Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[DT RAW]

Lonzo would make our problems in the half court more pronounced i think. He doesnt penetrate and in the half court he is reduced to a spot up shooter (assuming his 3 point shooting this year is not a fluke). If your ballhandlers are Ball and Simmons your half court offense will be miserable (unless they drastically improve).

yyyep

ball is the opposite type of guard that we need, he's another simmons with a more willing outside shot

[Kobblehead]

Agreed. Adding Lonzo to a team already devoid of guys that can score off the dribble would not be ideal. He would be an amazing defensive asset, though.

[ankle420breaker]

Three way scenario:

- Phi out - Embiid, Korkmaz, Scott
- Phi in - Beal, Jerome Robinson

- Washington out - Beal, Ish Smith, Jerome Robinson
- Washington in - CJ McCollum, Nurkic, Scott

Portland out - CJ McCollum, Nurkic
Portland in - Embiid, Korkmaz, Ish Smith



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[VDT]

Why would you trade Embiid for a worse player. Beal as your go to guy doesnt do anything.

Also i see no incentive for the Wizards to do that trade. Beal is better and younger than McCollum and they already have Bryant playing the 5.

[ankle420breaker]

Why would you trade Embiid for a worse player. Beal as your go to guy doesnt do anything.

Also i see no incentive for the Wizards to do that trade. Beal is better and younger than McCollum and they already have Bryant playing the 5.

Because I for one don't see Embiid aging well and am anticipating an inevitable trade request. The shelf life on his trade value could expire sooner than most are expecting and its in our best interest to diligently gauge the market for sell high opportunities.

Beal is a bona-fide flame thrower who's absolutely capable of shouldering an offensive load as a #1 option.

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[DT RAW]

I'll trade simmons for beal

not trading embiid for beal

[VDT]

Why would you trade Embiid for a worse player. Beal as your go to guy doesnt do anything.

Also i see no incentive for the Wizards to do that trade. Beal is better and younger than McCollum and they already have Bryant playing the 5.

Because I for one don't see Embiid aging well and am anticipating an inevitable trade request. The shelf life on his trade value could expire sooner than most are expecting and its in our best interest to diligently gauge the market for sell high opportunities.

Beal is a bona-fide flame thrower who's absolutely capable of shouldering an offensive load as a #1 option.

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A bonafide first option on a contender should be able to get his team to the playoffs in this conference. Half of the teams are straightup tanking or are perennially bad like the Knicks.

[Aussiepiston1]

Does anyone think Colin Sexton or Darius garland can be that PG we’re looking for ? Would Cleveland trade one of them along with nance, osman and exum for Harris and thybulle
They would have a pretty good team
Garland
Thybulle / 5th pick
Harris
Love
Drummond

We would have to trade Horford for a small forward, maybe the bulls trade us porter if we send a pick

Sexton
Richardson
Porter
Simmons
Embiid

[ProcessDoctor]

It doesn’t make sense to trade Embiid at this point. He’s our best shot at winning a championship, which is the point of this whole thing. If you trade him, you effectively bow out of contention until you land your next top-10 franchise player.

[ankle420breaker]

It doesn’t make sense to trade Embiid at this point. He’s our best shot at winning a championship, which is the point of this whole thing. If you trade him, you effectively bow out of contention until you land your next top-10 franchise player.

I agree, but things can change rapidly with Joel. I'm good with seeing how our offseason moves shake out and how Joel looks under a new system (and hopefully alongside new personnel).

That said, if we come out looking mediocre and Joel's body language & effort go south then it could be necessary to engage in trade opportunities as early as mid-season before he demands out and drops his value.

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[SparksFly87]

I disagree. I have watched Embiid the last 2 years since Jimmy was acquired turned into a chemistry killer who complained about touches all the way to this year complaining about teammates. He’s not a leader and has maturity issues. He feels entitled and weak minded .

Embiid forgot how to rim protect , he comes up short vs inferior bigs and has crappy play style and condition/ durability issues.


Trade his ass far west to golden state ...


I’ll take number 2 pick, timberwolves 2021 lottery pick, Wiggins and Pashall in a heartbeat.

If need be.
Flip Wiggins and lottery 2021 plus JRich for Beal , booker or Lavine

[Negrodamus]

Lonzo would make our problems in the half court more pronounced i think. He doesnt penetrate and in the half court he is reduced to a spot up shooter (assuming his 3 point shooting this year is not a fluke). If your ballhandlers are Ball and Simmons your half court offense will be miserable (unless they drastically improve).

I feel like some are having a visceral reaction to my Ball post. I’m not saying we trade Embiid or Simmons for him. Not even a first round pick. JRich is an adjacent value for him in my mind and provides a player with one of the best court vision in the league who also happens to play defense and is improving greatly as a shooter. The point of playing a Spurs type offense was to be able to move the ball around and not rely on one wing scorer. If we choose to not continue down that offensive route, then Ball (and Simmons to an extent) probably doesn’t make sense.

Yes, he has a crazy dad and has had a polarizing career thus far. I’m just evaluating him as a fit for our team.

[DT RAW]

the ship has sailed for us to get booker.. after their performance and his in the bubble, phoenix aint looking to trade him, certainly not for simmons.

Now add jamal murray to that list as well. We are running out of targets that better fit our team for simmons

lavine may be one of the few left out there that we could get with him

[youngcrev]

I think if you trade Ben Simmons for Zach LaVine, Joel Embiid will be asking out within the year.

[VDT]

Lonzo would make our problems in the half court more pronounced i think. He doesnt penetrate and in the half court he is reduced to a spot up shooter (assuming his 3 point shooting this year is not a fluke). If your ballhandlers are Ball and Simmons your half court offense will be miserable (unless they drastically improve).

I feel like some are having a visceral reaction to my Ball post. I’m not saying we trade Embiid or Simmons for him. Not even a first round pick. JRich is an adjacent value for him in my mind and provides a player with one of the best court vision in the league who also happens to play defense and is improving greatly as a shooter. The point of playing a Spurs type offense was to be able to move the ball around and not rely on one wing scorer. If we choose to not continue down that offensive route, then Ball (and Simmons to an extent) probably doesn’t make sense.

Yes, he has a crazy dad and has had a polarizing career thus far. I’m just evaluating him as a fit for our team.

I think that's how Brown originally wanted to play but i am not sure this roster can play like that and the consistantly high number of turnovers in the previous years are pointing to that direction. Simmons has the passing and basketball IQ but his shooting issues are not ideal. Embiid is more of an iso scorer with an ok passing ability and i am not sure how he can fit in a pass heavy system. The team also lacks any player to collapse the defense (other than Embiid). Passing the ball at the 3 point line doesnt do anything, you need someone that can unbalance the defense.

[DT RAW]

I think if you trade Ben Simmons for Zach LaVine, Joel Embiid will be asking out within the year.

I mean, we would get more back than that

I think Joel would be happy to have a lane to himself again

[ProcessDoctor]

One reason I’m against trading Simmons is because when Joel breaks down/leaves, Ben is going to be key in attracting free agents.

His friend group just happens to consist of players who fit very well around him. DLO is a free agent in 2023. KAT and Booker are both free agents in 2024. I know, it feels very far away, but players plan these things out. Simmons will be our only player under contract through 2024-25. If we want to have somewhat of a chance after Joel, we need to hang onto Simmons.

[76ciology]

Premise:
- Bulls and Wizards are not trading Lavine or Beal for Ben.
- Pointing out why trading Biid is better if you have to trade one of them due to better returns.

Nets
Ben Simmons
Al Horford

Kyrie
Joe Harris
KD
Ben
Al Horford

Kyrie and KD creating on halfcourt. Super lethal transition scoring. Elite wing defense playing like Celtics style defense.

Sixers
Caris Levert
Spencer Dinwiddie
DeAndre Jordan
Taureen Prince

Dinwiddie/Shake
Levert/Kork
Josh Richardson/Thybulle/Taureen Prince
Tobias Harris/Mike Scott
Embiid/DeAndre Jordan

Steady diet of perimeter scoring with DeAndre Jordan as a reliable back-up is the formula for an energetic and long career of Embiid.

Dinwiddie and Levert can create on offense.
Josh Rich and Tobi can run some PnR.
That’s around 75pts combined with the 4 of them.

Josh Rich played good D against the Celts. I think he can play some SF. If it proves too challenging, we have Thybulle.

[stormi]

yikes

[Kobblehead]

Beal is a bona-fide flame thrower who's absolutely capable of shouldering an offensive load as a #1 option.

I'm going to disagree with this.

I think Bradley Beal's ability to score off the dribble is questionable, at best.

I do not think he's a good halfcourt ball handler. Feel the same way about Devin Booker.