ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:DCasey91 wrote:ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
I agree with this as well. I don't know why Tobias catches the flack he does on here. He is what he is, but he's far from the problem right now. He's not the answer either, but he's not a detriment to this team nor is a player I want to see traded. I like him for what he does.
How do posters not see the glaringly obvious here. Harris has and always been the biggest problem since day dot. The contract kills any slim chance of winning. Not a second option and not near enough on dynamics to be a third.
We just saw once he came back went back to being a ball stopper once again. Dude is kind of a selfish player when you watch him close enough. He’s like the Doc Rivers of scoring lol. Everything has to go right or it becomes shakey. I’ve never seen anyone score 28 and have literally no bearing on the outcome of a game.
Dude would go top 3 in the league if you want a tank commander. Durable, scores 20 on 15+ shots doesn’t get to the line with no real winning impact. Perfect
I'm not one to throw a bunch of stats at someone to support an argument/ideology, but I will say this. I don't think it's Harris's fault that he is paid as much as he is. I think the fact that he gets paid like a superstar is why everyone seems to be so hard on him. Thing is Ben is on a max contract as well and there are people out there still defending him for his abysmal performance in the playoffs last year. Harris was brought here to be a scorer and he's done exactly that. He was brought here to play power forward next to Embiid and he was extended in the hope that he would continue to evolve and develop his game. Things don't always go as planned, but I still don't see the complaint with Harris. He's been extremely durable, he's been a consistent scorer for us which is what we've asked him to be, he's been a total team player the whole time he's been here, he's humble, he's got good character, he's not once been a distraction to this team. I simply don't see what the problem is here. This year he's being asked to be the second option for us and I disagree with that as a fan of this team. I think that role should go to Maxey despite him being so young.
Tobias Harris isn't a player that can take over a game when it matters the most. He isn't a closer, and he's never been a clutch player late in the game. Those are legitimate complaints about him that I have. He also gets his shot blocked a lot and he's ghosted at times when we've really needed him. All of that is true about Tobias Harris. I do agree that when things break down he falls apart, but again...If you're looking at Tobias Harris in terms of what he is and not how he's paid, then you really can't complain about it. He's a third option on a contending team. A supporting player so to speak, one that can score, one that can get his early in the game where a tone can be set or where we can jump out to a big lead. Tobias has and never will be a superstar player in this league and people need to stop expecting that from him.
Some of what you said I agree with and some really makes no sense at all....If he scores 28 in a game that we have a chance at winning then he's had a positive impact on that game for us. If he scores 20 points on fifteen shots that's pretty decent efficiency if you ask me. I mean, if he doesn't get to the line and scores 20 points on 15 shots, then that's a 9/10-15 clip he's doing it at. Sorry, but what exactly is wrong with that type of percentage? It's above 50% for Christ sake!
There are those that suggest that we are in fact a better team without him. I think in a regular season game that is pretty much meaningless at times where players are just going through the motions of playing the game, comments like that can ring some truth to them. However, in a playoff setting, when the games matter the most, I feel like we have a much better chance of winning with him then we would without him. In my opinion an NBA roster is only as good as it is in a playoff setting. During a long regular season, people seem to forget what it actually takes to win in the postseason. You need scoring, you need to hit open shots, and you need a lead guard that can win one v one situations, operate in the PnR, and score off the dribble. Tobias Harris can score and hit open shots. The problem isn't Tobias Harris, the problem is that we don't have a lead guard that can do all the things I just listed. If we had that type of guard on this roster, there would be no complaints about Harris at all. Again, it's not about what Tobias does or doesn't do for us. We paid him, we chose to keep him. No! It's about what we as a team don't have and right now, it's a lead guard that can take the pressure off of both Embiid and Harris. We know what Tobias IS, we know what he isn't. We also know what we need and what we don't have on this roster.
