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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1181 » by Murray_17 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:49 pm

76ciology wrote:Maybe OKC trades Topic and Ousmaine for Trey Murphy or Herbert Jones for the much coveted back to back championships?


Why would they?

At this point the priority is build on the young prospects they have so they can move on from the players that are not a part of their big 3.

They have so many picks they can basically draft in accord to their necessities while keeping their core for years.

Trading for Jones or Murphy is idiotic and it would mess up their future cap
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1182 » by mjkvol » Sun Jun 1, 2025 6:09 pm

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76ciology wrote:Maybe OKC trades Topic and Ousmaine for Trey Murphy or Herbert Jones for the much coveted back to back championships?


Why would they?

At this point the priority is build on the young prospects they have so they can move on from the players that are not a part of their big 3.

They have so many picks they can basically draft in accord to their necessities while keeping their core for years.

Trading for Jones or Murphy is idiotic and it would mess up their future cap


Totally agree with this. To me, it would be management malpractice for OKC, and even SA and HOU to make moves for win now players instead of developing the youth they have and maintaining the ability to restock and replace players due to get expensive in the draft ever year.

But the people running those teams have gotten them to this point through patience, long term thinking, and smart, prudent management, and are highly unlikely to flush it all and push the timeline. We see, with few exceptions, what results in that kind of impulsive thinking.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1183 » by youngcrev » Sun Jun 1, 2025 7:06 pm

We'd still probably be doomed if we had Haliburton. He'd be hitting his stride just in time for Embiid's knee to fail on him. :banghead:

Not guaranteed he gets the rope to develop the way he has here either.

Supposedly it wasn't on the table anyway. Not sure if I'm choosing to believe that for my own sanity, to give Morey the benefit of the doubt, or because it was Pompey being the only one to report it being discussed.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1184 » by youngcrev » Sun Jun 1, 2025 7:08 pm

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Now maybe they’ll take a broken down choker in return!

Also no Jane Doe. Her name is Moriah Mills.


Nope. Mills is also considering a suit supposedly though.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1185 » by the_process » Sun Jun 1, 2025 11:02 pm

Evil Twin wrote:Anybody remember when Haliburton said he was told he was traded from the Kings to the ‘ers? Getting Harden for Simmons (+++) seemed sort of a reasonable move at the time, but there was considerable chat about going after the young pg with MORE coming our way throughout Ben’s holdout.


Yes, Hali said his agent told him he was going to Philly.

It's whatever now. Morey had to have his white whale, and then he got swallowed like Jonah.

I just sincerely hope this franchise is not in any way still in on Jo. Dude is toast and all moves have to start from that premise.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1186 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:17 am

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Post#1188 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:30 am

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Maybe the goal is to play small even against bigger teams. Team construction has shifted.. or at least added a new dimension.. from every position needing to play like a guard, to finding guards or finding ways for guards to play bigger than their size and versatile enough to match up against non-guards.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1189 » by MVP1992 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:20 am

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Post#1190 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:27 am

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Maybe the goal is to play small even against bigger teams. Team construction has shifted.. or at least added a new dimension.. from every position needing to play like a guard, to finding guards or finding ways for guards to play bigger than their size and versatile enough to match up against non-guards.



So short and thin, makes you grin... OKC

Short and fat...don't do that 76ers


:lol:

But maybe it’s Embiid’s fault!
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1191 » by MVP1992 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:42 am

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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1192 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:45 am

MVP1992 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:

So short and thin, makes you grin... OKC

Short and fat...don't do that 76ers


:lol:

But maybe it’s Embiid’s fault!



Pretty sure Yabusele and Lowry's girth to length/height ratio will skew any graph :o


Oh yeah.. I forgot those two
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1193 » by M2J » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:53 am

Up-And-Coming 4585 postsJun 1, 2025 8:20 PM

This sounds like Masai going after his long reported target Joel Embiid to me. Daryl Morey and the Sixers management may be at the point of just rebuilding and trying to shed long-term salary. I won't be surprised if this happens as Embiid's price tag is also at it's lowest and may not get much higher.

RJ Barrett (24)
Jakob Poeltl (only 1 more guaranteed year and a player option after)
Agbaji (24)

..And perhaps a 1st (protected?) if need be. That's a lot less guaranteed long-term money and 2 additional pieces in the same age range as Maxey (24). Not a huge asset haul but it satisfies some rebuilding goals and works in the trade machine.

Quickley
Dick
Ingram
Barnes
Embiid

Is a pretty solid starting lineup as well.


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Bk68 150 postsJun 2, 2025 12:13 AM
It is.
But who you got backing up Embid?



Saw this in the comments on the wire regarding Toronto being aggressive this summer for a star.

Morey would not do it, but....I always forget that there's a sucker everyday
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1194 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 2, 2025 8:04 am

M2J wrote:
Up-And-Coming 4585 postsJun 1, 2025 8:20 PM

This sounds like Masai going after his long reported target Joel Embiid to me. Daryl Morey and the Sixers management may be at the point of just rebuilding and trying to shed long-term salary. I won't be surprised if this happens as Embiid's price tag is also at it's lowest and may not get much higher.

RJ Barrett (24)
Jakob Poeltl (only 1 more guaranteed year and a player option after)
Agbaji (24)

..And perhaps a 1st (protected?) if need be. That's a lot less guaranteed long-term money and 2 additional pieces in the same age range as Maxey (24). Not a huge asset haul but it satisfies some rebuilding goals and works in the trade machine.

Quickley
Dick
Ingram
Barnes
Embiid

Is a pretty solid starting lineup as well.


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Bk68 150 postsJun 2, 2025 12:13 AM
It is.
But who you got backing up Embid?



Saw this in the comments on the wire regarding Toronto being aggressive this summer for a star.

Morey would not do it, but....I always forget that there's a sucker everyday


I’d also take that chance if im Raptors. Specially after the bias that built up their psyche when they took that risk with Kawhi and it paid off for them.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1195 » by M2J » Mon Jun 2, 2025 8:11 am

76ciology wrote:
M2J wrote:
Up-And-Coming 4585 postsJun 1, 2025 8:20 PM

This sounds like Masai going after his long reported target Joel Embiid to me. Daryl Morey and the Sixers management may be at the point of just rebuilding and trying to shed long-term salary. I won't be surprised if this happens as Embiid's price tag is also at it's lowest and may not get much higher.

RJ Barrett (24)
Jakob Poeltl (only 1 more guaranteed year and a player option after)
Agbaji (24)

..And perhaps a 1st (protected?) if need be. That's a lot less guaranteed long-term money and 2 additional pieces in the same age range as Maxey (24). Not a huge asset haul but it satisfies some rebuilding goals and works in the trade machine.

Quickley
Dick
Ingram
Barnes
Embiid

Is a pretty solid starting lineup as well.


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Bk68 150 postsJun 2, 2025 12:13 AM
It is.
But who you got backing up Embid?



Saw this in the comments on the wire regarding Toronto being aggressive this summer for a star.

Morey would not do it, but....I always forget that there's a sucker everyday


I’d also take that chance if im Raptors. Specially after the bias that built up their psyche when they took that risk with Kawhi and it paid off for them.



I agree and I think a few teams would. Fact is the news out there the whole season was that Joel didn't need surgery and it was a pain management issue that he didn't play through, but when he did play in like 20 games... Averaged 24 , 8 and 4.5. Some desperate team would try it. Now a repeat this season changes that narrative
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1196 » by the_process » Mon Jun 2, 2025 12:16 pm

M2J wrote:
76ciology wrote:
M2J wrote:

Saw this in the comments on the wire regarding Toronto being aggressive this summer for a star.

Morey would not do it, but....I always forget that there's a sucker everyday


I’d also take that chance if im Raptors. Specially after the bias that built up their psyche when they took that risk with Kawhi and it paid off for them.



I agree and I think a few teams would. Fact is the news out there the whole season was that Joel didn't need surgery and it was a pain management issue that he didn't play through, but when he did play in like 20 games... Averaged 24 , 8 and 4.5. Some desperate team would try it. Now a repeat this season changes that narrative


Gotta strike while the iron is hot! Even if you take back some mediocre players.

Oubre and 3 to HOU
Barrett, Poeltl, Jabari, 9, and top 10 protected 2026 TOR 1st (10-7-4-two 2nds) to PHI
Embiid and 10 to TOR
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1197 » by Murray_17 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 2:36 pm

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I don't think this is going to be a so much used coverage unless the Pacers actually bother OKC on defense.

OKC system doesn't relly on single coverage too much and I don't think they need to adapt until they actually see issues with their normal system.

But, even if it happen, it's going to be dependent on how many 3s Turner can hit. If he's doing so at a decent clip, then the Pacers can bring Hartenstein to the 3-point line, so the paint is open or you can switch him on Hali. By that point, Dort covering Haliburton doesn't matter as long as he can drive or get a switch.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1198 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 3:01 pm

I’ll be very interested in the matchup game this series. Chet will probably guard Siakim for stretches which will be interesting to watch. Dort on Hali is one obviously important since screen navigation can help short circuit Indiana’s game plan. Nembhard won’t have Brunson to attack anymore so think he’s in for a tough series.

I think Turner is gonna be in hell because OKC denies passing lane hard when the opposing center has the ball. It’ll force him into being more of a decision maker and I don’t think he’ll like that very much.

I just have so much respect for this OKC defense and I’m having a really hard time identifying the advantage Indiana can exploit. Maybe some hot shooting from the bigs but OKC has counters for that.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1199 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:39 pm

I wonder what Raps will offer for Giannis. They have lots of young players.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1200 » by Iverson Armband » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:12 pm

76ciology wrote:I wonder what Raps will offer for Giannis. They have lots of young players.

That aren’t good lol
always a jump shot away.

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