Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1

[SixthStreet]

We've lost series' to other teams, but the Celtics really were our kryptonite. They look to either be done or taking a gap year next year now from Tatum's injury and luxury tax position.

If Embiid can be some form of impactful player, the Cavs don't worry me in a playoff series and everyone else is mid that can go on a run for a couple series. The best coach, Spoelstra, is not fielding a competitive team. All the teams can can likely trade for Giannis are out west. The East is there for our taking, just please let us get one year of some kind of normie Embiid.

[the_process]

How do we not have any 1st rounders in 2026 and 2027? Isn’t there a rule against trading away 1st round picks in consecutive years?

From what I understand, 2026 goes to OKC, and either 2027 or 2028 goes to the Nets. So does that mean if we end up conveying our 2026 pick to OKC, then the pick to Brooklyn gets pushed to 2028 (top 8 protected), allowing us to keep our 2027 pick? That would make more sense and keep us compliant with the Stepien Rule.

Yes.

[the_process]

We've lost series' to other teams, but the Celtics really were our kryptonite. They look to either be done or taking a gap year next year now from Tatum's injury and luxury tax position.

If Embiid can be some form of impactful player, the Cavs don't worry me in a playoff series and everyone else is mid that can go on a run for a couple series. The best coach, Spoelstra, is not fielding a competitive team. All the teams can can likely trade for Giannis are out west. The East is there for our taking, just please let us get one year of some kind of normie Embiid.

You are hoping against hope there.

[Murray_17]

Just keep the pick and build on the young talent we have.

People who want to trade for Giannis are crazy, Outside of this pick we don't have enough and if we move Maxe/McCain and stuff, Giannis would be playing with barely moving Joel and cooked PG.

If you think he wants to come here or that it's a win move, you're deluding yourself.

[youngcrev]

Just keep the pick and build on the young talent we have.

People who want to trade for Giannis are crazy, Outside of this pick we don't have enough and if we move Maxe/McCain and stuff, Giannis would be playing with barely moving Joel and cooked PG.

If you think he wants to come here or that it's a win move, you're deluding yourself.

I don't really think Giannis is worth discussing mostly just because a) they'd get outbid, and b) he probably wouldn't want to be here unless he had some crazy faith in Embiid returning to form.

That said... For those that do want to discuss Giannis... I do think you go for the MVP talent in his prime if it's available to you and he's open to it. Not even sure what a trade package would look like. Maxey, #3, picks? PG, McCain, #3, picks?

[M2J]

How do we not have any 1st rounders in 2026 and 2027? Isn’t there a rule against trading away 1st round picks in consecutive years?

From what I understand, 2026 goes to OKC, and either 2027 or 2028 goes to the Nets. So does that mean if we end up conveying our 2026 pick to OKC, then the pick to Brooklyn gets pushed to 2028 (top 8 protected), allowing us to keep our 2027 pick? That would make more sense and keep us compliant with the Stepien Rule.

Because they didn't initially trade consecutive picks, which would be against the rule. They traded 2025 to OKC and 2027 to Brooklyn... The 2025 top 6 protection allows for them to transfer it to 2026.

They lucked out with keeping this pick and because it worked out Daryl has done a good job of creating a significant amount of young assets to build on while still hoping to salvage the Joel years. I am someone who doesn't think Joel can't be traded if he can stay on the floor and put up 25ppg

[76ciology]

Giannis publicly opened the door to playing for other teams the night before the lottery, perfect timing, especially with the Mavs and Spurs already eyeing him. If the Mavs hesitate to trade Flagg for Giannis, the Spurs could swoop in and offer the Bucks a king’s ransom.

But if neither team gives Milwaukee what they want, the Mavs might convince themselves that Flagg is a marketable, long-term cornerstone. The Spurs could buy into Harper and the vision of a decade long contender built around him and Wemby.

That’s where the Sixers could come in. They could offer the No. 3 pick, a proven player to match salary and keep the Bucks competitive (since Milwaukee doesn’t control their own picks), plus additional draft capital. It might be the best deal the Bucks get.

[mjkvol]

Giannis publicly opened the door to playing for other teams the night before the lottery, perfect timing, especially with the Mavs and Spurs already eyeing him. If the Mavs hesitate to trade Flagg for Giannis, the Spurs could swoop in and offer the Bucks a king’s ransom.

But if neither team gives Milwaukee what they want, the Mavs might convince themselves that Flagg is a marketable, long-term cornerstone. The Spurs could buy into Harper and the vision of a decade long contender built around him and Wemby.

That’s where the Sixers could come in. They could offer the No. 3 pick, a proven player to match salary and keep the Bucks competitive (since Milwaukee doesn’t control their own picks), plus additional draft capital. It might be the best deal the Bucks get.

I just can't go for any plan that includes the fantasy that we will ever see Embiid as a major contributor to a serious contender again. We're going to empty the cupboard and count on this current roster plus Giannis, probably minus McCain, and with no draft capital moving forward, to compete for championships?

Why not stop the charade and continue what Morey started once he recovered from the insanity of getting us into this mess with George and Embiid? Pick kids at #3 and #35, or better yet get #6 and #18 from WAS if they fall in love with a player, and spend 2025-26 really seeing what we have while actively trying to move George, Gordon, Drummond, and Oubre before the deadline.

That is how it's going to be done by successful franchises in the new NBA - building something lasting beyond only next season instead of applying band aids to a huge gash by remaining top heavy with older players. It's way past the point we got with the times.

[Mik317]

this is a dumb ass statement on its own but

we need to stop trying to win.

now let me explain lol.

The reality is that next season even with a weakened east (as far as we know rn), we will not contend for a chip. Biid has to come back from an injury that he couldn't last year...another year older and even if by some grace of god he does...his history says he won't stay healthy. On a team that even when "healthy" didn't win...with the main addition being a rookie more than likely. Nah. IMO the goal for next year is to right the ship, find out what works and what doesn't and THEN make moves to improve. The days of chasing some imaginary window is gone. Its over.

as for Giannis. One he hasn't been the scion of health himself; hasn't made it out of the first round in ages, relies heavily on his athleticism still and IF he asks out...I don't think we are high on his list (also don't think he even likes Biid IIRC). Its a pipe dream imo.

[Arsenal]

I'm pretty sure that seeing the carnage in the Eastern Conference, Morey will decide to take one more shot at contending next year.

Cleveland - fraudulent 64-win team getting dominated and bounced by a good but not great Pacers team
Boston - Tatum out for next year and needing to dump massive salary, they're finished as a contender
Milwaukee - Lillard out for next year and Giannis wants out, so finished as a contender

The only real threats next year in the east will be the Knicks, Cavs, and Pacers, none of which scare anyone compared to past contenders.

[mjkvol]

this is a dumb ass statement on its own but

we need to stop trying to win.

Even on its own that isn't a dumb ass statement. It succinctly reads between the lines for anyone paying attention.

[mjkvol]

I'm pretty sure that seeing the carnage in the Eastern Conference, Morey will decide to take one more shot at contending next year.

Cleveland - fraudulent 64-win team getting dominated and bounced by a good but not great Pacers team
Boston - Tatum out for next year and needing to dump massive salary, they're finished as a contender
Milwaukee - Lillard out for next year and Giannis wants out, so finished as a contender

The only real threats next year in the east will be the Knicks, Cavs, and Pacers, none of which scare anyone compared to past contenders.

The problem is that all three are still better and more equipped to seriously compete than we would be with any iteration relying on George and Embiid to be major contributors. Even when healthy, which is a bigger stretch than ever, when has either guy shown out in a playoff setting to the degree that anyone should have a shred of belief that it might actually happen now?

It's over. Period. Morey seemingly has finally accepted that, and it's time the fan base did as well.

[Stanford]

Don't want Giannis, he stinks

[the_process]

I'm pretty sure that seeing the carnage in the Eastern Conference, Morey will decide to take one more shot at contending next year.

Cleveland - fraudulent 64-win team getting dominated and bounced by a good but not great Pacers team
Boston - Tatum out for next year and needing to dump massive salary, they're finished as a contender
Milwaukee - Lillard out for next year and Giannis wants out, so finished as a contender

The only real threats next year in the east will be the Knicks, Cavs, and Pacers, none of which scare anyone compared to past contenders.

The problem is that all three are still better and more equipped to seriously compete than we would be with any iteration relying on George and Embiid to be major contributors. Even when healthy, which is a bigger stretch than ever, when has either guy shown out in a playoff setting to the degree that anyone should have a shred of belief that it might actually happen now?

It's over. Period. Morey seemingly has finally accepted that, and it's time the fan base did as well.

The first part of that is questionable, but hopeful. The second part is straight fact.

[the_process]

Giannis publicly opened the door to playing for other teams the night before the lottery, perfect timing, especially with the Mavs and Spurs already eyeing him. If the Mavs hesitate to trade Flagg for Giannis, the Spurs could swoop in and offer the Bucks a king’s ransom.

But if neither team gives Milwaukee what they want, the Mavs might convince themselves that Flagg is a marketable, long-term cornerstone. The Spurs could buy into Harper and the vision of a decade long contender built around him and Wemby.

That’s where the Sixers could come in. They could offer the No. 3 pick, a proven player to match salary and keep the Bucks competitive (since Milwaukee doesn’t control their own picks), plus additional draft capital. It might be the best deal the Bucks get.

If it's not Embiid and 3, and only Embiid and 3, then no interest in Giannis.

[Mik317]

why would Giannis want to come here? If not to play WITH Embiid?

[ivysixer2000]

why would Giannis want to come here? If not to play WITH Embiid?

Giannis still cant shoot. I just couldn't do it, but I guess we can continue to talk about it.

I can't see wasting a #3 on him or #2 for the Spurs, but its entertainment I guess.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Don't want Giannis, he stinks

What????

[Stanford]

Don't want Giannis, he stinks

What????

He's not him, sorry! Only interested in hims.

[the_process]

why would Giannis want to come here? If not to play WITH Embiid?

Speaking strictly theoretically.

Embiid sits his ass on the bench occasionally. He's not playing with Giannis regardless.

Why would Giannis come here? No reason. Not factoring that in.

I also fully admit MIL would almost certainly not take that offer.