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Re: If it wasn't clear before, it's clear as day now 

Post#121 » by Grifin32 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:59 am

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Westbrook36 wrote:You are a Sixers fan, you should not be making parallels that make your own team look bad.

But while you are here, say something bad about the Heat. It will bring a smile to my face.


My point is you can make that post about every team in the league. It's a worthless post and a worthless point.


It wasn't a point per se. It was just a way to laugh at the Heat for every loss and misfortune. If Lebron so much as misses a dunk tonight, then I'm going to laugh at him for it.


So how's your Sixers doing? :lol:
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Re: If it wasn't clear before, it's clear as day now 

Post#122 » by doctordrizzay » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:33 am

Lol Miami has won 6 straight against you guys since the start of the season....Its clear as day heat just dominate the sixers like no ones business
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Re: If it wasn't clear before, it's clear as day now 

Post#123 » by arsenic » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:08 am

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Post#124 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:33 am

The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.

So after the first 3 games of the series you can even say it's clearer than before the topic was made if you look at it objectively and realistically. The only reason the Heat are up in this series is Iguodala/Lou Williams' injuries and the refs and their screw jobs. Doug Collins might be the classiest guy in the game, and when he's whining about the refs you know something is up.

So I think I can officially say point validated at the moment.
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Post#125 » by Uptown Report » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:59 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.

So after the first 3 games of the series you can even say it's clearer than before the topic was made if you look at it objectively and realistically. The only reason the Heat are up in this series is Iguodala/Lou Williams' injuries and the refs and their screw jobs. Doug Collins might be the classiest guy in the game, and when he's whining about the refs you know something is up.

So I think I can officially say point validated at the moment.


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Post#126 » by Uptown Report » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:04 pm

So in your little world Westbrook, Indiana is "technically" up 3-0 on the Bulls, and the Knicks are "technically" up 2-0 on the Celtics. Hornets up 2-0 on the Lakers.
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Post#127 » by Sixerlover » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:59 pm

No technicalities, we're down 3-0. On the verge of sweeps week. This was a bad matchip from the get go.
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Post#128 » by Tommy Gun » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:32 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.


The next game is huge then. If Philly pulls off another amazing "technical" win, Miami is definitely on the ropes in the "technical" series. Should be interesting
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Post#129 » by steveb21 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:10 pm

The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.


You can't blame injuries and everyone knows how slanted the refs are calling this series. This is why it was critical to get the 6th seed and avoid this match up. It's the worst possible scenario. Had we not faltered down the stretch we could be playing Boston. Who knows if things would be different then...
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Post#130 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:41 pm

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Westbrook36 wrote:The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.


The next game is huge then. If Philly pulls off another amazing "technical" win, Miami is definitely on the ropes in the "technical" series. Should be interesting


The thing about the Sixers is I really don't care if they win or not. I want Miami to lose more than I want the Sixers to win. So taking shots at the Sixers doesn't really bother me. They are a mediocre team and have been for about a decade.

But the all powerful Miami Heat are struggling to beat the Sixers in 2 of the 3 games. A mediocre Sixers team when 100% healthy, that has 2 of their best players playing injured. Yet the Heat still need to scratch and claw their way out of 10-15 pt deficits in 2 of the 3 games and scrape by for a win. That is not championship caliber. Not even close. It's kind of pathetic actually.

The only thing that matters to me is that my opinion of the Heat was validated. I never said the Sixers were anything special because they aren't. The Heat just aren't either, and I've been consistent with that since day one. In fact, I said the Heat are the only team the Sixers would beat in a series if healthy out of the top 5 seeds. Shame they aren't healthy. Because if they were they'd be up 2-1 right now and on their way to get absolutely annihilated in the 2nd round.
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Post#131 » by 51X3RF4N » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:44 pm

Wow..Westbrook you used to make a lot of sense when you posted. But this thread is making me sad to be a Sixers fan knowing that other people read this and base their opinions of Sixers fans on what you have said.

You could not possibly have been more wrong about this matchup or the games themselves. The star power is what wins in the playoffs and Miami is proving it. You can't blame the refs because they is a known factor and one that you should have known going into the matchup. They have 3 stars, they will get the calls. End of story.
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Post#132 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:13 pm

Just because something is accepted doesn't make it right. Match-ups are team against team. The refs have nothing to do with how they match up on the floor. With the injuries and with the calls, Miami has barely beat us in 2 of the 3 games, and we are mediocre. How is that not matching up well?

When 2 of the 3 games could have gone either way that is a book definition of a good match-up.

Btw, another thing I was on the mark about. I said Brand and Holiday would be are 2 best players this series because Miami can't match up with them. Who have been our 2 best players? Brand and Holiday.
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Post#133 » by Sixerlover » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:15 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:
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Westbrook36 wrote:The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.


The next game is huge then. If Philly pulls off another amazing "technical" win, Miami is definitely on the ropes in the "technical" series. Should be interesting


But the all powerful Miami Heat are struggling to beat the Sixers in 2 of the 3 games. A mediocre Sixers team when 100% healthy, that has 2 of their best players playing injured. Yet the Heat still need to scratch and claw their way out of 10-15 pt deficits in 2 of the 3 games and scrape by for a win. That is not championship caliber. Not even close. It's kind of pathetic actually.

The only thing that matters to me is that my opinion of the Heat was validated. I never said the Sixers were anything special because they aren't. The Heat just aren't either, and I've been consistent with that since day one. In fact, I said the Heat are the only team the Sixers would beat in a series if healthy out of the top 5 seeds. Shame they aren't healthy. Because if they were they'd be up 2-1 right now and on their way to get absolutely annihilated in the 2nd round.

But I remember you saying "a win is a win" when talking about Bulls v Heat in the regular season. AND the Bulls are struggling with a worse Indiana team much more than the Heat are struggling with us. And don't get me started on the Celtics.

The Heat have seemed to have the easiest series in the East so far, as much as I hate to say it as a diehard Sixers fan
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Post#134 » by Avirex357 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:20 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:
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Westbrook36 wrote:The Sixers are technically up 2-1 in this series if you factor in the injuries and the referees completely screwing the Sixers.


The next game is huge then. If Philly pulls off another amazing "technical" win, Miami is definitely on the ropes in the "technical" series. Should be interesting


The thing about the Sixers is I really don't care if they win or not. I want Miami to lose more than I want the Sixers to win. So taking shots at the Sixers doesn't really bother me. They are a mediocre team and have been for about a decade.

But the all powerful Miami Heat are struggling to beat the Sixers in 2 of the 3 games. A mediocre Sixers team when 100% healthy, that has 2 of their best players playing injured. Yet the Heat still need to scratch and claw their way out of 10-15 pt deficits in 2 of the 3 games and scrape by for a win. That is not championship caliber. Not even close. It's kind of pathetic actually.

The only thing that matters to me is that my opinion of the Heat was validated. I never said the Sixers were anything special because they aren't. The Heat just aren't either, and I've been consistent with that since day one. In fact, I said the Heat are the only team the Sixers would beat in a series if healthy out of the top 5 seeds. Shame they aren't healthy. Because if they were they'd be up 2-1 right now and on their way to get absolutely annihilated in the 2nd round.



I don't think this has proven that Miami is a mediocre team at all just that they fall asleep at the wheel a lot when they aren't challenged or don't quite want to give the other team any credit or put forth a concerted effort. This can easily be shown by getting punched in the mouth early in Game 1 but then they recognized it and made sure to step on their throat in game 2. Game 3 was what I expected as you guys came out swinging but we weathered the storm. Same thing bulls are dealing with in Indy and Boston with New York. This is the playoffs, no team is just lying down. The only blowouts i've seen were game 2 of this series, game 1 of the hawks series, and game 2 of the nuggets series. Thats 3 TOTAL games out of over 20 games where the other team had no shot in it at the end.

As for the mediocreness, what game's have you been watching? the ones from the beginning/middle of the season? or the ones where everyone started getting their ish together and started building that strong confidence over the last 25 games of the season/playoffs where they started really learning their proper roles and playing with that intensity? The heat's problem I think is that they just don't give a crap yet as they haven't been put in a do or die situation, and that's something that can only be learned in the playoffs. No regular season beatdown was going to really get them going, although you can see the games they did want (Boston april 13th) they exerted their will. My only hope is that they can let the killer instinct that they showed for parts in games 1/3 and for all of game 2 in EVERY game. I can assure you, no one wants to see them when they are firing on all cylinders.

But hey, I hate the knicks blindly so who am I to talk :wink:
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Post#135 » by Kobblehead » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:21 pm

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Post#136 » by 51X3RF4N » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:31 pm

Yea so you don't care if the Sixers win? Nice fandom there.

And to be honest, 2 of the 3 games could not have gone either way. After Miami weathered the Sixers first storms in each game, they took firm control of the game and won easily. Just because the final score might have been close (within 15 pts), doesn't mean Miami didn't HANDLE the Sixers easily. They did, in all 3 games.

The score doesn't always show it, but Miami has been dominant. You can see it in their faces, they know they will win and they don't even seem to be breaking a sweat. Anybody could have called the fact that Brand and Jrue would be the top performers in the playoffs. Brand is the most VET starter and has been playing well all year, Iggy has struggled and is playing hurt, and Jrue has been consistent all year as well. Not too bold of a prediction there.
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Post#137 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:52 pm

Listen to the cliches

"you can see it in their faces" what is this, Poker? Their faces show nothing and unless you are at the game with binoculars zooming in on their faces you only see their faces for short seconds anyway.

Miami has not been dominant. You can't dominate and trail by 15 in one game and 12 in another. That is not dominating. If you want your own definition of it then fine, but I go by the book definition. Miami did not take full control of game 1 or 2 either. The Sixers were within 1 and 4 points in the last minute or two of each game. That's "firm control" then what the hell was game 2?
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Post#138 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:05 pm

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I don't think this has proven that Miami is a mediocre team at all just that they fall asleep at the wheel a lot when they aren't challenged or don't quite want to give the other team any credit or put forth a concerted effort. This can easily be shown by getting punched in the mouth early in Game 1 but then they recognized it and made sure to step on their throat in game 2. Game 3 was what I expected as you guys came out swinging but we weathered the storm. Same thing bulls are dealing with in Indy and Boston with New York. This is the playoffs, no team is just lying down. The only blowouts i've seen were game 2 of this series, game 1 of the hawks series, and game 2 of the nuggets series. Thats 3 TOTAL games out of over 20 games where the other team had no shot in it at the end.

As for the mediocreness, what game's have you been watching? the ones from the beginning/middle of the season? or the ones where everyone started getting their ish together and started building that strong confidence over the last 25 games of the season/playoffs where they started really learning their proper roles and playing with that intensity? The heat's problem I think is that they just don't give a crap yet as they haven't been put in a do or die situation, and that's something that can only be learned in the playoffs. No regular season beatdown was going to really get them going, although you can see the games they did want (Boston april 13th) they exerted their will. My only hope is that they can let the killer instinct that they showed for parts in games 1/3 and for all of game 2 in EVERY game. I can assure you, no one wants to see them when they are firing on all cylinders.

But hey, I hate the knicks blindly so who am I to talk :wink:


Who wants to see any team when they are firing on all cylinders, though? The thing about the Heat is they never fire on all cylinders. They aren't a hungry or driven team and they have zero killer instinct. The Sixers are very very mediocre and there is not even one person you could call a star on the roster let alone a superstar. But the Sixers had them up against the ropes in 2 games with a battered roster that was not even playing well to boot.

If they truly wanted to just take control of the game they would have pulled away and not let the Sixers hang around. The Sixers hung around. They probably would have in game 2, but they shot 25% from the field. The Heat have done this all season though. It's not some fluky trend, it is who they are. They have to climb out of big holes and they let teams hang around. That's not killer instinct to me. If Kobe was on that team, the Sixers would have been blown up. But when you have a loser like Lebron instead of a winner like Kobe, that will happen.
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Post#139 » by tk76 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:19 pm

I don't think we can continue having a thread dedicated with other team's fans arguing with 1 Sixer fan. So I will lock this. Consider this a warning that further user flame bating will result in appropriate action.

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