Markelle Fultz VIII: The Aftermath

[Eyeamok]

Actually the most “normal” I’ve seen Markelle in a press conference. Almost seemed like a normal kid...

But with that said, still no accountability on his part. Sounds like he wants to put blame on the Sixers, but was coached not to say too much. Definitely subtle hints in there tho. He can’t blame the Sixers for not finding that 1 specialist that would diagnose TOS, the cba gives the players the right to control their own diagnosis and medical care. If he felt something was still wrong and kept going with the Sixers doctors that’s on him/his camp.
Don’t wish the kid any ill will, but certainly not a fan and won’t be rooting for him

Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?

I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.

I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.

[Benfitnyc]

Actually the most “normal” I’ve seen Markelle in a press conference. Almost seemed like a normal kid...

But with that said, still no accountability on his part. Sounds like he wants to put blame on the Sixers, but was coached not to say too much. Definitely subtle hints in there tho. He can’t blame the Sixers for not finding that 1 specialist that would diagnose TOS, the cba gives the players the right to control their own diagnosis and medical care. If he felt something was still wrong and kept going with the Sixers doctors that’s on him/his camp.
Don’t wish the kid any ill will, but certainly not a fan and won’t be rooting for him

Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?

I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.

I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.

Did anyone else realize that he invented a word at the 12:53 mark? “Dramastically” is not a word.

[Kova]

This kid has some serious psychological issues that it's not even funny anymore. At least he is set for life now, so he can at least look to get his mental health right and live a normal life. (outside of basketball of course)

[FireMorey]

I wouldn’t be shocked if he retired within a year. For each excuse and lie for why he can’t shoot is made, the pressure on him mounts more and more. He’s doing damage to his own psyche and he doesn’t even see it. Once he declares hes 100% “healed” from TOS, everyone is going to expect him to shoot normally again. A lot of unnecessary pressure on Himself. Man he has bad council.

I just think if it gets to a point where if by year 3 he still hasn’t overcome him forgetting how to shoot, I could see him retiring and just walking away.

[Ben Simmons]

Weltman and Clifford sounded like they were describing a young Michael Jordan

[gdog2004]

Philly babied this kid. He should be nothing but thankful. Wait till Orlando realizes he is FOS.

[PhillyFan11]

Actually the most “normal” I’ve seen Markelle in a press conference. Almost seemed like a normal kid...

But with that said, still no accountability on his part. Sounds like he wants to put blame on the Sixers, but was coached not to say too much. Definitely subtle hints in there tho. He can’t blame the Sixers for not finding that 1 specialist that would diagnose TOS, the cba gives the players the right to control their own diagnosis and medical care. If he felt something was still wrong and kept going with the Sixers doctors that’s on him/his camp.
Don’t wish the kid any ill will, but certainly not a fan and won’t be rooting for him

Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?

I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.

I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.

I don’t doubt that he got a diagnosis...TOS seems to be just vague enough to get a diagnosis without any real way to refute it.
My real question is why there was never a name put to the diagnosis. If you’re a specialist and think you found an issue in a high profile patient that no one else could, wouldn’t you want your name attached in the media? Seems almost like human nature that the Dr would want the publicity to grow their name/business.

[magicmouse]

Are you ready to play?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

Whats your time frame?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

Can you shoot without discomfort since being in rehab?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

Are you going to continue to rehab in LA or Orlando?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

What kind of impact can you make on the court?

Just working on getting back to being the 'Kelle i know...and taking my time and doing things the right way



Theres the whole presser boiled down

[FireMorey]

He dodged every question here too. The reason he doesn’t get into specifics is because if he did, he could back himself into a corner for reasons why he can’t get his shot back to normal. He continues to always be vague, so he can just whip out new reasons for why he can’t shoot right and why it’s taking so long.

If he said today he’s 90% healed for example, and he comes into training camp next summer and still can’t shoot right, people are gonna want to know why 6 months later his shot is still broken when he was 90% healed in February. But if he dodges the questions he can just say “oh, I’m still hurt”

[Samson]

Reminds me of almost the "I'm just here so I don't get fined." He had a little bit of a reaction with the eyes rolling and neck-turn and breathing after one of the timeline questions -- that he refused to answer, twice -- ... I personally would have thrown out there, "So, that's a NO?" on the timeline to return etc.

Also made it clear he's going to stay in LA to rehab. I thought that was ridiculous IMHO. "Tell you what you want to hear" WTF?

I think there is either a serious, serious mental problem (for example, there was multiple references to a past Cleveland Browns high first round pick, was it Justin Gilbert maybe? And a few things were mentioned and I remember doing research, and found old posts from his college days, people were mentioning, maybe possibly it's possible maybe kinda possibly he can't read... so the dude got to the NFL, 8th pick, etc. multi-millionaire, but can't read... Big issue.) --- either he has real, absolutely not-minor mental problems, or really does have a serious physical problem he knows about and we don't. He mentions his Mom way too many times btw. I mean really now, you're a 20+ year old multimillionaire man in the NBA, #1 overall pick.


REALLY makes me wonder if the rumors of him crashing his ATV right after being drafted are true. Did he see a doctor and was told, "I am so sorry but you'll never be the same..." or he felt it? (I know I never had my same quickness on the wrestling mat when I blew my knee. I came back and all, but I was never THE SAME with my pushing-off quickness / first step shooting etc.) --- Is he absolutely trying to protect himself , knowing he'll never get a $250+ million contract, so he wants to ensure he gets the remainder of this contract?

"I'll talk a little bit about what it feels like... it's hard to describe." "It's not like you're doing the same motions every time" ... Uh, say what now? You're shooting a basketball, it's one of the most consistently same motions in the sports world. "it changes your life dramastically" .... nice, dramastically. Nice.


He himself, "TOS is very hard to diagnose!" Right. In other words, very convenient to disprove. SMH.


I hate we gave up so much and comparatively got so little for him. But sounds more and more like this was one of the absolute best case of addition by subtraction.

[XtremeDunkz]

Are you ready to play?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

Whats your time frame?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

Can you shoot without discomfort since being in rehab?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

Are you going to continue to rehab in LA or Orlando?

Just taking my time and doing things the right way

What kind of impact can you make on the court?

Just working on getting back to being the 'Kelle i know...and taking my time and doing things the right way



Theres the whole presser boiled down

Sounds familiar. Have fun

[SwingOnThis]

There is no timetable for setting a timetable.

[BullyKing]

How I long for the day when this thread will be bumped off the first page.

[the_process]

I know, I know... consider the source, confirmation bias, hot take etc. etc.

BUT the idea the coaching staff "only told him what he wanted to hear" actually fits with the fact Ben still doesn't have a jump shot. And it also fits with the idea that to survive the process years, Brett had to be the ultimate players coach, and now he can't walk that back without losing the locker room.

Of course, if they didn't baby Fultz; he would go on social media and throw a tantrum like a toddler. So there's that.

[the_process]

It's amazing Brand got back some value for Fultz. A+ for that deal.

[XtremeDunkz]

The Orlando board is already starting to turn after the presser.

[Bum Adebayo]

As soon as he is not with our team, the opinion on him on this forum has plummeted. Guys that supported him stopped doing so.

[LloydFree]

I wouldn’t be shocked if he retired within a year. For each excuse and lie for why he can’t shoot is made, the pressure on him mounts more and more. He’s doing damage to his own psyche and he doesn’t even see it. Once he declares hes 100% “healed” from TOS, everyone is going to expect him to shoot normally again. A lot of unnecessary pressure on Himself. Man he has bad council.

I just think if it gets to a point where if by year 3 he still hasn’t overcome him forgetting how to shoot, I could see him retiring and just walking away.

I disagree. His council put him in position to get himself drafted #1, while not being any good. Which ensured him of making 25 million from the 76ers and 5 million more from Nike. Then they managed to keep the charade going long enough to get him traded for another 1st, and a chance to bank another 12 million dollar option. I bet guys like Cliff Alexander, Skal Labbiserre and the Harrison twins, wish they had advisors like Fultz's guys.

[76ers]

Needless to say I will be rooting against this dude for the rest of his career.

I hope we give him a "nice" welcome when he finally suits up for a game against us.

[Samson]

Bum I supported him as long as humanly possible. I mean I DID NOT want to dump him for an undrafted SF that's unlikely to play major minutes and 2 2nd round picks.

But at some point, I mean , really now.

I agree, the presser was pretty bad from ORL's perspective. I would be ticked too. "As far as I'm concerned, I've already had a great effect on the team! 4-0 since the trade! I can sit on the sidelines in my designer clothes and stupid bowl-cut/dreadlocks haircut and clown with my teammates .... wait, are they my teammates , if I'm never actually going to play, am I really on the team? Hold on, it's pay day, pay me my money. Pay Me My Money. In Cash."


I know this will PO a lot of people, but we'd be much better off with Josh Jackson (whom I wanted all along.) I know a famous person here or two thinks he's the worst player in NBA History (and selfsame people have a list about 2 decades long of "Worst Players In NBA History..." ..hmm..) but at least HE'S PLAYING IN THE NBA... Assuming we couldn't have got Tatum because BOS took him first and Lonzo went 2nd, we could have had Josh Jackson (the #1 high school prospect in the nation in his day) ... or we could have had my main man De'Aaron Fox, who would probably have been perfect for us, or my other main man, J Issac... but Noooo. We had to get "Kelle" (notice he's now referring to himself as "kelle" ... cool duder!)

I'm fired up now. Forget him. We got Jimmy Buckets, we got Tobias Harris, plus we got 2 of the top 5 most-recent Best Players in the NBA in Big Ben & Joel. Fultz is just a guy who's set for life with $20+ million dollars by making a fool of himself shooting a basketball.