Welcome Tyrese Maxey!

[phillynative]

What were his combine #'s? I can't seem to find them.

[MVP1992]

What were his combine #'s? I can't seem to find them.

Did you google it?
About 7th result down it's reported he was invited but opted out.

[Negrodamus]

His mechanics are alright, but I do think he has a little bit of a low, push shot. I don't know how well that translates into an off the dribble shooter, but I suppose time will tell. A bit troubling that he's not even that good at catch and shoot:

Maxey was well below-average as a catch-and-shoot guy — he made just 25 percent of his attempts despite 60 percent of those attempts coming on possessions deemed "unguarded" by Synergy.

[phillynative]

What were his combine #'s? I can't seem to find them.

Did you google it?
About 7th result down it's reported he was invited but opted out.

Oh ok makes since.

Where did the 6'2 .5 without shoes measurement come from?

I'm just wondering in hopes he might have grew an inch since

[Sixerscan]

His mechanics are alright, but I do think he has a little bit of a low, push shot. I don't know how well that translates into an off the dribble shooter, but I suppose time will tell. A bit troubling that he's not even that good at catch and shoot:

Maxey was well below-average as a catch-and-shoot guy — he made just 25 percent of his attempts despite 60 percent of those attempts coming on possessions deemed "unguarded" by Synergy.

We’ll see if he’s been working as hard as he says he has, you can make real changes at his age in 9 months.

One thing I will say about Klutch is they tend to set guys up in solid NBA quality training programs. There’s less of a concern that some random trainer is going to come in and make some wacky change to a guy’s shot or something.

[davesilver]

His mechanics are alright, but I do think he has a little bit of a low, push shot. I don't know how well that translates into an off the dribble shooter, but I suppose time will tell. A bit troubling that he's not even that good at catch and shoot:

Maxey was well below-average as a catch-and-shoot guy — he made just 25 percent of his attempts despite 60 percent of those attempts coming on possessions deemed "unguarded" by Synergy.

I’m hopeful all of those weaknesses could be cleaned up. Seems to have good instincts off the dribble and wasn’t hesitant to catch and shoot

[Arsenal]

His mechanics are alright, but I do think he has a little bit of a low, push shot. I don't know how well that translates into an off the dribble shooter, but I suppose time will tell. A bit troubling that he's not even that good at catch and shoot:

Maxey was well below-average as a catch-and-shoot guy — he made just 25 percent of his attempts despite 60 percent of those attempts coming on possessions deemed "unguarded" by Synergy.

I’m hopeful all of those weaknesses could be cleaned up. Seems to have good instincts off the dribble and wasn’t hesitant to catch and shoot

Agree w/the overall point but disagree he wasn't hesitant. For example in the scouting video he did with Mike Schmitz that's one of the areas of improvement they highlighted. Turning down open C&S opps to drive instead.

Good thing is he seems like a smart, coachable kid who will listen to instruction. I bet the staff is confident he'll get it in time.

Watch on YouTube

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[Eyeamok]

His mechanics are alright, but I do think he has a little bit of a low, push shot. I don't know how well that translates into an off the dribble shooter, but I suppose time will tell. A bit troubling that he's not even that good at catch and shoot:

Maxey was well below-average as a catch-and-shoot guy — he made just 25 percent of his attempts despite 60 percent of those attempts coming on possessions deemed "unguarded" by Synergy.

We’ll see if he’s been working as hard as he says he has, you can make real changes at his age in 9 months.

One thing I will say about Klutch is they tend to set guys up in solid NBA quality training programs. There’s less of a concern that some random trainer is going to come in and make some wacky change to a guy’s shot or something.

So when is this solid quality training program going to produce improvement in Ben's shooting ?

[skulky]

His mechanics are alright, but I do think he has a little bit of a low, push shot. I don't know how well that translates into an off the dribble shooter, but I suppose time will tell. A bit troubling that he's not even that good at catch and shoot:

I’m hopeful all of those weaknesses could be cleaned up. Seems to have good instincts off the dribble and wasn’t hesitant to catch and shoot

Agree w/the overall point but disagree he wasn't hesitant. For example in the scouting video he did with Mike Schmitz that's one of the areas of improvement they highlighted. Turning down open C&S opps to drive instead.

Good thing is he seems like a smart, coachable kid who will listen to instruction. I bet the staff is confident he'll get it in time.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=NBAonESPN

Mike Schmitz did such a great job with this series and the follow up shorter length interviews. I thought Halliburton and Maxey were the big standouts in those interviews.

[Stanford]

He reminds me a lot of Donovan Mitchell

[Kobblehead]

@76iology, why do you think Maxey will struggle to separate? His handle is pretty crazy. Very shift with the ball in his hands, too.

[76ciology]

@76iology, why do you think Maxey will struggle to separate? His handle is pretty crazy. Very shift with the ball in his hands, too.

Because wing defenders can sag off him, because of his length and they dont have info on him other than he has a questionable jumper and a good finishing ability. This may lead them to have an easier time to recover once he blows pass them initially. Much more if he’s defended by smaller PGs.

Key for me is for him to improve his jumper that defenders has to stay close at him. If he can do that then he can be effective. He has good foundation with his jumper and works for him, unlike a PG on this team, so he may improve.

[phillynative]

@76iology, why do you think Maxey will struggle to separate? His handle is pretty crazy. Very shift with the ball in his hands, too.

His handles are tight but nothing special . He has no advanced moves , counter moves and if he does you didnt really see them playing for kentucky. Jrue for instance struggled off the ball in college but he was always a above average ball handler with solid court vision.

[skulky]

I don’t get the Sexton and Mitchell comps. I’m not seeing anywhere close to that level of athleticism from Maxey. And his handle is pretty average, nothing special, no elite first step or burst or advanced moves.

Not saying that to be completely dismissive of him. I like the pick but there’s reasons he fell to 21 and my expectations are tempered especially for this season. I do really like his motor and mindset and I’m impressed everytime I hear him speak. I’d definitely bet on him making it and carving out a solid career. But sexton was getting double the free throw attempts in college and a year younger, as well as a better shooter. Sexton is on another level athletically, even at 6’ tall he has some serious verticality in his game and is a lob threat back door. And Mitchell we just watched dropping 50 in playoff games. And he had above average athleticism coming out of college.

[Kobblehead]

I think if you're going to be down on Maxey, be down on his terrible defense and be down on the fact that his jumper needs to be developed as opposed to being ready-made.

His ability to actually score off the dribble is no concern whatsoever, to me. I think he can get by guys in his sleep.

[Negrodamus]

I think for the grief Calipari get here for his offense, it was the thing that really let Maxey get to the rim with relative ease when he was off ball. When he was off ball, frequently he was able to attack off the dribble with a head full of steam because the defenders were terrified of Quickley getting open looks. If I were game planning for Maxey, I'd just let him shoot it rather than closing out on him.

[Kobblehead]

The conundrum with Simmons that made the sag off tactic so successful is that Ben doesn't have natural off-dribble scoring abilities. I feel like Maxey would attack the space he's given and drill mid-range jumpers ala Fultz if they deployed that tactic against him. That's the beauty of having actual ball handlers on the ball as opposed to just having guys LARPing as one (Simmons).

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I think he's a hard worker, I think he's exactly what we were hoping to get when we draft Fultz. He actually reminds me a bit of him in terms of the way he handles the basketball and how he gets to the rim. The difference between the two is that I don't think Maxey is afraid of the moment where I think Fultz was when he first got into the league. Obviously Fultz has been able to make the adjustment and i'm happy for him. I don't see it being an issue with Maxey at all. He's going to be ready to play as soon as his name is called. By ready I don't mean a complete finished product, but more so in he's going to be a playmaker for us right away in some facet. Be it a steal, some energy on defense, a big momentum changing shot/dunk. Those flash plays are going to be there right away with this kid and the majority of the time when you see those things out of a rookie right away, it means good things are waiting down the road.

[Black Mage]

your continued acting like things are set in stone baffles me after being so wrong about the Lakers.

You just pivot to a new talking point and pound it into the ground lol. A season ago defense didn't even matter to you and it was all about 3 level scoring and whatnot....

Maxey is definitely a work in progress in general but to act like he will NEVER become a passable defender is nuts to me. Kid works hard and isn't a stiff or super tiny; Ben was a **** ass defender in college too (albeit more of an effort thing)...let these kids grow.

How was I so wrong about the Lakers?

They won a vacation tournament where 80% of the league didn't even want to play in. Including the prohibited favorites of the league. Lol at thinking that somehow proves teams that lack shotcreation should be viewed as title favorites in a real season.

Nonsense, Simmons was one of the best defensive players in the nation. Again, network analysts passing bad defensive opinions onto the general public.

I know I'm late to the party, but I just had to hi-lite this one part as why you have zero credibility with me anymore. There's video of him literally just letting guys run past him in college. GTFO.

[Negrodamus]

your continued acting like things are set in stone baffles me after being so wrong about the Lakers.

You just pivot to a new talking point and pound it into the ground lol. A season ago defense didn't even matter to you and it was all about 3 level scoring and whatnot....

Maxey is definitely a work in progress in general but to act like he will NEVER become a passable defender is nuts to me. Kid works hard and isn't a stiff or super tiny; Ben was a **** ass defender in college too (albeit more of an effort thing)...let these kids grow.

How was I so wrong about the Lakers?

They won a vacation tournament where 80% of the league didn't even want to play in. Including the prohibited favorites of the league. Lol at thinking that somehow proves teams that lack shotcreation should be viewed as title favorites in a real season.

Nonsense, Simmons was one of the best defensive players in the nation. Again, network analysts passing bad defensive opinions onto the general public.

I know I'm late to the party, but I just had to hi-lite this one part as why you have zero credibility with me anymore. There's video of him literally just letting guys run past him in college. GTFO.

I actually have been thinking about this topic as it pertains to college prospects since we drafted Maxey and my subsequent deeper dive into his game.

I feel like Maxey puts forth more effort than an average player into the defensive side of the ball to not be a liability on that end, which is admirable. His lack of deflections, steals, and mediocre defensive advanced numbers suggest that defense isn't as instinctual for him.

Conversely, a guy like Ben Simmons, who played uninspired defense his entire freshman year, has nasty numbers in those categories. Clearly defense is/was second nature and he needed inspiration (ie playing at the highest level for something that actually holds value to him) to become the defensive star he is today.

When it comes to defensive games, I've definitely converted to "talent" over "effort". Markelle, even with his mix reviews on the defensive end at Washington, was the turning point for me. He was played with zero effort on the defensive end, but still able to generate turnovers and blocked shots/deflections. Shouldn't be a surprise that he looks competent to good on the defensive end in the pros.