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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#121 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:21 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Simmons and Thybulle for Edwards and salary (Beverley and Prince expirings).

Over payment.

Not really. Anthony Edwards is a hall of famer in the making. It would actually be hilarious if we could get a phenom like that for Simmons and a spare part defensive specialist.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#122 » by thenbaman » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:26 pm

From what everyone says he's a wiggins 2.0
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#123 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:29 pm

thenbaman wrote:From what everyone says he's a wiggins 2.0

That's a surface level diss that doesn't go beyond them both being Timberwolves.

What made Wiggins so overrated in the beginning was that he didn't pass, make plays defensively, or shoot threes. He was just scoring a bunch of mid-range jumpers and transition dunks.

Edwards' assist numbers and deflection stats are really promising. And he's scaring the crap out of teams from three at a similar rate Korkmaz is.

Edwards is the complete package. He's an Embiid level talent.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#124 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:56 pm

I dunno, Edwards is 50 pounds heavier, 10x more athletic, and broke out into stardom two years younger than Shai did (Edwards just turned 20 in August). I love Shai, I think he's an eventual hall of famer, as well. But I see Edwards as an eventual MVP level talent that competes for scoring titles.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#125 » by Negrodamus » Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:45 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:Min has to be getting desperate for Ben. The wheels are coming off. KAT with 8 points in 31 minutes, yikes.


Yeah, but they really have nothing we could use.


Useful idiots for a three team trade.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#126 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:48 pm

I was really high on Edwards pre draft, he will be a superstar no doubt, the ship to get him has sailed though, wolves would trade Towns before trading Edwards.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#127 » by the_process » Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:48 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Min has to be getting desperate for Ben. The wheels are coming off. KAT with 8 points in 31 minutes, yikes.


Yeah, but they really have nothing we could use.


Edwards has a ton of value and can be used to get an actual difference maker.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#128 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:22 pm

Honestly, I think the Wolves will be fine if they just stand pat and get a good coach. They have all the talent they need to organically become a contender. They just need to get a reputable coach and tighten up the spare part role players they have.

If they panic and move Towns or Edwards, they'd be fools. I'm hoping that's exactly what they do.

Edwards would be Morey's masterstroke, but if we can get a three team action where Towns pairs up with Zion and Ingram pairs up with Embiid, everyone will be better and happy.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#129 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:28 pm

And I still think DeAngelo Russell is really sneaky good and would be a great fit here. His stock is perpetually dumped on because he's a doofus and a bit injury prone, but he's really good.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#130 » by Tomjas » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:35 pm

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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#131 » by Sixerscan » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:13 pm

Russell sucks. People say Simmons disappears in the playoffs well he completely dominated Russell in the last 4 games of that series.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#132 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:28 pm

Getting Ant would be a dream come true. Let's stop kidding ourselves and acting like we'd turn up our nose at that deal. Simmons/Shake for Ant/Prince/Layman.


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Maybe they won't trade Ant, but I think it's obvious they have to choose if they're still going to try and win now with KAT or reset and build around Ant.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#133 » by Sixerscan » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:41 pm

I assume by saying “they have nothing we can use” he’s assuming they still don’t want to trade Edwards or Towns.

Getting Edwards along with Maxey on their rookie deals for two more years after this one allows you to do an on the fly rebuild around Embiid and the kids.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#134 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:10 pm

Literally any of the Timberwolves pieces (Towns, Edwards, Russell, Beasley) would be a massive upgrade over playoff Ben Simmons.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#135 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:18 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Getting Ant would be a dream come true.

When's the last decade the Sixers had two hall of famers that were in or about to enter their prime playing together at the same time? Edwards/Embiid would be pure magic.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#136 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:21 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Russell sucks. People say Simmons disappears in the playoffs well he completely dominated Russell in the last 4 games of that series.

He's flawed as hell, but he was just 22 in his first and only playoff series going against the 4th ranked defense in the league. Still managed to have good scoring output, he just struggled with efficiency.

You don't think we'd benefit from Russell's positional size, passing, and floor spacing?
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#137 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:23 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Getting Ant would be a dream come true.

When's the last decade the Sixers had two hall of famers that were in or about to enter their prime playing together at the same time? Edwards/Embiid would be pure magic.


You just have to hope they feel the pressure to make the playoffs/play-in. I think Simmons gets them there.

Imagine seeing Edwards's continued ascent as Embiid takes a backseat in 3-4 years...
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#138 » by Tomjas » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:31 pm

We’re not getting Edwards
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#139 » by DCasey91 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:33 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Russell sucks. People say Simmons disappears in the playoffs well he completely dominated Russell in the last 4 games of that series.

He's flawed as hell, but he was just 22 in his first and only playoff series going against the 4th ranked defense in the league. Still managed to have good scoring output, he just struggled with efficiency.

You don't think we'd benefit from Russell's positional size, passing, and floor spacing?


What size and what floor spacing?

DLO is trash, KAT is trash, let Ben go to the Wolves who cares.

Move Antman for Lillard/Ingram/Brown in a 3way.

Their FO is stupid. Blow it up get hardy vets and one younger player that compliments Edwards and ride that until the wheels fall off.

KAT scored 8 points and was giggling like a little schoolgirl to PG.

Once again DLO is trash. He’s the Tobithus of guards. Dimwiddie was the better guard when DLO made his only All Star appearance.

I agree with Tomjas which sucks but we are not getting Edwards if the people at the Wolves have any common sense because if they don’t that org should just quit and afaik lol.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#140 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:44 pm

If Towns asked out, I think they would placate him with an Edwards trade. He's one of the very best players in their franchise's history. It would be awful if they had to move him at 26.

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