Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Kobblehead]

Here's a hot take: I'd rather have Tobias Harris on my playoff roster than Klay Thompson.

Tobias Harris: 17.1 ppg on 47.3% shooting, 12.8% rebounding, 13.6% assist, 1.2% steal, 1.4% block
Klay Thompson: 19.2 ppg on 43.6% shooting, 5.9% rebounding, 9.4% assist, 1.3% steal, 1.3% block

[Stanford]

Klay has to have more gravity than Tobias. His impact likely doesn't show up in the numbers. He'd make Embiid's life way easier, at least in his prime.

[Kobblehead]

J.J. Reddick in the 2018 playoffs: 18.2 ppg on 44.4% shooting

Pretty similar to Klay's career playoff offensive output. That gravity didn't seem to have any positive impact on Embiid's numbers. Joel scored 21.4 ppg on a pitiful 43.5% shooting that year.

So given that the gravity that comes with the better shooter doesn't seem to help Embiid play better, I'll take the bigger, more efficient, well-rounded player in Harris over Thompson.

[mjkvol]

Here's a hot take: I'd rather have Tobias Harris on my playoff roster than Klay Thompson.

Tobias Harris: 17.1 ppg on 47.3% shooting, 12.8% rebounding, 13.6% assist, 1.2% steal, 1.4% block
Klay Thompson: 19.2 ppg on 43.6% shooting, 5.9% rebounding, 9.4% assist, 1.3% steal, 1.3% block

More evidence that numbers can be incredibly deceiving. Klay is a HOFer who has shown up in some of the biggest spots on a four-time championship team. Tobias is a numbers-accumulator generally in lower pressure situations. We can think of great Klay moments, but I'm at a loss coming up with one for Tobias.

[Kobblehead]

Here's a hot take: I'd rather have Tobias Harris on my playoff roster than Klay Thompson.

Tobias Harris: 17.1 ppg on 47.3% shooting, 12.8% rebounding, 13.6% assist, 1.2% steal, 1.4% block
Klay Thompson: 19.2 ppg on 43.6% shooting, 5.9% rebounding, 9.4% assist, 1.3% steal, 1.3% block

More evidence that numbers can be incredibly deceiving. Klay is a HOFer who has shown up in some of the biggest spots on a four-time championship team. Tobias is a numbers-accumulator generally in lower pressure situations. We can think of great Klay moments, but I'm at a loss coming up with one for Tobias.

Klay having more moments than Tobias can be largely attributed to the fact that he's played for a far superior bus driver (Steph Curry). Maybe there'd be more Tobias moments if he got deeper in the playoffs more consistently like what Klay has benefitted from. Let's not forget how quickly the reputation of Andrew Wiggins changed by him taking advantage of that very same privilege.

[Jailblazers7]

Peak Klay was a top tier defender & an order of magnitude better than Tobias on that end. Klay was guarding Kyrie on an island & was doing an awesome job. Kyrie just happened to hit some unbelievable shots in that Finals.

[Kobblehead]

Where are the numbers that back up Klay being a good defender?

[eyeatoma]

This is like Kobble's Durant theories.

[Stanford]

Give the man his advance statisticos

[Kobblehead]

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Look at Reed becoming ingrained in Philly.

[FireMorey]

Suns finding ways to replenish draft capital. Must be nice.

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[Black Mage]

Suns finding ways to replenish draft capital. Must be nice.

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My god, just how dumb is Orlando? How could ownership ever think their pick by 2026 will be worse than the Suns... Good lord, what a dumb franchise.

[Jailblazers7]

Where are the numbers that back up Klay being a good defender?

There’s this crazy advanced technology called video footage. It’s like the numbers come to life & happen right in front of you.

[eyeatoma]

Where are the numbers that back up Klay being a good defender?

There’s this crazy advanced technology called video footage. It’s like the numbers come to life & happen right in front of you.

lmao

[Kobblehead]

Where are the numbers that back up Klay being a good defender?

There’s this crazy advanced technology called video footage. It’s like the numbers come to life & happen right in front of you.

That's a copout nonsense answer. All the defensive metrics point to Klay being a bad defender. Reminds me of when people always just regurgitated that Avery Bradley was some kind of awesome defender, when in reality he sucked. Klay is a shooter/scorer. His reputation as a "3&D" player is exaggerated rubbish.

[Jailblazers7]

J.J. Reddick in the 2018 playoffs: 18.2 ppg on 44.4% shooting

Pretty similar to Klay's career playoff offensive output. That gravity didn't seem to have any positive impact on Embiid's numbers. Joel scored 21.4 ppg on a pitiful 43.5% shooting that year.

So given that the gravity that comes with the better shooter doesn't seem to help Embiid play better, I'll take the bigger, more efficient, well-rounded player in Harris over Thompson.

JJ Redick career 30 point games in the playoffs: 1
JJ Redick career 30 point games in the reg season: 14

Klay career 30 point games in the playoffs: 17
Klay career 30 point games in the reg season: 74

There are levels to it & the gravity between Klay & JJ is not comparable. Also, the fact that Joel stinks with great shooters doesn’t mean that we should avoid them in favor of Tobias Harris lol

[Kobblehead]

Gravity has no impact on Embiid's effectiveness, so it's not relevant.

Harris is bigger, more efficient, and more well-rounded across the board than Thompson and the numbers prove it.

[Jailblazers7]

Gravity has no impact on Embiid's effectiveness, so it's not relevant.

Harris is bigger, more efficient, and more well-rounded across the board than Thompson and the numbers prove it.

Embiid has never advanced past round 2 with Tobias Harris physically playing on his team. It’s a known fact that has driven this fan base to the brink of insanity. What are we even talking about right now?

[Kobblehead]

Klay Thompson is a single digit assist percentage, single digit rebound percentage, scorer that shoots 43.6% from the field in the postseason.

The pure facts are that he simply doesn't fill up the boxscore and he's a very inefficient scorer in the playoffs.

If you would take that over Tobias Harris, there's plenty more room on Cam Thomas island if anyone wants to join.

[youngcrev]

Jesus Christ.

Is this just like an exercise in taking a bad position and seeing if you can argue it?

I'm not taking the bait. Or the follow up bait of "if it's such a bad take..."