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Re: 2024-25 Philadelphia 76ers Check In Thread (Your Current Feel on the team) 

Post#121 » by Eyeamok » Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:49 am

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Eyeamok wrote:I love the doom and gloom. Limping into the playoffs, a one year mini tank, blow it up, Nurse sucks. :lol:

This team may not be want you want them to be today. But the season is still young. Embiid is going to come back, PG will settle into his role, Maxey will be back. And it is the ECF's and loosing to the Celtics for us.

I'll bump this post in a few months just to say I told you so.


That may well be the outcome, but the outlook is way different now than it was 8 games ago.

8 games ago, I thought your prediction was a strong possibility, but we'd have a decent chance of beating the Celtics - or whoever else we'd run into on the way to a championship. That's assuming everyone's healthy, and of course it's not that we'd be favorites - just that we were contenders.

Now, I think your prediction is a strong possibility, but we also have a decent chance of losing in the 1st or 2nd round... with almost no chance of getting into or winning the NBA finals.

If we were a league-average or slightly below average team without Embiid, I think he'd make us contenders. We're not. He's going to make us a playoff team again, and our ceiling might well be the conference finals. But we might not make it that far.


I never thought this team would be going to a be an NBA championship team this seasontbut I still do believe an eastern conference appearance in the finals is very possible. I think a lot of overreaction is taking place by fans on this board. The road to the Eastern Conference Finals is a marathon not a sprint. We are just slow out of the starters block. If this team was 1-8 and Embiid was playing, I would say the season is over. But we have not had a full game with our starters playing together yet. They will get it together.
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Post#122 » by Eyeamok » Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:50 am

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Eyeamok wrote:Limping into the playoffs :lol:


What seed do you think they'll finish as?


5th or 6th. It's still early days.
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Re: 2024-25 Philadelphia 76ers Check In Thread (Your Current Feel on the team) 

Post#123 » by Mik317 » Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:20 am

its less doom and gloom and moreso the reality that it all comes down to Joel Hans Embiid solving all of the problems and staying healthy doing so.

Everyone's "plan" is for him to play less games and that will be the recipe for him getting to the playoffs healthy....when the real plan should have been making it so he doesn't have to play superman every time he does play for the team to win...and during this start idk if that has changed. I expected Maxey to take another leap...and it seems like he got too swole and its has hurt his shot and speed. PG looks like he can't get by anyone. Martin has Fultz'd himself and the teams general lack of playmaking is rough. And thus even when Biid comes back it feels like the Biid everything system is still at play...and that has been the real reason for our downfall every playoff imo. He's tired, hurt, and the team can't function without him.
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Post#125 » by mjkvol » Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:09 pm

Mik317 wrote:its less doom and gloom and moreso the reality that it all comes down to Joel Hans Embiid solving all of the problems and staying healthy doing so.

Everyone's "plan" is for him to play less games and that will be the recipe for him getting to the playoffs healthy....when the real plan should have been making it so he doesn't have to play superman every time he does play for the team to win...and during this start idk if that has changed.


This nails it. It's too early to draw conclusions on George and whether he's a legit "3rd star" or an overpaid 3&D guy, and how good the revamped roster can be. I can't help but believe that Maxey will round to form, but that the possibility exists that what we've seen is what he'll be, which is an all-star level player and a great complimentary scorer but not a guy who can be expected to carry a team.

But as you said, it still appears right now that it's going to be 'Embiid or bust', and given his stated playing time limitations that might not be a good thing.
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Post#126 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:39 pm

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Mik317 wrote:its less doom and gloom and moreso the reality that it all comes down to Joel Hans Embiid solving all of the problems and staying healthy doing so.

Everyone's "plan" is for him to play less games and that will be the recipe for him getting to the playoffs healthy....when the real plan should have been making it so he doesn't have to play superman every time he does play for the team to win...and during this start idk if that has changed.


This nails it. It's too early to draw conclusions on George and whether he's a legit "3rd star" or an overpaid 3&D guy, and how good the revamped roster can be. I can't help but believe that Maxey will round to form, but that the possibility exists that what we've seen is what he'll be, which is an all-star level player and a great complimentary scorer but not a guy who can be expected to carry a team.

But as you said, it still appears right now that it's going to be 'Embiid or bust', and given his stated playing time limitations that might not be a good thing.


Yes but I would rather pay PG than Harden the max bag regardless of what promises that was made or not. Appreciate all the help from Harden to prepare Maxey for the 1 spot with the ball and chain finally removed for him to fly!

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Post#127 » by Ferry Avenue » Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:21 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:I love the doom and gloom. Limping into the playoffs, a one year mini tank, blow it up, Nurse sucks. :lol:

This team may not be want you want them to be today. But the season is still young. Embiid is going to come back, PG will settle into his role, Maxey will be back. And it is the ECF's and loosing to the Celtics for us.

I'll bump this post in a few months just to say I told you so.


That may well be the outcome, but the outlook is way different now than it was 8 games ago.

8 games ago, I thought your prediction was a strong possibility, but we'd have a decent chance of beating the Celtics - or whoever else we'd run into on the way to a championship. That's assuming everyone's healthy, and of course it's not that we'd be favorites - just that we were contenders.

Now, I think your prediction is a strong possibility, but we also have a decent chance of losing in the 1st or 2nd round... with almost no chance of getting into or winning the NBA finals.

If we were a league-average or slightly below average team without Embiid, I think he'd make us contenders. We're not. He's going to make us a playoff team again, and our ceiling might well be the conference finals. But we might not make it that far.


I never thought this team would be going to a be an NBA championship team this seasontbut I still do believe an eastern conference appearance in the finals is very possible. I think a lot of overreaction is taking place by fans on this board. The road to the Eastern Conference Finals is a marathon not a sprint. We are just slow out of the starters block. If this team was 1-8 and Embiid was playing, I would say the season is over. But we have not had a full game with our starters playing together yet. They will get it together.

The team's chances of winning a championship depend on 1) whether they can get the #1 seed in the conference for the playoffs, because they haven't shown the character to win on the road against the best teams in the conference in that setting, and 2) whether Paul George can function as an effective closer in that setting, because neither Embiid nor Maxey has shown he can do that consistently enough. If neither or only one of those happen I'll put my money on another second round exit.
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Post#128 » by Stanford » Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:30 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:Limping into the playoffs :lol:


What seed do you think they'll finish as?


5th or 6th. It's still early days.


If that's good enough to get past the Celtics on the road in the second round, I'll gladly give you credit.
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Post#129 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:21 pm

76ciology wrote:Our chances of blowing this up are close to zero, and we still have a 91% chance of making the playoffs, according to ESPN’s stats. And this team believes that all it need to do is be at the playoffs with a healthy Embiid. It doesn’t care much about the playoff seeding.

We just need to keep playing together, find the best schemes, and build chemistry. Eventually, we’ll be competitive. At some point in the season, we’ll hit our stride.

If we want to win immediately, then I think we should simplify our offense. That’s one reason the Warriors have been so effective this season. Most teams are running basic 2 man or 3 man actions, and there’s no need for complex weave plays that aren’t generating good looks. For a group that’s still learning each other’s style, simplifying will help cut down on turnovers and create more efficient scoring opportunities.


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Post#130 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:23 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:Limping into the playoffs :lol:


What seed do you think they'll finish as?


5th or 6th. It's still early days.


3rd or 4th seed = optimistic
5th or 6th seed = realistic
7th or 8th overall pick = pessimistic
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Post#131 » by Sixercise » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:59 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I realize this team is built to win now. I'm sure we'll make a run once guys get healthy. That doesn't mean that the idea of punting on this season and tanking isn't something I think of daily. IF...IF we want this franchise to continue being in the Finals conversation on a yearly basis, then tanking this season for a top five pick is probably the only way. If Cooper Flagg is the next superstar can't miss player, then maybe you go for it by a mortgage of this season. I highly doubt that we do that though.


That certainly is a legit avenue to consider down the road....but the east is soooooo weak so far this year. The sick sirs could heal/heat up at the right moment, get a mid-tier playoff position....who knows lol. I'd honestly wait another 10 games to really see where they end up
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Post#132 » by 76ciology » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:43 am

One thing I loved about the Process era was rooting for an underdog team that fought hard to win every game. Honestly, I enjoyed that more than watching a fully healthy, talented roster go up against a non-playoff team.

Then rooting that our rookie in McCain performing better than other rookies drafted higher than ours is cherry on top.
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Post#133 » by M2J » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:51 pm

76ciology wrote:One thing I loved about the Process era was rooting for an underdog team that fought hard to win every game. Honestly, I enjoyed that more than watching a fully healthy, talented roster go up against a non-playoff team.

Then rooting that our rookie in McCain performing better than other rookies drafted higher than ours is cherry on top.


You know Morey trying to sell high right now. :nonono:
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Post#134 » by 76ciology » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:20 pm

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76ciology wrote:One thing I loved about the Process era was rooting for an underdog team that fought hard to win every game. Honestly, I enjoyed that more than watching a fully healthy, talented roster go up against a non-playoff team.

Then rooting that our rookie in McCain performing better than other rookies drafted higher than ours is cherry on top.


You know Morey trying to sell high right now. :nonono:


If we’re talking about selling high, it would be Maxey.

And Morey is a cold MOFO.

But i dont see him being traded. Unless its for Giannis.
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Post#135 » by MikRay » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:52 pm

East is sooooo bad we could still get top 6 lololo
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Post#136 » by Negrodamus » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:54 pm



Nurse is doing everything he can to not give too many compliments to McCain. Feels like a psychological approach to not jinx McCain. Hopefully he's going to be ready to start McCain by mid year though since it's so obvious he's the best PG on the team (Maxey is a SG to me).
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Post#137 » by 76thBearCub » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:38 am

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Post#138 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:32 am

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Nurse is doing everything he can to not give too many compliments to McCain. Feels like a psychological approach to not jinx McCain. Hopefully he's going to be ready to start McCain by mid year though since it's so obvious he's the best PG on the team (Maxey is a SG to me).


Starting Yabu at C to start the 2nd half was big.
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Post#139 » by SixthStreet » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:42 am

It seems we've unearthed two unexpected playoff rotation guys in McCain and Yabusele. These are two that can actually play minutes against the Celtics and not get cratered by impact. They both also have games that lend themselves to playing more effectively off of Embiid, so they should get better when the big guy is back.

The non-starter playoff lineups are neatly lined up as Maxey-George-Drummond and McCain-Yabusele-Embiid and then fit Lowry and the non-George wings in the other two spots.

The record sucks but this team is going to be good when healthy. Really really good. Championship level good.
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Post#140 » by M2J » Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:28 am

SixthStreet wrote:It seems we've unearthed two unexpected playoff rotation guys in McCain and Yabusele. These are two that can actually play minutes against the Celtics and not get cratered by impact. They both also have games that lend themselves to playing more effectively off of Embiid, so they should get better when the big guy is back.

The non-starter playoff lineups are neatly lined up as Maxey-George-Drummond and McCain-Yabusele-Embiid and then fit Lowry and the non-George wings in the other two spots.

The record sucks but this team is going to be good when healthy. Really really good. Championship level good.


Yabu definitely throws a wrench in the lineup ideas of this team. However, I think Oubre and Martin could also shoot better when the star power is actually able to take effect with 2 or hopefully 3 guys on the court. My question with Yabu is if he's able to defend the perimeter well enough... Only because he's playing out of position. I would expect he could and his ability to help rebound could be great too, on top of likely being the best shooter of the possible pfs/wings.

Also, yes... These types of injuries and the sadistically cautious approach from this organization regarding them is why the play in tournament exists. If you build the right team and can find a groove during the year, the Lakers and Heat of 2023 prove you still have a chance to advance as far as you would've advanced with a top 3 seed

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