Welcome V.J. Edgecombe

[eyeatoma]

VJ needs to work on his body, specifically, he has to put on weight. He’s currently around 190 lbs, and ideally, he should get to the 210 range, similar to Quentin Grimes. Would be great if he can land to 220. That’s a big reason why he still looks small out there, and to me, it’s the most glaring area of his game that’s lagging behind. NBA has magic juice to make that happen.

Defensively, that lack of weight and strength is going to hurt him in 1v1 situations. The league allows a lot of physicality, but it doesn’t matter if you don’t yet have the frame to handle it. Right now, his defense resembles more of a Robert Covington type, average man to man defense at best with a tendency to gamble for deflections rather than contain.

On the other hand, his handle and jumper have clearly improved. If you charted his development from 2–4 years ago, you’d see a steady upward trend. As long as he keeps working on that trajectory, he’ll be fine. I could easily see him making another noticeable improvement by midseason.

That’s a lot of weight. What nba athlete has added 20-30lbs like that? Westbrook, rose, Wade, Anthony Edwards didnt even do that.

Based on my experience, once you become a dad, it’s easy to add 20-30lbs.

Hahhahaa, I can confirm this!

[eyeatoma]

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=v-j-edgecombe--anthony-edwards--donovan-mitchell--victor-oladipo--dwyane-wade

Biggest concern, is wingspan and weight. It also kind of explains the narrow shoulders.

His shooting is good though, as are his percentages. I think he's got a good chance of becoming similar to one of these players, especially with the work ethic. I'd love for him to grow another inch or 2.

[Iscull]

The more I watch his tape, the more I think he’s a combo guard. Definitely not a wing. His smaller frame will make it difficult for him to box out and defend bigger bodies.

That said, I actually think he’ll pair well at the 2 guard with both Maxey and McCain. He excels off the catch and shoot three and could be a secondary creator, using his speed, athleticism, and handle to attack the rim.

Defensively, he’ll be sticky with most guards in the league. I think he may have a tendency to try to over help on defense instead of sticking to his man, but that’s something that can be coached very easily.

This dude can straight up ball. Feels more like a bigger Eric Bledsoe than Jimmy Butler. Fights for boards, attacks rim, and has a good outside shot.

I think his 36% on catch and shoot threes is way above JBut’s career.

There were a lot of times last year I felt we were too slow with Gordon, Lowry, Reggie, Dowtin, etc. VJ brings an entirely different gear.

[eyeatoma]

The more I watch his tape, the more I think he’s a combo guard. Definitely not a wing. His smaller frame will make it difficult for him to box out and defend bigger bodies.

That said, I actually think he’ll pair well at the 2 guard with both Maxey and McCain. He excels off the catch and shoot three and could be a secondary creator, using his speed, athleticism, and handle to attack the rim.

Defensively, he’ll be sticky with most guards in the league. I think he may have a tendency to try to over help on defense instead of sticking to his man, but that’s something that can be coached very easily.

This dude can straight up ball. Feels more like a bigger Eric Bledsoe than Jimmy Butler. Fights for boards, attacks rim, and has a good outside shot.

I think his 36% on catch and shoot threes is way above JBut’s career.

There were a lot of times last year I felt we were too slow with Gordon, Lowry, Reggie, Dowtin, etc. VJ brings an entirely different gear.

Which is fair Bledsoe was really good when he came into the league.

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[76ciology]

That’s a lot of weight. What nba athlete has added 20-30lbs like that? Westbrook, rose, Wade, Anthony Edwards didnt even do that.

Based on my experience, once you become a dad, it’s easy to add 20-30lbs.

Hahhahaa, I can confirm this!

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

[eyeatoma]

Based on my experience, once you become a dad, it’s easy to add 20-30lbs.

Hahhahaa, I can confirm this!

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Intermittent fasting, calorie deficit, weight training and atleast 10,000 steps a day.

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[Arsenal]

Based on my experience, once you become a dad, it’s easy to add 20-30lbs.

Hahhahaa, I can confirm this!

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Stop eating lol

[Iscull]

Hahhahaa, I can confirm this!

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Stop eating lol

You can body shame Derik Queen all you want, but leave our posters here out of it lmao

[Arsenal]

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Stop eating lol

You can body shame Derik Queen all you want, but leave our posters here out of it lmao

Sorry but no. We have a FAT EPIDEMIC in this country and around the world. So we need to make FAT SHAMING great again!!!

[76ciology]

I’ve been digging into a few Baylor games, mostly thanks to the YouTube algorithm. I started with the ones against Mississippi and Kansas, and now I’m watching the Arizona game.

Baylor reminds me a lot of OKC in how they play, tons of 2, 3 and 4-guard lineups. VJ often plays the 3 in those sets. They run a lot of zone, with heavy use of weave actions, DHO and PnR. I think VJ is capable of creating space, getting to the rim, and drawing fouls. He’s not ready to run the offense full-time, Rob Wright looks more like the PG there, but that’s something I also noticed with Tre Johnson and Kasparas in their tournament games. These guys often defer to less talented teammates, which is actually the right play to max out the talent on the floor and also find holes against mostly zone defense in NCAA unlike the well spaced NBA defense.

VJ’s not a bad shooter, but it’s still the lowest-hanging fruit for him to improve. That, for me, should be a bigger priority than his handle, which I don’t think is that bad, where I think the added mass and strength would help him shield the ball from the defender. And use his legs, bumps and push offs for added space later on. The reason I’m emphasizing shooting is because I see VJ playing a similar role to what he has at Baylor, operating within 2 or 3 guard lineups, staying in the flow of the offense. When he’s open, he has to hit those perimeter shots at a higher rate to be truly effective. If he becomes a legit threat from 3, he’s going to be a nightmare to guard on closeouts, he’s quick and explosive to get to the rim.

And that’s perfectly fine, there’s already a logjam of guys who can initiate or create offense on this team. With Maxey, Grimes, McCain, George, Embiid and maybe even Broome (lol) all capable of generating looks and knocking them at a higher rate than VJ right now, there’s really no pressure on VJ to run the show. I don’t see him taking on that role over any of them. More likely, he’ll defer, play off their gravity, and pick his spots. We’ll probably just get glimpses of his on-ball ability in limited moments, which is all that’s really needed from him early on.

[76ciology]

Hahhahaa, I can confirm this!

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Intermittent fasting, calorie deficit, weight training and atleast 10,000 steps a day.

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I used to be on intermittent fasting during the weekdays, even did fasted cardio during the lockdown. I had a pretty active lifestyle before having a baby. Then last year, the baby arrived… and I gained 20 pounds like it was part of the being the dad package.

Now I’m trying to get back to my old routine, but it feels like my body’s experiencing the same thing Embiid experienced after he had Arthur and my body is breakingdown. The fasting gives me stomach ulcer (i even visited a doctor just recently), and every workout leaves me aching, with surprise injuries like random Achilles pain. I even bought a massage gun just to survive recovery. Normally I’d bounce back in a couple of weeks, but it’s been six damn months already.

Still, I’m taking small steps. Trust the process..

[Arsenal]

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Intermittent fasting, calorie deficit, weight training and atleast 10,000 steps a day.

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I used to be on intermittent fasting during the weekdays, even did fasted cardio during the lockdown. I had a pretty active lifestyle before having a baby. Then last year, the baby arrived… and I gained 20 pounds like it was part of the being the dad package.

Now I’m trying to get back to my old routine, but it feels like my body’s experiencing the same thing Embiid experienced after he had Arthur and my body is breakingdown. The fasting gives me stomach ulcer (i even visited a doctor just recently), and every workout leaves me aching, with surprise injuries like random Achilles pain. I even bought a massage gun just to survive recovery. Normally I’d bounce back in a couple of weeks, but it’s been six damn months already.

Still, I’m taking small steps. Trust the process..

Never heard of fasting causing a stomach ulcer.

For me, 18/6 fasting daily is pretty easy. Then when I want to drop weight I do 23/1 (One Meal a Day or OMAD) for a couple weeks at a time.

Key is to drink a lot of fluids and electrolytes throughout the day to avoid headaches.

Combine that with 10k steps walking per day and the weight drops off.

[eyeatoma]

It’s like the baby weight jumped past my wife and landed straight on me. I’ve tried everything to get back in shape…

Intermittent fasting, calorie deficit, weight training and atleast 10,000 steps a day.

Sent from my SM-S938B using Tapatalk

I used to be on intermittent fasting during the weekdays, even did fasted cardio during the lockdown. I had a pretty active lifestyle before having a baby. Then last year, the baby arrived… and I gained 20 pounds like it was part of the being the dad package.

Now I’m trying to get back to my old routine, but it feels like my body’s experiencing the same thing Embiid experienced after he had Arthur and my body is breakingdown. The fasting gives me stomach ulcer (i even visited a doctor just recently), and every workout leaves me aching, with surprise injuries like random Achilles pain. I even bought a massage gun just to survive recovery. Normally I’d bounce back in a couple of weeks, but it’s been six damn months already.

Still, I’m taking small steps. Trust the process..

Welcome to your 40s I guess haha. I'm 42, and have had similar issues. I have heartburn from all sorts of food, and sometimes from fasting, and I get Achilles issues as well. Do calf raises (2 legs, and single legs, then progress to weighted).

[eyeatoma]

Intermittent fasting, calorie deficit, weight training and atleast 10,000 steps a day.

Sent from my SM-S938B using Tapatalk

I used to be on intermittent fasting during the weekdays, even did fasted cardio during the lockdown. I had a pretty active lifestyle before having a baby. Then last year, the baby arrived… and I gained 20 pounds like it was part of the being the dad package.

Now I’m trying to get back to my old routine, but it feels like my body’s experiencing the same thing Embiid experienced after he had Arthur and my body is breakingdown. The fasting gives me stomach ulcer (i even visited a doctor just recently), and every workout leaves me aching, with surprise injuries like random Achilles pain. I even bought a massage gun just to survive recovery. Normally I’d bounce back in a couple of weeks, but it’s been six damn months already.

Still, I’m taking small steps. Trust the process..

Never heard of fasting causing a stomach ulcer.

For me, 18/6 fasting daily is pretty easy. Then when I want to drop weight I do 23/1 (One Meal a Day or OMAD) for a couple weeks at a time.

Key is to drink a lot of fluids and electrolytes throughout the day to avoid headaches.

Combine that with 10k steps walking per day and the weight drops off.

Sometimes if you have increased acid production, it'll eat away at your stomach lining if you don't eat in the morning.

[Arsenal]

I used to be on intermittent fasting during the weekdays, even did fasted cardio during the lockdown. I had a pretty active lifestyle before having a baby. Then last year, the baby arrived… and I gained 20 pounds like it was part of the being the dad package.

Now I’m trying to get back to my old routine, but it feels like my body’s experiencing the same thing Embiid experienced after he had Arthur and my body is breakingdown. The fasting gives me stomach ulcer (i even visited a doctor just recently), and every workout leaves me aching, with surprise injuries like random Achilles pain. I even bought a massage gun just to survive recovery. Normally I’d bounce back in a couple of weeks, but it’s been six damn months already.

Still, I’m taking small steps. Trust the process..

Never heard of fasting causing a stomach ulcer.

For me, 18/6 fasting daily is pretty easy. Then when I want to drop weight I do 23/1 (One Meal a Day or OMAD) for a couple weeks at a time.

Key is to drink a lot of fluids and electrolytes throughout the day to avoid headaches.

Combine that with 10k steps walking per day and the weight drops off.

Sometimes if you have increased acid production, it'll eat away at your stomach lining if you don't eat in the morning.

Sounds like propaganda from BIG FOOD

[sodmoraes]

How do you compare VJ´s athletic abilities with Maxey´s? He seems to be a way better jumper than Tyrese, but i´m curious about the first step, since Maxey is one of the fastest players on the nba.

[TYO23]

I need Lowry to give up 7 for our Rook. Can’t have him out there with a left tackle number.

[Iscull]

I need Lowry to give up 7 for our Rook. Can’t have him out there with a left tackle number.

It’s brutal

[MVP1992]

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[76ciology]

Intermittent fasting, calorie deficit, weight training and atleast 10,000 steps a day.

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I used to be on intermittent fasting during the weekdays, even did fasted cardio during the lockdown. I had a pretty active lifestyle before having a baby. Then last year, the baby arrived… and I gained 20 pounds like it was part of the being the dad package.

Now I’m trying to get back to my old routine, but it feels like my body’s experiencing the same thing Embiid experienced after he had Arthur and my body is breakingdown. The fasting gives me stomach ulcer (i even visited a doctor just recently), and every workout leaves me aching, with surprise injuries like random Achilles pain. I even bought a massage gun just to survive recovery. Normally I’d bounce back in a couple of weeks, but it’s been six damn months already.

Still, I’m taking small steps. Trust the process..

Well come to your 40s I guess haha. I'm 42, and have had similar issues. I have heartburn from all sorts of food, and sometimes from fasting, and I get Achilles issues as well. Do calf raises (2 legs, and single legs, then progress to weighted).

The thing about my intermittent fasting routine is that I always start the day with two cups of black coffee on an empty stomach. It really helps suppress hunger, and it worked well for me for about five years.

But I took a break from it for about a year, moved to a new country, stopped playing basketball, and spent most of my time taking care of my wife and our baby. That’s when I put on around 20 pounds.

Now that I’m back to being a bit of a degen by delegating my child to my wife , I’m trying to get back in shape and return to my old healthy habits.

I actually just turned 39. I think taking care of your body really shifts with each phase of life, and I’ve clearly entered a new one. I’m just learning how to adjust and take care of myself differently but im still finding the right routines (I read that I have to do more stretching).

For my Achilles, I’ve been using a massage gun, not directly on it, but around the area, and it actually seems to be helping. I don’t like using straps on my feet, they just feel uncomfortable. And yeah, thanks for the tip about calf raises, I’ve been trying to ease back into leg exercises too. Slow progress, trust the process.