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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1201 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:10 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Prokafors? How can you explain this?

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Sucks that all this data is out there about him...let's brace ourselves for the poor return we're going to get.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1202 » by LloydFree » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:20 pm

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Unbreakable99 wrote:Prokafors? How can you explain this?

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Sucks that all this data is out there about him...let's brace ourselves for the poor return we're going to get.

Yeah, it's a different day. Ten years ago, Jahlil Okafor was Eddie Curry. A big, slow, low-post, big-name, failed former #1 HS player, who many thought would eventually become some team's great interior building block. We would have received a couple lottery picks in return for a guy like this ten years ago, because half the GMs in the league were clueless. But now this information is so readily available, the lowest intern in an NBA front office knows better than to trade anything of value for a player like this.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1203 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:53 pm

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Unbreakable99 wrote:Prokafors? How can you explain this?

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Sucks that all this data is out there about him...let's brace ourselves for the poor return we're going to get.

Yeah, it's a different day. Ten years ago, Jahlil Okafor was Eddie Curry. A big, slow, low-post, big-name, failed former #1 HS player, who many thought would eventually become some team's great interior building block. We would have received a couple lottery picks in return for a guy like this, ten years ago, because half the GMs in the league were clueless. But now this information is so readily available, the lowest intern in an NBA front office knows better than to trade anything of value for a player like this.


We still have Sixer fans who think he can bring value back and think even getting a non lottery 1st round pick back for him is not enough value.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1204 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:43 pm

LOL! Those Okafor stats are a result of him playing out of position at center while on the court cursed with non NBA point guards. How good did Embiid look when he played out of position at PF with non NBA point guards? :nonono:
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1205 » by dbodner » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:33 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:LOL! Those Okafor stats are a result of him playing out of position at center while on the court cursed with non NBA point guards. How good did Embiid look when he played out of position at PF with non NBA point guards? :nonono:


Wait you think Okafor is a pf.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1206 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:52 pm

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SelfishPlayer wrote:LOL! Those Okafor stats are a result of him playing out of position at center while on the court cursed with non NBA point guards. How good did Embiid look when he played out of position at PF with non NBA point guards? :nonono:


Wait you think Okafor is a pf.


Yes he's a PF built for dominating wimpy stretch 4's like Ersan and Dario that proliferate NBA rosters these days.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1207 » by LloydFree » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:31 pm

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LloydFree wrote:
sixers238 wrote:
Sucks that all this data is out there about him...let's brace ourselves for the poor return we're going to get.

Yeah, it's a different day. Ten years ago, Jahlil Okafor was Eddie Curry. A big, slow, low-post, big-name, failed former #1 HS player, who many thought would eventually become some team's great interior building block. We would have received a couple lottery picks in return for a guy like this, ten years ago, because half the GMs in the league were clueless. But now this information is so readily available, the lowest intern in an NBA front office knows better than to trade anything of value for a player like this.


We still have Sixer fans who think he can bring value back and think even getting a non lottery 1st round pick back for him is not enough value.


The league on a whole is a lot smarter, but I'm going to hold out hope that there is a sucker out there. After all, there is someone out there who payed Evan Turner 72 million, another who selected Buddy Heild in the top 6 of an NBA draft and Ernie Grunfeld is still employed. There is still hope.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1208 » by PhilasFinest » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:00 pm

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SelfishPlayer wrote:LOL! Those Okafor stats are a result of him playing out of position at center while on the court cursed with non NBA point guards. How good did Embiid look when he played out of position at PF with non NBA point guards? :nonono:


Wait you think Okafor is a pf.


Yes he's a PF built for dominating wimpy stretch 4's like Ersan and Dario that proliferate NBA rosters these days.


Dominating wimpy stretch 4's on offense and letting them shoot wide open shots on defense.

Makes a little more sense now.
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Post#1209 » by PhilasFinest » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:08 pm

The Sixers are 1-5 when starting Embiid and Okafor.

They are 4-5 when starting Embiid and Ilyasova.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#1210 » by thenbaman » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:15 pm

To his credit this is a screwed up team,he may have been kat had
he been selected somewhere else,heck even the sixer fans can't
support there own players.
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Post#1211 » by TTP » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:20 pm

thenbaman wrote:To his credit this is a screwed up team,he may have been kat had
he been selected somewhere else,heck even the sixer fans can't
support there own players.


Why are the Sixers +1.4 points per 100 possessions with Embiid on the floor and Okafor off this year on this same screwed up team? The Sixers are -24.4 with them on the floor together and -12.7 with only Okafor.

Towns was a far better prospect than Okafor. There's no chance he looks anything like Okafor does now on this team. Great players make their teams better.

I would have expected Embiid's dominance on the same awful Sixers team would put that argument to rest.
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Post#1212 » by neno » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:20 pm

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Unbreakable99 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Yeah, it's a different day. Ten years ago, Jahlil Okafor was Eddie Curry. A big, slow, low-post, big-name, failed former #1 HS player, who many thought would eventually become some team's great interior building block. We would have received a couple lottery picks in return for a guy like this, ten years ago, because half the GMs in the league were clueless. But now this information is so readily available, the lowest intern in an NBA front office knows better than to trade anything of value for a player like this.


We still have Sixer fans who think he can bring value back and think even getting a non lottery 1st round pick back for him is not enough value.


The league on a whole is a lot smarter, but I'm going to hold out hope that there is a sucker out there. After all, there is someone out there who payed Evan Turner 72 million, another who selected Buddy Heild in the top 6 of an NBA draft and Ernie Grunfeld is still employed. There is still hope.

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Post#1213 » by LloydFree » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:22 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:The Sixers are 1-5 when starting Embiid and Okafor.

They are 4-5 when starting Embiid and Ilyasova.


I miss Jerami Grant... Colangelo sabotaged what could have been some great alternatives to pair with Embiid and Simmons, with that move. What was he thinking...
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Post#1214 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:26 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
dbodner wrote:
Wait you think Okafor is a pf.


Yes he's a PF built for dominating wimpy stretch 4's like Ersan and Dario that proliferate NBA rosters these days.


Dominating wimpy stretch 4's on offense and letting them shoot wide open shots on defense.

Makes a little more sense now.


Okafor defended Kevin Love well...
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Post#1215 » by TTP » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:32 pm

Edit: Didn't realize this was posted already.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1216 » by Ericb5 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:33 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Prokafors? How can you explain this?

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What is it about your personality that you need to keep making the same point over and over again? I mean, you are like a scorned woman trying to take a pound of flesh in an argument.

You are just looking for things to use to bait people into a fight. Ooh, I found another thing that supports my claim. I'm going to post it on a message board and see who I can get to fight with me.

How about we just stop belaboring the same points over and over. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, and you are just pursuing high fives from people that you agree with.




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Post#1217 » by FKAri » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:44 pm

thenbaman wrote:To his credit this is a screwed up team,he may have been kat had
he been selected somewhere else
,heck even the sixer fans can't
support there own players.

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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1218 » by TTP » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:50 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Prokafors? How can you explain this?

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What is it about your personality that you need to keep making the same point over and over again? I mean, you are like a scorned woman trying to take a pound of flesh in an argument.

You are just looking for things to use to bait people into a fight. Ooh, I found another thing that supports my claim. I'm going to post it on a message board and see who I can get to fight with me.

How about we just stop belaboring the same points over and over. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, and you are just pursuing high fives from people that you agree with.




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Some of that is new information (the fact that we're a near-playoff team without him).

Regardless, if Prokafors are going to keep posting their arguments for him (as SelfishPlayer and thenbaman have done on the previous page), it's certainly reasonable for the opposite side of the debate to present their counterarguments.

Posts like yours are worse than the posts you are complaining about. You (not just you specifically) freak out about the anti-Okafor people posting stats and evidence, claiming that they are making the same points over and over again and aren't convincing anyone. However, the same point can be made for the Prokafors that are posting the same repeated arguments, only it's even worse because it's frequently without data. Yet your post (and the post from the guy in the game thread last night) target only posters on one side of the debate.
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Post#1219 » by LloydFree » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:54 pm

TTP wrote:
thenbaman wrote:To his credit this is a screwed up team,he may have been kat had
he been selected somewhere else,heck even the sixer fans can't
support there own players.


Why are the Sixers +1.4 points per 100 possessions with Embiid on the floor and Okafor off this year on this same screwed up team? The Sixers are -24.4 with them on the floor together and -12.7 with only Okafor.

Towns was a far better prospect than Okafor. There's no chance he looks anything like Okafor does now on this team. Great players make their teams better.

I would have expected Embiid's dominance on the same awful Sixers team would put that argument to rest.

It a waste of breath. The only guys trying to make these ridiculous arguments are the same guys who were trying to make the argument that Okafor was better than Towns before the 2015 draft OR we're celebrating the pick at the time of the draft. It's not about what's good for the team anymore, it's about justifying previous opinions. Now that it's clear they were incorrect, the most stubborn have decided that the best course of action, is to take the sanctimonious position of the "true faithful fan". Instead of just saying, "I thought he was going to be a better player, I was wrong" it makes them feel better to say, "I'm a better fan than you, so there."
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1220 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 12:02 am

TTP wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Prokafors? How can you explain this?

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What is it about your personality that you need to keep making the same point over and over again? I mean, you are like a scorned woman trying to take a pound of flesh in an argument.

You are just looking for things to use to bait people into a fight. Ooh, I found another thing that supports my claim. I'm going to post it on a message board and see who I can get to fight with me.

How about we just stop belaboring the same points over and over. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, and you are just pursuing high fives from people that you agree with.




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Some of that is new information (the fact that we're a near-playoff team without him).

Regardless, if Prokafors are going to keep posting their arguments for him (as SelfishPlayer and thenbaman have done on the previous page), it's certainly reasonable for the opposite side of the debate to present their counterarguments.

Posts like yours are worse than the posts you are complaining about. You (not just you specifically) freak out about the anti-Okafor people posting stats and evidence, claiming that they are making the same points over and over again and aren't convincing anyone. However, the same point can be made for the Prokafors that are posting the same repeated arguments, only it's even worse because it's frequently without data. Yet your post (and the post from the guy in the game thread last night) target only posters on one side of the debate.


I believe that Okafor doesn't work with Embiid, and should be traded, so I basically agree with him. The problem is that he is argumentative as opposed to being an advocate of his position.

He is one of the many argumentative people on this board that just go around and around in circles making the same points trying to bait people into fights for his personal amusement.

I honestly can't think of any reason other than trying to pick a fight to go grab something from somewhere else and post it again, to say the game thing again.

He isn't trying to convince the other side. His statement of something like "what are the prokafors going to say" is a dead give away that all he wants to do is get high fives from his side of the argument. He is trying to light a fire, so he can bask in the glow.

He is literally talking to the people that agree with him, while mocking people that don't. That is trolling.




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