Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1

[Negrodamus]

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Hell yea. He'll be a great mentor to Ace.

[FlyingArrow]

Keep the pick.

Then we are set for another full decade of heartbreak.

Year 1 just happened: PG and Embiid both hurt before the playoffs. Miss the playoffs
Year 2: Only one of them is hurt for the playoffs. 2nd round exit.
Year 3: The other one is hurt for the playoffs. 2nd round exit.
Year 4: They're both finally healthy for the playoffs! They're 33 and 37, but by now we have Maxey at age 27, McCain at 23, and #3 at 21. Still not enough to make the finals. ECF exit.
Year 5: PG is gone. Embiid is 34. And as our trio matures, we still have a 2nd round exit.

The next year we see Maxey at 29, McCain at 25, and #3 at 23. Prime/peak years for all 3, but they've missed Embiid's window. A great, homegrown core that keeps us in the playoffs and out of the NBA finals for another 5 years.

[zaz102]

Am I the only one that expects PG to be a productive player next season, similar enough to his '23-'24 version, that he should be able to help the team win games and be a positive value contract?

[76ciology]

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Hell yea. He'll be a great mentor to Ace.

What he said is true. Except in the playoffs when they allow a lot of physicality.

[76ciology]

Am I the only one that expects PG to be a productive player next season, similar enough to his '23-'24 version, that he should be able to help the team win games and be a positive value contract?

I think he was load managing all season, playing not to get hurt, almost like he was on a Nike tour in Asia. I wouldn’t be surprised if the team knew about Jojo’s knee issues from the very start of the season, maybe even earlier.

[Mik317]

yeah PG saw the writing on the wall and checked out. The finger thing just made it even easier to do

[M2J]

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Hell yea. He'll be a great mentor to Ace.

What he said is true. Except in the playoffs when they allow a lot of physicality.

I don't believe there's been shut down defenders ever... Always requires a team. In the playoffs, teams load up to allow their best defenders to force tough shots or passes. Which is why spacing is so important. Pretty much all title teams since the bulls have had great spacing, but today spacing is at a different level with 5 out ability or at least a center for vertical spacing.

[SixthStreet]

I think how George looks is tied to how Embiid looks. If Embiid’s play gives rise to the hope of a contender, then George will look good. If not, he’ll float out there like this past year.

[M2J]

I think how George looks is tied to how Embiid looks. If Embiid’s play gives rise to the hope of a contender, then George will look good. If not, he’ll float out there like this past year.

That's true of the team. I believe in large due to Nurse not being willing or able to adjust his system without Joel. It's built around an offensive hub in the mid to high post and DHO decision maker. When Joel wasn't there, which was always, George played that role. I never bit George's head off because it's Nurse's fault in large that this roster doesn't play well without stars. I think Jared thrived because he knew so little of the system that Nick just let him go out and play. Pick and roll and faster until Joel got there and they sucked and Joel was cursing him out.

[the_process]

I think how George looks is tied to how Embiid looks. If Embiid’s play gives rise to the hope of a contender, then George will look good. If not, he’ll float out there like this past year.

That's true of the team. I believe in large due to Nurse not being willing or able to adjust his system without Joel. It's built around an offensive hub in the mid to high post and DHO decision maker. When Joel wasn't there, which was always, George played that role. I never bit George's head off because it's Nurse's fault in large that this roster doesn't play well without stars. I think Jared thrived because he knew so little of the system that Nick just let him go out and play. Pick and roll and faster until Joel got there and they sucked and Joel was cursing him out.

This is a big part of why Embiid needs to go.

[M2J]

I think how George looks is tied to how Embiid looks. If Embiid’s play gives rise to the hope of a contender, then George will look good. If not, he’ll float out there like this past year.

That's true of the team. I believe in large due to Nurse not being willing or able to adjust his system without Joel. It's built around an offensive hub in the mid to high post and DHO decision maker. When Joel wasn't there, which was always, George played that role. I never bit George's head off because it's Nurse's fault in large that this roster doesn't play well without stars. I think Jared thrived because he knew so little of the system that Nick just let him go out and play. Pick and roll and faster until Joel got there and they sucked and Joel was cursing him out.

This is a big part of why Embiid needs to go.

Nurse fits only with Embiid. It's the same system he had in Toronto with Pascal in that spot. If Joel doesn't play next year, they have to have a capable assistant ready to take over for the Nurse

[the_process]

That's true of the team. I believe in large due to Nurse not being willing or able to adjust his system without Joel. It's built around an offensive hub in the mid to high post and DHO decision maker. When Joel wasn't there, which was always, George played that role. I never bit George's head off because it's Nurse's fault in large that this roster doesn't play well without stars. I think Jared thrived because he knew so little of the system that Nick just let him go out and play. Pick and roll and faster until Joel got there and they sucked and Joel was cursing him out.

This is a big part of why Embiid needs to go.

Nurse fits only with Embiid. It's the same system he had in Toronto with Pascal in that spot. If Joel doesn't play next year, they have to have a capable assistant ready to take over for the Nurse

Meh. He was supposed to be the mad scientist guy who tries anything and everything. He can burn another year off his contract and then be re-evaluated. I’m ready for Morey to be re-evaluated as well, especially if he just takes Bailey at 3.

[PhillyNj]

Keep the pick.

Then we are set for another full decade of heartbreak.

Year 1 just happened: PG and Embiid both hurt before the playoffs. Miss the playoffs
Year 2: Only one of them is hurt for the playoffs. 2nd round exit.
Year 3: The other one is hurt for the playoffs. 2nd round exit.
Year 4: They're both finally healthy for the playoffs! They're 33 and 37, but by now we have Maxey at age 27, McCain at 23, and #3 at 21. Still not enough to make the finals. ECF exit.
Year 5: PG is gone. Embiid is 34. And as our trio matures, we still have a 2nd round exit.

The next year we see Maxey at 29, McCain at 25, and #3 at 23. Prime/peak years for all 3, but they've missed Embiid's window. A great, homegrown core that keeps us in the playoffs and out of the NBA finals for another 5 years.

Cheer up. It’s really not that bad. Number one! It’s just a game.

[M2J]

This is a big part of why Embiid needs to go.

Nurse fits only with Embiid. It's the same system he had in Toronto with Pascal in that spot. If Joel doesn't play next year, they have to have a capable assistant ready to take over for the Nurse

Meh. He was supposed to be the mad scientist guy who tries anything and everything. He can burn another year off his contract and then be re-evaluated. I’m ready for Morey to be re-evaluated as well, especially if he just takes Bailey at 3.

Gotta disagree with the idea of riding out the year with Nurse if they gave injuries again from Joel. They are unlikely to keep their pick next 2 years, therefore missing the playoffs is not good and Nurse the last 2 years has proven he can't adapt to Maxey or others without his mid post hub and they crater to the bottom of the NBA.

Crater I say, he's horrid without Joel. Great with him though

[the_process]

Nurse fits only with Embiid. It's the same system he had in Toronto with Pascal in that spot. If Joel doesn't play next year, they have to have a capable assistant ready to take over for the Nurse

Meh. He was supposed to be the mad scientist guy who tries anything and everything. He can burn another year off his contract and then be re-evaluated. I’m ready for Morey to be re-evaluated as well, especially if he just takes Bailey at 3.

Gotta disagree with the idea of riding out the year with Nurse if they gave injuries again from Joel. They are unlikely to keep their pick next 2 years, therefore missing the playoffs is not good and Nurse the last 2 years has proven he can't adapt to Maxey or others without his mid post hub and they crater to the bottom of the NBA.

Crater I say, he's horrid without Joel. Great with him though

There's no choice. Harris isn't paying three dead years on Nurse.

Two, maybe.

[M2J]

Meh. He was supposed to be the mad scientist guy who tries anything and everything. He can burn another year off his contract and then be re-evaluated. I’m ready for Morey to be re-evaluated as well, especially if he just takes Bailey at 3.

Gotta disagree with the idea of riding out the year with Nurse if they gave injuries again from Joel. They are unlikely to keep their pick next 2 years, therefore missing the playoffs is not good and Nurse the last 2 years has proven he can't adapt to Maxey or others without his mid post hub and they crater to the bottom of the NBA.

Crater I say, he's horrid without Joel. Great with him though

There's no choice. Harris isn't paying three dead years on Nurse.

Two, maybe.

If he can keep them on pace to make the playoffs sure. Another one of these years or similar starts to last season or early 2024 without Joel and there's no choice. Nurse Lucky he survived this season

[the_process]

Gotta disagree with the idea of riding out the year with Nurse if they gave injuries again from Joel. They are unlikely to keep their pick next 2 years, therefore missing the playoffs is not good and Nurse the last 2 years has proven he can't adapt to Maxey or others without his mid post hub and they crater to the bottom of the NBA.

Crater I say, he's horrid without Joel. Great with him though

There's no choice. Harris isn't paying three dead years on Nurse.

Two, maybe.

If he can keep them on pace to make the playoffs sure. Another one of these years or similar starts to last season or early 2024 without Joel and there's no choice. Nurse Lucky he survived this season

When Joel only plays 20 games again, and they go 38-44 and lose in the play-in… I mean, again you can’t play two styles at once. Nurse has been underwhelming but this is the part where the franchise player is ending. It’s an awkward transition phase.

[M2J]

There's no choice. Harris isn't paying three dead years on Nurse.

Two, maybe.

If he can keep them on pace to make the playoffs sure. Another one of these years or similar starts to last season or early 2024 without Joel and there's no choice. Nurse Lucky he survived this season

When Joel only plays 20 games again, and they go 38-44 and lose in the play-in… I mean, again you can’t play two styles at once. Nurse has been underwhelming but this is the part where the franchise player is ending. It’s an awkward transition phase.

Doc did.

But he just needs to let the youth play faster without Joel... He doesn't and it's a problem

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[the_process]

If he can keep them on pace to make the playoffs sure. Another one of these years or similar starts to last season or early 2024 without Joel and there's no choice. Nurse Lucky he survived this season

When Joel only plays 20 games again, and they go 38-44 and lose in the play-in… I mean, again you can’t play two styles at once. Nurse has been underwhelming but this is the part where the franchise player is ending. It’s an awkward transition phase.

Doc did.

But he just needs to let the youth play faster without Joel... He doesn't and it's a problem

I didn't really think all bench lineups count as a different style of play?

They definitely need to play with more pace. If George and Embiid can't keep up, sayonara.