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Post#1201 » by Negrodamus » Sat Jun 7, 2025 8:18 pm

Do you say anything else other than "Ace is the pick" or some iteration of that sentiment?
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Post#1202 » by Negrodamus » Sat Jun 7, 2025 8:33 pm

VJ Edgecombe against top defenses:

Tennessee: 20pts (3/6 3FG, 5/10 2FG) 3 ast, 2 stls, 1 blk
Houston: 14pts (5/5 FG, 4/4 FT) 6rebs, 3ast, 2stls, 5 to
Houston: 23pts (2/6 3FG, 4/8 2FG, 9/10 FT) 5 rebs, 2ast, 3stls
Duke: 16pts (1/5 3FG, 5/7 2FG, 3/5FT) 6 rebs, 1 ast, 1 stl

Pretty impressive tbh. Up and down 3pt shooting.
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Post#1203 » by Negrodamus » Sat Jun 7, 2025 8:45 pm

I think Edgecombe will be the pick if we make it. I'm not ready to say final answer, but feel pretty confident with that prediction.
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Post#1204 » by okboomer » Sat Jun 7, 2025 9:06 pm

Negrodamus wrote:VJ Edgecombe against top defenses:

Tennessee: 20pts (3/6 3FG, 5/10 2FG) 3 ast, 2 stls, 1 blk
Houston: 14pts (5/5 FG, 4/4 FT) 6rebs, 3ast, 2stls, 5 to
Houston: 23pts (2/6 3FG, 4/8 2FG, 9/10 FT) 5 rebs, 2ast, 3stls
Duke: 16pts (1/5 3FG, 5/7 2FG, 3/5FT) 6 rebs, 1 ast, 1 stl

Pretty impressive tbh. Up and down 3pt shooting.


I watched the entire Baylor/Duke game yesterday cause I wanted to see him and Kon. I dont think he had a great game per say but he had a bunch of plays where you could see glimpses of his athleticism. There was one rebound in particular in the 1st half. I think he will be the pick and will be very good. How good is another question.
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Post#1205 » by Redemption76 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 9:20 pm

I will be very disappointed if VJ is the pick. High athleticism, low BBIQ. Watch the YouTube on the preceding page to see his foolish forays into the paint-and in most of them he can’t get into the paint with no craft, just straight line speed. NBA defenders will eat his lunch.

He will be a plus defender but you don’t pick someone at 3 for that.

I’m leaning towards moving down and winding up with Herb Jones and Noa Essengue. I’d be VERY happy with that. Two great defenders at a vital position, both can shoot and rebound as well.

Edgecombe screams one way player to me. And we already have one way guards on this team.

This should be a Red Bull draft-

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Post#1206 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Jun 7, 2025 9:55 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I think Edgecombe will be the pick if we make it. I'm not ready to say final answer, but feel pretty confident with that prediction.


I already put money down on it lol. Strong analytics, on a successful college team, great personality, and strong work ethic.
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Post#1207 » by mjkvol » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:13 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I feel so bad while watching CMB. He totally clamps the **** out of Broome (3-11 6pts) the entire game and the rest of his team provides zero support. Him against UF, he's switching between their two bigs and gives good rim protection but no one else on SC is interested in rebounding. It must be disheartening to work like a dog on defense, force a miss basket, and then the other team gets the offensive reb and easy bucket.

CMB is a nasty switchable defender. Easily best defender in the lottery.


I'd love to get a pick in the teens in a trade down and pair it with #35 to move up and get CMB. Kid is a beast.
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Post#1208 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:25 pm

Who’s a better prospect between Fultz and Harper?
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Post#1209 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:30 pm

Nba upside not college the pick will be Ace..
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Post#1210 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:41 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:What if...

...someone gets to CMB and teaches him how to shoot?

He already has the youth, length, scoring, rebounding, playmaking, defense.


I was looking for you to answer this before: does he count as Brolic archetype?

Sadly, he does. He definitely would need to wear a tshirt at the pool.
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Post#1211 » by zaz102 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:43 pm

76ciology wrote:Who’s a better prospect between Fultz and Harper?
I think they're pretty close to even. If I had to choose, I probably would pick Fultz due to better 3 point shooting.
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Post#1212 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:45 pm

76ciology wrote:Who’s a better prospect between Fultz and Harper?

Easily Fultz. Markelle was a phenom prospect.
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Post#1213 » by sodmoraes » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:45 pm

76ciology wrote:Who’s a better prospect between Fultz and Harper?


Looking only by the numbers its fultz easily for me. Scored way more, 2 more assists per game and shot way better from 3. Fultz seems bigger too. Both played in crappy teams and shot badly from ft line( 69 X 75%). I think markelle would have been a pretty good player if his "shoulder thing" didnt happen..
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Post#1214 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 7, 2025 10:53 pm

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76ciology wrote:Who’s a better prospect between Fultz and Harper?
I think they're pretty close to even. If I had to choose, I probably would pick Fultz due to better 3 point shooting.


At first I also thought they were close but after looking at their numbers, I now dont think they were close.

For example, Fultz averaging 23 PPG as a freshman is super impressive, he also shot 41% from three. The top-scoring freshman this year is Tre, and he’s at 19.9 PPG. Fultz also had a 35% AST rate, which is crazy good for a primary scorer averaging that much points. On top of that, he put up solid stocks numbers too: 2.5 STL% and 3.1 BLK%.

Sure, Fultz shoots 65FT%, but Harper shoots below 30% on off the dribble 3s and mid range. 31% on mid range and 30% from 3s. Harper also has big questions about his shot.
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Post#1215 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:03 pm

Fultz' defensive numbers were insane. He was like Dame Lillard on offense and Derrick White on defense. Beyond ridiculous that he busted.
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Post#1216 » by okboomer » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:05 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Fultz' defensive numbers were insane. He was like Dame Lillard on offense and Derrick White on defense. Beyond ridiculous that he busted.

Easy to type now though maybe the Collar didnt do enough work or just overlooked his mental makeup. That's usually a huge part of whether someone succeeds or not.
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Post#1217 » by SixersSince82 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:08 pm

Arsenal wrote:There's no doubt the first half of next season will be devoted to a pump and dump scheme on Embiid and George.

As soon as either one has a healthy stretch of play to rehab their value we gotta be ready to pull the trigger.


I agree this is what should happen but I sure don't think that will be Morey's mindset. The only way he trades Joel is if the team looks notably better playing without him for a long stretch... which is possible but would require a lot from Maxey, Grimes & McCain.
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Post#1218 » by SixersSince82 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:20 pm

76ciology wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Bro, you get out there at times. This is one of those times. We aren't showcasing Embiid and George. This isn't going to be any different next season. Both are going to continue missing significant amounts of time. There is no "switch" to flip with this team. The future starts over on draft night.


I believe he was being facetious.


Daryl Morey doesn’t sell low. He got Kevin Martin for a washed-up T-Mac. He turned a disgruntled, on-his-way-out James Harden into multiple first-round picks and cap space that eventually helped land Paul George.

There’s no way Morey’s just going to fold, admit he’s not competing, that’s already like announcing George and Embiid are done. That’s negotiating from a position of weakness. He’ll push the illusion of contention to keep leverage, then strike when the return is at its peak.

Like it or not, the Sixers would be foolish not to go all-in next season, because the East is wide open. No one’s taking this Pacers team seriously as a real contender. If anything, their deep run just highlights how soft the conference is right now.



I agree the east is wide open. But foolish would be to believe that means a team lead by Joel Embiid actually has a chance.

There's 0% chance he's healthy over a 4 series championship run. Even if he were to remain healthy there's 0% chance he throttles back his offense game enough for Nurse to create a dynamic enough offense to compete for a championship.

Having said that, It's likely Morey will be foolish.
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Post#1219 » by sodmoraes » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:41 pm

Is it even worthy trading Embiid or PG? It will be a really bad trade for us anyways, i think they are sunk costs: we gotta wait them expire while we kinda rebuild. I think our window has closed, thats why we need to make right with this pick. Our only chance to compete now is if , by a miracle, Embiid is back to atleast 70-80% the player he was and can play atleast 60 games. If hes back PG will have a good year too, and we will be in the mix, since the east is kinda open. But the chance of that happening seems pretty low sadly, i think we will never see the Big Fella playing close to his prime again... :(
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Post#1220 » by zaz102 » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:05 am

sodmoraes wrote:Is it even worthy trading Embiid or PG? It will be a really bad trade for us anyways, i think they are sunk costs: we gotta wait them expire while we kinda rebuild. I think our window has closed, thats why we need to make right with this pick. Our only chance to compete now is if , by a miracle, Embiid is back to atleast 70-80% the player he was and can play atleast 60 games. If hes back PG will have a good year too, and we will be in the mix, since the east is kinda open. But the chance of that happening seems pretty low sadly, i think we will never see the Big Fella playing close to his prime again... :(
It's definitely not worth trading Embiid or PG now. You'd would be paying assets to dump them for cap space sooner that won't really help much.

I see a world where if Embiid isn't healthy, the Sixers are not contenders, and PG is playing well that Morey would trade PG to a contender at the deadline for assets.

I see no world where Embiid is traded. He is either dust and untradeable or he plays well and will be focal point of the team. Even if I personally wanted to trade him before the other shoe dropped, I dont think Morey would.

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