Joel Embiid

[Negrodamus]

Hey, this guy is back. Hopefully I'm still on "block" for him although he could have lied about that too.

[zaz102]

The team doesn't fit. It's not just Simmons. Here's a good article from this very site you all should read.

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/263063/The-End-Of-The-Embiid-Simmons-Sixers-Mess

I'll bite. What's your move/ideas to improve the team?

[syntax]

The team doesn't fit. It's not just Simmons. Here's a good article from this very site you all should read.

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/263063/The-End-Of-The-Embiid-Simmons-Sixers-Mess

I'll bite. What's your move/ideas to improve the team?

Tell Embiid to stop playing like he's Kevin Durant (yes he's said he wants to play like KD) and learn how to coexist in an offense with his teammates without turning the ball over constantly.

Embiid is 5th on the team in points generated from assists... FIFTH!

Dwight and SImmons both had double the amount of dunks Embiid had during the season.

Embiid is 13th on the team when it comes to taking shots at the rim. There are 13 more players on the Sixers roster somehow, who shoot more of their shots at the rim than Embiid does. That is crazy. Shoots more long 2s than anyone.

The only time the Sixers look good is when their defense is smothering teams and it's driving their high pace offense.

[cool93]

Can we create a Ben Simmons board, so this delusional fan boys can go away?

Like, if you actually watch Sixers games you see just how harmful is Simmons to his partners in halfcourt offence. Not zero, literally worse.

[syntax]

Can we create a Ben Simmons board, so this delusional fan boys can go away?

Like, if you actually watch Sixers games you see just how harmful is Simmons to his partners in halfcourt offence. Not zero, literally worse.

Well the stats say Simmons generated 1010 points for his teammates from assists. Double the next player which is Toby with 500ish.

[cool93]

Can we create a Ben Simmons board, so this delusional fan boys can go away?

Like, if you actually watch Sixers games you see just how harmful is Simmons to his partners in halfcourt offence. Not zero, literally worse.

Well the stats say Simmons generated 1010 points for his teammates from assists. Double the next player which is Toby with 500ish.

It's not hard when team literally don't have starting level PG. And I bet most of those generated points were either in transition or a handoff for slightle contested 3.

All Ben does as PG against set up defence - brings the ball, stops around the ft line, gives the ball up and goes clogs up the lane for others.

[syntax]

Can we create a Ben Simmons board, so this delusional fan boys can go away?

Like, if you actually watch Sixers games you see just how harmful is Simmons to his partners in halfcourt offence. Not zero, literally worse.

Well the stats say Simmons generated 1010 points for his teammates from assists. Double the next player which is Toby with 500ish.

It's not hard when team literally don't have starting level PG. And I bet most of those generated points were either in transition or a handoff for slightle contested 3.

All Ben does as PG against set up defence - brings the ball, stops around the ft line, gives the ball up and goes clogs up the lane for others.

How do you explain the teams (and leagues) highest usage player having four more guys on the team generate more assists than he does? What is the stand around and watch Embiid show doing for the other four players on the court?

[zaz102]

The team doesn't fit. It's not just Simmons. Here's a good article from this very site you all should read.

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/263063/The-End-Of-The-Embiid-Simmons-Sixers-Mess

I'll bite. What's your move/ideas to improve the team?

Tell Embiid to stop playing like he's Kevin Durant (yes he's said he wants to play like KD) and learn how to coexist in an offense with his teammates without turning the ball over constantly.

Embiid is 5th on the team in points generated from assists... FIFTH!

Dwight and SImmons both had double the amount of dunks Embiid had during the season.

Embiid is 13th on the team when it comes to taking shots at the rim. There are 13 more players on the Sixers roster somehow, who shoot more of their shots at the rim than Embiid does. That is crazy. Shoots more long 2s than anyone.

The only time the Sixers look good is when their defense is smothering teams and it's driving their high pace offense.

Embiid is not perfect and can still improve,, but he was 2nd team All-NBA and runner-up in MVP voting. It's hard to imagine him getting significantly better. No offense, but I don't think you'll find many that are going see that as a legitimate path to winning a championship.

I think there needs to be another way and I think there are multiple ways to get there.

And I do think there is one player on the team that if they improve in an obvious way, they would be all-NBA and an MVP candidate. I'll let you guess who that could be...

[syntax]

I'll bite. What's your move/ideas to improve the team?

Tell Embiid to stop playing like he's Kevin Durant (yes he's said he wants to play like KD) and learn how to coexist in an offense with his teammates without turning the ball over constantly.

Embiid is 5th on the team in points generated from assists... FIFTH!

Dwight and SImmons both had double the amount of dunks Embiid had during the season.

Embiid is 13th on the team when it comes to taking shots at the rim. There are 13 more players on the Sixers roster somehow, who shoot more of their shots at the rim than Embiid does. That is crazy. Shoots more long 2s than anyone.

The only time the Sixers look good is when their defense is smothering teams and it's driving their high pace offense.

Embiid is not perfect and can still improve,, but he was 2nd team All-NBA and runner-up in MVP voting. It's hard to imagine him getting significantly better. No offense, but I don't think you'll find many that are going see that as a legitimate path to winning a championship.

I think there needs to be another way and I think there are multiple ways to get there.

And I do think there is one player on the team that if they improve in an obvious way, they would be all-NBA and an MVP candidate. I'll let you guess who that could be...

Could it be the guy with traits you see in other top 10 all-time players like say LeBron? Freakish athletisism, strength, speed, skills, awareness and bball IQ, playing FAST.

[DCasey91]

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

[Kobblehead]

Mentioning skills. Talking about Ben Simmons. Pick one.

[cool93]

How do you explain the teams (and leagues) highest usage player having four more guys on the team generate more assists than he does? What is the stand around and watch Embiid show doing for the other four players on the court?

Embiid is MVP level player who was dominant in playoffs while playing on injured knee. Ben Simmons is a pseudo PG who kills his team on half court offence, doesn't give a **** about improving his shooting form (and actually shoots worse than Shaq), can't touch the ball in clutch, cause he is afraid of being fouled.

I mean, it's not rocket science man, watch some basketball.

[syntax]

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

That was what Daryl Morey said about Simmons in an interview btw.

[Murray_17]

Tell Embiid to stop playing like he's Kevin Durant (yes he's said he wants to play like KD) and learn how to coexist in an offense with his teammates without turning the ball over constantly.

Dude, an Embiid ISO was as efficient this year as a Harden ISO (1.06 ppp vs 1.09 ppp) and before his injury he was scoring 1.6 PPP on isolation, he ended with 0.85 ppp for the entire playoffs.

Even if i conceded your point, an Embiid ISO had a frequency of 13.9% of his possessions that's still less than Harden (44%), Tatum (39%), Lillard, Westbrook, George, Durant, Giannis, Doncic, Mitchell, Kyrie, Lebron, Jrue, Booker, Jordan Clarkson, Leonard, Reggie Jackson, Middleton and Chris Paul.

I already had a discussion with you about Embiid turnovers, he's forced to create for himself on the halfcourt starting from the 3 point line because we don't have creation there. A center leading offense from that point obviously leads to turnovers.

Embiid is 5th on the team in points generated from assists... FIFTH!

Yeah dude, we don't have a halfcourt creator. What do you Expect?

Dwight and SImmons both had double the amount of dunks Embiid had during the season.

Yeah, this is why everyone and his mother knows Dwight and Ben cannot play together, because they collapse the dunker spot.

Embiid and Ben can work sometimes precissely because Joel has a game that allow Ben to hang around the rim

Embiid is 13th on the team when it comes to taking shots at the rim. There are 13 more players on the Sixers roster somehow, who shoot more of their shots at the rim than Embiid does. That is crazy. Shoots more long 2s than anyone.

Embiid share majority of his minutes with Ben, he cannot hang around the rim in the halfcourt, this is one of the most common criticism around the sixers. Have you been following the lasts years or not?.

He's also an elite midrange shoter

Is this really your best Ben argument? are you kidding? Your suggestion would make Ben even more useless on offense

The only time the Sixers look good is when their defense is smothering teams and it's driving their high pace offense.

Sorry, have you see the offensive efficiency rating of the team with and without Embiid?

[syntax]

Tell Embiid to stop playing like he's Kevin Durant (yes he's said he wants to play like KD) and learn how to coexist in an offense with his teammates without turning the ball over constantly.

Dude, an Embiid ISO was as efficient this year as a Harden ISO (1.06 ppp vs 1.09 ppp) and before his injury he was scoring 1.6 PPP on isolation, he ended with 0.85 ppp for the entire playoffs.

Even if i conceded your point, an Embiid ISO had a frequency of 13.9% of his possessions that's still less than Harden (44%), Tatum (39%), Lillard, Westbrook, George, Durant, Giannis, Doncic, Mitchell, Kyrie, Lebron, James, Booker, Jordan Clarkson, Leonard, Reggie Jackson, Middleton and Chris Paul.

I already had a discussion with you about Embiid turnovers, he's forced to create for himself on the halfcourt starting from the 3 point line because we don't have creation there. A center leading offense from that point obviously leads to turnovers.

Embiid is 5th on the team in points generated from assists... FIFTH!

Yeah dude, we don't have a halfcourt creator. What do you Expect?

Dwight and SImmons both had double the amount of dunks Embiid had during the season.

Yeah, this is why everyone and his mother knows Dwight and Ben cannot play together, because they collapse the dunker spot.

Embiid and Ben can work sometimes precissely because Joel has a game that allow Ben to hang around the rim

Embiid is 13th on the team when it comes to taking shots at the rim. There are 13 more players on the Sixers roster somehow, who shoot more of their shots at the rim than Embiid does. That is crazy. Shoots more long 2s than anyone.

Embiid share majority of his minutes with Ben, he cannot hang around the rim in the halfcourt, this is one of the most common criticism around the sixers. Have you been following the lasts years or not?.

He's also an elite midrange shoter

Is this really your best Ben argument? are you kidding?

The only time the Sixers look good is when their defense is smothering teams and it's driving their high pace offense.

Sorry, have you see the offensive efficiency rating of the team with and without Embiid?

Let's take these past playoffs.

Offensive Win Shares was:
Curry 1.2
Embiid 0.7
Simmons 0.7

[Murray_17]

Let's take these past playoffs.

Offensive Win Shares was:
Curry 1.2
Embiid 0.7
Simmons 0.7

Yeah, Simmons took almost 8 shots and scored on almost 5, but he shot poorly from the line. Seth took a ton of 3s on an AMAZING % and Embiid is the focus point of the offense and his efficiency went down with his injury.

This is not a such great point as you think, specially devoid of context.

Let also say that 11 games is not that large of a sample to bring this kind of statistics

[Murray_17]

Can we create a Ben Simmons board, so this delusional fan boys can go away?

Like, if you actually watch Sixers games you see just how harmful is Simmons to his partners in halfcourt offence. Not zero, literally worse.

This go both ways actually.

There are people who only post here to bash Simmons and others that post just to defend him. I'ts absolutely bonkers

[Black Mage]

Can we create a Ben Simmons board, so this delusional fan boys can go away?

Like, if you actually watch Sixers games you see just how harmful is Simmons to his partners in halfcourt offence. Not zero, literally worse.

Well the stats say Simmons generated 1010 points for his teammates from assists. Double the next player which is Toby with 500ish.

I would hope Simmons would generate the most points considering he won't shoot, can't create his own shot, can't breakdown a defense in the half court, cant hit free throws, goes up weak and botches layups and now can't even dunk a ball.

[DCasey91]

Even out of all of this I’d rather pair a high enough score creator/halfcourt operator with Ben then with Harris. Contract + useless overlap

Opens up Embiid’s and Ben’s game. Look I’m pretty low on Ben’s ceiling but 60% FT we are still capable.

CJ is the guard version (better volume, better shooter for me) of Harris. CJ/Ben/Embiid is just better then CJ/Harris/Embiid.

[phillynative]

I honestly rather not go down the ben rabbit hole any more.

Even adding a shot creator he will be in the way hiding from the ball or in the dunker spot clogging the paint.