Joel: unchained.

[Mik317]

I reiterate.

you don't trade MVP caliber players unless they ask to be traded.. flaws and all. Rebuilding is fun and all but we of all people should know that isn't that easy lol. Look at all the picks we have missed on. The only reason we are even allowed to be upset at the current situation is becauase we have Embiid.

yes its frustrating that every **** year he gets hurt....will not say otherwise. But I don't think the answer is ever going to be to trade him IMO. Been using the Tim Duncan comp forever..but yeah building a roster in which he isn't the whole offense and the whole defense would probably be a nice start...and I am sure I will get bu-but other stars tho...but nah thats not the case for them either. Jokic is great but he isn't the defense and honestly that teams ceiling is tied moreso to how hot Murray is IMO. Giannis' has Brook behind him on defense and need Middleton and Jrue to not be ass on offense.

Biid has gotten hurt every year due to having to put out fires on defense and being the whole offense...which leads to series going on for too long.

Now also also...I didn't think we had a chance against the celts even w/ a healthy biid so maybe thats why I am not as appocalyptic as some seem to be. Biid gets his MVP so now we can build a team that doesn't require him to take all the shots.

[rocketsfan100]

Lcl grade 2 sprain is at minimum 3 to 4 weeks on the sideline. If do you comeback earlier the chances of a whole MCL rapture is huge. It’s almost like someone put a bad luck voodoo on poor Joel. I feel so bad for him.

[eyeatoma]

Lcl grade 2 sprain is at minimum 3 to 4 weeks on the sideline. If do you comeback earlier the chances of a whole MCL rapture is huge. It’s almost like someone put a bad luck voodoo on poor Joel. I feel so bad for him.

No confirmation that it's grade 2 though.

[Murray_17]

The Fact Mik is the meassured post in like 3 pages it's telling about how much doomerism there is in this forum at the moment. lol

We weren't the favorites in this series in october, november, dicember, january, february, march or april and we're not the favorite now. That would not be different with or without Biid.

Let see how much fight this group has in them and live with that. Trading, literally, the MVP in the middle of his prime never is a good move

[Bum Adebayo]

It kinda is, though, his value will never be higher. Next year he will be 30 years old and his decline will inevitably start.

[eyeatoma]

It kinda is, though, his value will never be higher. Next year he will be 30 years old and his decline will inevitably start.

Lol, okay, go ahead an play GM. Tell me when a team ever traded an MVP. Do you know the percentage chance it is you have of drafting or trading for an MVP? We have the player that will take you to the chip. We don't know if he'll play game 1? He'll play game 3 at worst. Sixers split, and we're right in this series with Embiid at around 90%. This is such a ridiculous take. All of these trades you want to do, you'll never get a player as good as Jo. Giannis/Jokic/Embiid. The last 5 MVP winners. 3 players out of 100s, and you want to trade one lol. The last time we had a player even close to the level of Jo was AI. That was more than 15 years ago, and ya'll want to break it up right now, because of this ****, so we can wait another 15 years. LMAO!

As others have said, you only trade an MVP if he wants a trade. It's GM 101. This is Rudy Gobert trade level of asinine at this point.

[HardenToSixers]

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[the_process]

This guy is a top 5 MVP level player.

The same guy gets hurt every April like clockwork.

[eyeatoma]

This guy is a top 5 MVP level player.

The same guy gets hurt every April like clockwork.

It's our **** luck. But you still don't trade him, it's a dumb thing to do, when he produces this well. He's less injury prone than KD/Kawhi/LeBron at this point. Even Giannis missed time the last 2 playoffs, because of injuries. This is actually the least severe injury he's had over the last three years.

[MoeGreene]

It seems like the regular season is too long. The NBA will never change but player injuries are going to call for it. These guys just can't take the schedule.

Shorter season = probably healthier players and better playoffs. Gotta take it up with Adam Nosferatu Silver though.

[M2J]

It seems like the regular season is too long. The NBA will never change but player injuries are going to call for it. These guys just can't take the schedule.

Shorter season = probably healthier players and better playoffs. Gotta take it up with Adam Nosferatu Silver though.

Has nothing to do with the regular season in this instance for Joel. They're all fluke injuries that are avoidable typically.

I saw someone say that if you ask Joelto change how he plays, you not getting the same player. I called BS on that specifically.

Joel manages his recklessness throughout the regular season, and when he wants to go on best player in the world stretches...he goes a little bit too hard in certain cases.

Joel plays fine defensively, if not excellent defensively when he's playing it safe. He's other worldly when he goes after every shot and selling out in mid air, at 300+ lbs. I get nervous as you all do when he drives down the lane and tries to dunk through contact as if he's Ja. Joel can literally alter most shots without leaving the ground. But, he tries to showcase his literal dominance in the playoffs, and he needs to pick his spots better.

I don't think a lot of "injury prone"players are prone to it. Many are reckless....DWade. more Anthony Davis is just injury prone.

[Kova]

All of you in favour of moving on from a 29 years old MVP without a current significant career threatening injury should quit watching sports.

Some of us are just tired of the exact same thing happening every year like clockwork, at some point enough is enough. It's not his fault, he is a terrific player, better than Iverson was, but it is what it is, we need to move on because this is not working.
But I also won't blame some fans for wanting to keep trying with Embiid either, maybe next year he has better luck and somehow doesn't get injured who knows...

You'd rather be watching 2003-2016 Sixers games? Give me a break dude.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

All of you in favour of moving on from a 29 years old MVP without a current significant career threatening injury should quit watching sports.

Some of us are just tired of the exact same thing happening every year like clockwork, at some point enough is enough. It's not his fault, he is a terrific player, better than Iverson was, but it is what it is, we need to move on because this is not working.
But I also won't blame some fans for wanting to keep trying with Embiid either, maybe next year he has better luck and somehow doesn't get injured who knows...

You'd rather be watching 2003-2016 Sixers games? Give me a break dude.

How could anyone forget that era? What were we? A 7th seed at best? An 8th seed? The majority of the time a lotto team picking in the 12-13 range. It sucked!

[eyeatoma]

Some of us are just tired of the exact same thing happening every year like clockwork, at some point enough is enough. It's not his fault, he is a terrific player, better than Iverson was, but it is what it is, we need to move on because this is not working.
But I also won't blame some fans for wanting to keep trying with Embiid either, maybe next year he has better luck and somehow doesn't get injured who knows...

You'd rather be watching 2003-2016 Sixers games? Give me a break dude.

How could anyone forget that era? What were we? A 7th seed at best? An 8th seed? The majority of the time a lotto team picking in the 12-13 range. It sucked!

Naw **** that, let's trade our generational player, who just keeps getting unfortunate, non-career threatening injuries, so we can have an even worse chance of making the finals.

[Mik317]

again while it sucks ball in the moment..the fact that we are even able to realistically be mad about second round exits means we aren't as far away as we were pre Biid. I remember just being happy with not getting swept in the first round some years before hoping that our 16th pick could totally become a superstar.

It sucks. But it was worse before

[AI_Efficiency]

To be fair, I kinda think how far you advance/ how many wins you get, doesn’t really matter unless you actually have a legit chance at winning it all. I could see someone saying that if we are never gonna win it all with embiid, who cares that we are making it to the second round. Just delaying the chance, albeit small, that we could find someone who can actually win it all. I get the logic, but I do actually think embiid can get lucky one year and carry us the distance, so I don’t want to trade him. I thought he made the case this year as a best player in the planet type guy. I think there is a universe where he drags a bunch of lesser guys to the promise land. At least its worth it to try for that rather than start over imo.

[eyeatoma]

To be fair, I kinda think how far you advance/ how many wins you get, doesn’t really matter unless you actually have a legit chance at winning it all. I could see someone saying that if we are never gonna win it all with embiid, who cares that we are making it to the second round. Just delaying the chance, albeit small, that we could find someone who can actually win it all. I get the logic, but I do actually think embiid can get lucky one year and carry us the distance, so I don’t want to trade him. I thought he made the case this year as a best player in the planet type guy. I think there is a universe where he drags a bunch of lesser guys to the promise land. At least its worth it to try for that rather than start over imo.

Exactly, you only get so many shots at this with an MVP caliber player, we have had about 2-3 really good shots, and probably have another 2-3 left in the chamber, why waste those, so you don't even have a gun to shoot those shots with. Bad analogy, but you get the point lol.

[SixthStreet]

I think it's insane to trade Joel unless he asks.

[Jamel_Embiiden]

I’m way against trading Embiid. If the Thunder come calling with Chet, Giddey, and a boatload of firsts I at least consider it. Flip Harden and one of those picks for Green and build with them and Tyrese.

[Kova]

Let's just stop feeding the trolls. G1 is tonight. With or without Jo, go Sixers!