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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1221 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:43 am

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Post#1222 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:20 am

What if Jeff Van Gundy replaces Thibs? :lol:

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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1223 » by Kobblehead » Wed Jun 4, 2025 11:31 am

Bucks should have never gotten rid of Mike Budenholzer
Nuggets should have never gotten rid of Mike Malone

Kinda feels like the Knicks mad a bad call here, as well.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1224 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:58 pm

If this series is an OKC sweep it wouldn't surprise me, and if the Pacers made it a six or seven game series it wouldn't surprise me either. So many variables involved, but it just appears that OKC is a better and maybe deeper version of IND, and the fast pace and pressure defense plays right into their hands.

If I had to say, it will be OKC in five, as they are going to make Haliburton's life miserable. It will take Carlisle's greatest coaching job and some lights out shooting to extend this series.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1225 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:33 pm

I know everyone in your city likes to cry into their breakfast about Mikal Bridges every morning, but he's been pretty mediocre for two straight seasons and needs a pay raise. If we're in cap hell (we are), they're about to go beyond that.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1226 » by GoSixersBro » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:38 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Bucks should have never gotten rid of Mike Budenholzer
Nuggets should have never gotten rid of Mike Malone

Kinda feels like the Knicks mad a bad call here, as well.


Pro sports from NBA to NHL, top league in Euro football, etc. have made coaches the easy scapegoat to fire to show the fanbase that something was done in response to failing to win, even when it doesn't make sense. Lord I have seen it enough over the past 11 years with Man United while the owners intentionally ignore the actual problem which in most cases is themselves or under performing yet overpaid players who wield too much power.

Maybe this is how it's always been going back before I begun watching sports in the late 90's, but now it seems exacerbated. Thibs has gotten a lot of heat at all his stops in the NBA, but the Knicks were a clown franchise for 20 years and firing him after this incredible sudden success seems like a CEO appeasing the shareholders with a "look we're doing something" move. In my opinion, their offseason player moves made them weaker, or at the very least kept them the same.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1227 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:46 pm

Stanford wrote:I know everyone in your city likes to cry into their breakfast about Mikal Bridges every morning, but he's been pretty mediocre for two straight seasons and needs a pay raise. If we're in cap hell (we are), they're about to go beyond that.


Knicks blew it with the offseason moves last summer. Before that they were in excellent position for a sustained run. Now like you say, they're gonna get broken up due to the luxury tax and are asset poor. And now firing the only coach who made them relevant for a quarter century.

They're finished!
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Post#1228 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:55 pm

mjkvol wrote:If this series is an OKC sweep it wouldn't surprise me, and if the Pacers made it a six or seven game series it wouldn't surprise me either. So many variables involved, but it just appears that OKC is a better and maybe deeper version of IND, and the fast pace and pressure defense plays right into their hands.

If I had to say, it will be OKC in five, as they are going to make Haliburton's life miserable. It will take Carlisle's greatest coaching job and some lights out shooting to extend this series.


The only way it’s a real series imo is if the Thunder youth causes them to fold. I doubt that happens because the Denver series was their breakthrough moment, especially for Jalen Williams who has been great since then.

It will take an out of body experience by both Hali and Siakim to make this a real series. I’d look for SGA to try hunting Hali on some isos too. OKC is gonna really test his stamina and toughness this series.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1229 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:56 pm

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Stanford wrote:I know everyone in your city likes to cry into their breakfast about Mikal Bridges every morning, but he's been pretty mediocre for two straight seasons and needs a pay raise. If we're in cap hell (we are), they're about to go beyond that.


Knicks blew it with the offseason moves last summer. Before that they were in excellent position for a sustained run. Now like you say, they're gonna get broken up due to the luxury tax and are asset poor. And now firing the only coach who made them relevant for a quarter century.

They're finished!

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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1230 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:59 pm

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Stanford wrote:I know everyone in your city likes to cry into their breakfast about Mikal Bridges every morning, but he's been pretty mediocre for two straight seasons and needs a pay raise. If we're in cap hell (we are), they're about to go beyond that.


Knicks blew it with the offseason moves last summer. Before that they were in excellent position for a sustained run. Now like you say, they're gonna get broken up due to the luxury tax and are asset poor. And now firing the only coach who made them relevant for a quarter century.

They're finished!

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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1231 » by M2J » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:07 pm

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mjkvol wrote:If this series is an OKC sweep it wouldn't surprise me, and if the Pacers made it a six or seven game series it wouldn't surprise me either. So many variables involved, but it just appears that OKC is a better and maybe deeper version of IND, and the fast pace and pressure defense plays right into their hands.

If I had to say, it will be OKC in five, as they are going to make Haliburton's life miserable. It will take Carlisle's greatest coaching job and some lights out shooting to extend this series.


The only way it’s a real series imo is if the Thunder youth causes them to fold. I doubt that happens because the Denver series was their breakthrough moment, especially for Jalen Williams who has been great since then.

It will take an out of body experience by both Hali and Siakim to make this a real series. I’d look for SGA to try hunting Hali on some isos too. OKC is gonna really test his stamina and toughness this series.



Styles make flights and Carlisle is a great coach.

Thunder still IMO have offensive deficiencies, though Jalen Williams appears more developed as a number 2 guy than I thought. But, I feel like a team such as golden state would've pushed them more. Minnesota underachieved defensively for some reason. The philosophy to stop OKC should be to never play SGA 1 on 1..... He's all time elite in isolation. And force the teammates to shoot somewhat contested 3s protecting the paint and get back in transition.... Play the same style against Williams with the ball. Minnesota turned the ball over too much really and both SGA and Williams made them pay for the one on one they played too often.

The Pacers best trait against OKC is that they have shooting and they don't turn the ball over.... If they okay better than expected defense... Who knows
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1232 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:51 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Bucks should have never gotten rid of Mike Budenholzer
Nuggets should have never gotten rid of Mike Malone

Kinda feels like the Knicks mad a bad call here, as well.


Pro sports from NBA to NHL, top league in Euro football, etc. have made coaches the easy scapegoat to fire to show the fanbase that something was done in response to failing to win, even when it doesn't make sense. Lord I have seen it enough over the past 11 years with Man United while the owners intentionally ignore the actual problem which in most cases is themselves or under performing yet overpaid players who wield too much power.

Maybe this is how it's always been going back before I begun watching sports in the late 90's, but now it seems exacerbated. Thibs has gotten a lot of heat at all his stops in the NBA, but the Knicks were a clown franchise for 20 years and firing him after this incredible sudden success seems like a CEO appeasing the shareholders with a "look we're doing something" move. In my opinion, their offseason player moves made them weaker, or at the very least kept them the same.


Not only did he resuscitate a franchise that was six feet under and make them relevant again, but after last season finally giving him a roster that fit what he likes to do, they made two awful trades and changed the entire construction to a team that had no identity aside from Brunson iso's.

Yeah, Thibs likes to play his starters and likes to build around defense. Hey, I know, lets empty the cupboard and gut the defense by letting go of a guy who was the glue to this team and get a soft jump shooting center and a 3&D role player who has lost the 'D' part. So now they are f***ked roster-wise and are making the age old move of believing a new coach can fix that. Good luck.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1233 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:54 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:If this series is an OKC sweep it wouldn't surprise me, and if the Pacers made it a six or seven game series it wouldn't surprise me either. So many variables involved, but it just appears that OKC is a better and maybe deeper version of IND, and the fast pace and pressure defense plays right into their hands.

If I had to say, it will be OKC in five, as they are going to make Haliburton's life miserable. It will take Carlisle's greatest coaching job and some lights out shooting to extend this series.


The only way it’s a real series imo is if the Thunder youth causes them to fold. I doubt that happens because the Denver series was their breakthrough moment, especially for Jalen Williams who has been great since then.

It will take an out of body experience by both Hali and Siakim to make this a real series. I’d look for SGA to try hunting Hali on some isos too. OKC is gonna really test his stamina and toughness this series.


Interestingly, one of the only 'weaknesses' of this Thunder team is their half court offense, so the Pacers going against their grain and slowing the game down could work to their advantage. Problem is, IND needs to run to survive offensively as the matchups in the half court will kill them.
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Re: NBA General Discussion: 24-25 

Post#1234 » by M2J » Thu Jun 5, 2025 7:53 am

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Kobblehead wrote:Bucks should have never gotten rid of Mike Budenholzer
Nuggets should have never gotten rid of Mike Malone

Kinda feels like the Knicks mad a bad call here, as well.


Pro sports from NBA to NHL, top league in Euro football, etc. have made coaches the easy scapegoat to fire to show the fanbase that something was done in response to failing to win, even when it doesn't make sense. Lord I have seen it enough over the past 11 years with Man United while the owners intentionally ignore the actual problem which in most cases is themselves or under performing yet overpaid players who wield too much power.

Maybe this is how it's always been going back before I begun watching sports in the late 90's, but now it seems exacerbated. Thibs has gotten a lot of heat at all his stops in the NBA, but the Knicks were a clown franchise for 20 years and firing him after this incredible sudden success seems like a CEO appeasing the shareholders with a "look we're doing something" move. In my opinion, their offseason player moves made them weaker, or at the very least kept them the same.


It's not that thibs deserved to be fired. I know he didn't, but he's also so stubborn that it's hard to make the subtle moves they needed to make to get them over the hump too. He did a great job, but he didn't necessarily turn them around... The front office getting Brunson for the cheap turned them around. The players also gave him a warning during the season, he shut that down. The team always had sufficient and versatile depth especially when Robinson came back. They could use a system that allows Brunson off ball more and more integration of others. The depth could help their defense overall.... But that's just my 2 cents.

My main takeaway is that the front office deserves credit for putting a team in place to get further than they have in 25 years and for them that's not enough... They need to try something else as he may have blown his chance to keep the locker room after a few moves as I mentioned and also doing the right thing of benching certain guys in key moments.
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Post#1235 » by PhillyFan11 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:00 am

I just hope Morey is watching these 2 teams in the finals and realizing how important good role players are. Get more Nembhard, Nesmith, Dortz, or Caruso type players and less Harden or PG type players.
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Post#1236 » by Sixersftw » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:05 am

TJ McConnell made a fg in the finals. Unequivocal process victory.
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Post#1237 » by Iverson Armband » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:42 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:I just hope Morey is watching these 2 teams in the finals and realizing how important good role players are. Get more Nembhard, Nesmith, Dortz, or Caruso type players and less Harden or PG type players.

You need a SGA, Haliburton and JDub first.
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Post#1238 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:47 am

This OKC defense is unbelievable. They’ve been jacking bad shots all game but they’re still up 12 because Indy can barely function right now.
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Post#1239 » by sodmoraes » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:58 am

Holmgrem offensive game is so bad. He should just rebound and shot 3s. Overrated player.

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Post#1240 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:06 am

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