Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[Murray_17]

Also, let's be honest. That stupid "white" party probably cost more than the tax penalties

[Slacktard]

Can they match and renegotiate the terms? This just reeks of Ainge using a loophole in order to gain another trade asset.

Nope. That's the thing about offer sheets. You have to match them exactly as they are. The NBA does have some things in place to prevent teams from front-loading or back-loading a deal because at one time a team would have like 3 yrs/$20m and had it be $15m/$5m/$5m if a team was in cap trouble or something.

[Jailblazers7]

The second round loophole is also a nice bit of business by Reed’s agent. They know that the Sixers are likely to match & want to make sure Reed gets a fully guaranteed deal.

[Jailblazers7]

The luxury tax is also irrelevant here. We have potential Harden & Harris trades to be made where we can easily find a way to get under that line before the season starts.

[sixers hoops]

Pay a guy $15m in 2024 who you are playing like 10 minutes a game?

The offer sheat is 23 million for 3 years. Where are the 15 million?

Woj's second tweet.

I wonder if I misread what Woj says. Is it the final 2 years become fully guaranteed for a total of $15.7m and not (what I was thinking) $15.7m each year.

I thought the same thing for a few seconds

[Andrew Toney]

Reed to Jazz

Morey crushing it

[Slacktard]

The offer sheat is 23 million for 3 years. Where are the 15 million?

Woj's second tweet.

I wonder if I misread what Woj says. Is it the final 2 years become fully guaranteed for a total of $15.7m and not (what I was thinking) $15.7m each year.

I thought the same thing for a few seconds

Yea... So if we take it as a 3/23 and the last two years are 15.7. Then it might break down something like

Year 1: 7.3m, Year 2: 7.7m, Year 3: 8.0m

Make it out of the first round and the last 2 years are guaranteed and Reed's cap hit for 2024-2025 would probably be somewhere around 7.5m-7.8m.

[mg]

Can they match and renegotiate the terms? This just reeks of Ainge using a loophole in order to gain another trade asset.

Nope. That's the thing about offer sheets. You have to match them exactly as they are. The NBA does have some things in place to prevent teams from front-loading or back-loading a deal because at one time a team would have like 3 yrs/$20m and had it be $15m/$5m/$5m if a team was in cap trouble or something.

Got it. If I'm the agent I would at least want that 2nd year fully guaranteed and not reliant on the team making the conf finals.

[Stanford]

That's an EASY match.

[sixers hoops]

The second round loophole is also a nice bit of business by Reed’s agent. They know that the Sixers are likely to match & want to make sure Reed gets a fully guaranteed deal.

I thought it said conference finals.

Doesn’t seem like a great loophole. If the Sixers don’t match, he essentially got his client a one year deal to play for a bad team. If he ends up getting a one year deal, wouldn’t he rather play for the Sixers? The playoff exposure would prob help him heading into unrestricted free agency.

Unless he really believes the Sixers will match, i wouldn’t want to discourage the better team from matching the contract.

[Stanford]

If they don't match this, I'm officially out.

[sixers hoops]

That's an EASY match.

You would think, but they really seem focused on not taking back deals greater than one year, and the Mo Bamba and Harrell deals seem like possible indications that they were planning not to match a Reed deal.

On the other hand, Reed is much more important than the guys they let walk, and Mo and Harrell deals are essentially nothing.

I guess I’m trying too hard to find clues in Morey’s haphazard plan.

[Jailblazers7]

The second round loophole is also a nice bit of business by Reed’s agent. They know that the Sixers are likely to match & want to make sure Reed gets a fully guaranteed deal.

I thought it said conference finals.

Doesn’t seem like a great loophole. If the Sixers don’t match, he essentially got his client a one year deal to play for a bad team. If he ends up getting a one year deal, wouldn’t he rather play for the Sixers? The playoff exposure would prob help him heading into unrestricted free agency.

Unless he really believes the Sixers will match, i wouldn’t want to discourage the better team from matching the contract.

I think it’s a fair & reasonable contract so I don’t really get why the Sixers would be discouraged from matching. The loophole is just a way to get him a fully guaranteed deal at his preferred destination. $8m is a highly tradeable contract for a 24 year old capable of playing both frontcourt spots with a proven playoff track record now so it’s not like we’re stuck with him forever.

[sixers hoops]

If they don't match this, I'm officially out.

My first reaction was that they wouldn’t match, but the optimism here is telling me it’s more of a no-brainer than I thought.

[sixers hoops]

The second round loophole is also a nice bit of business by Reed’s agent. They know that the Sixers are likely to match & want to make sure Reed gets a fully guaranteed deal.

I thought it said conference finals.

Doesn’t seem like a great loophole. If the Sixers don’t match, he essentially got his client a one year deal to play for a bad team. If he ends up getting a one year deal, wouldn’t he rather play for the Sixers? The playoff exposure would prob help him heading into unrestricted free agency.

Unless he really believes the Sixers will match, i wouldn’t want to discourage the better team from matching the contract.

I think it’s a fair & reasonable contract so I don’t really get why the Sixers would be discouraged from matching. The loophole is just a way to get him a fully guaranteed deal at his preferred destination. $8m is a highly tradeable contract for a 24 year old capable of playing both frontcourt spots with a proven playoff track record now so it’s not like we’re stuck with him forever.

I guess I’m struggling to figure out Morey’s plan. Letting McDaniels walk on that cheap contract led me to believe they only want one-year deals to clear cap space, but I actually have no clue what he is doing.

[Stanford]

planning not to match a Reed deal.

They haven't heard that I will be officially out if they don't. Once they do, they will match.

[sixers hoops]

planning not to match a Reed deal.

They haven't heard that I will be officially out if they don't. Once they do, they will match.

B-ball owes you

[ProcessDoctor]

I thought it said conference finals.

Doesn’t seem like a great loophole. If the Sixers don’t match, he essentially got his client a one year deal to play for a bad team. If he ends up getting a one year deal, wouldn’t he rather play for the Sixers? The playoff exposure would prob help him heading into unrestricted free agency.

Unless he really believes the Sixers will match, i wouldn’t want to discourage the better team from matching the contract.

I think it’s a fair & reasonable contract so I don’t really get why the Sixers would be discouraged from matching. The loophole is just a way to get him a fully guaranteed deal at his preferred destination. $8m is a highly tradeable contract for a 24 year old capable of playing both frontcourt spots with a proven playoff track record now so it’s not like we’re stuck with him forever.

I guess I’m struggling to figure out Morey’s plan. Letting McDaniels walk on that cheap contract led me to believe they only want one-year deals to clear cap space, but I actually have no clue what he is doing.

You wanna know his super secret plan?

Spoiler:

Run it back doe

[zaz102]

It would be a shame if he's not retained. He's the only backup C I've seen behind Embiid that could somewhat hold down the fort during the playoffs. And that's with Doc refusing to play him much during the regular season. And from what I read from Magic fans, I wouldn't expect much from Bamba.

I only want pay money to guys that would contribute in the playoffs and he's one of them and really the only one of their FA group.

Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

[Skates]

Hopefully Morey hasn’t confused run it back with run it backwards.