76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

LOL @ People being mad because we didn't trade Harris for Bogdonavich/Burks.

[Negrodamus]

LOL @ People being mad because we didn't trade Harris for Bogdonavich/Burks.

Who is mad? I agreed it only makes sense to not trade Tobi unless there is draft capital to gain for a future trade.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

LOL @ People being mad because we didn't trade Harris for Bogdonavich/Burks.

Who is mad? I agreed it only makes sense to not trade Tobi unless there is draft capital to gain for a future trade.

Sorry, I should have clarified that one. The GB board. Comments like "Morey should be fired for not doing this"

[Arsenal]

Wow... This thread has turned to doom and gloom.


I'll say this. I understand the Sixers have injuries and illnesses. But they gotta start winning games coach Nurse. Then going with 5 wins in 2 months would have Doc Rivers rolling in his grave, who was winning with Shake and Melton running the show just last year when others stars were out. They don't have the best team in the middle without Joel, I get that, but especially with Buddy, Maxey back, Melton back, Batum , Tobi and Kelly and now a real back up point guard in Cam... This is an experienced and talented team that should be winning games.

We will win enough games to stay afloat if the guys aside from Embiid finally get back from injury and illness.

Doom and gloomers seem to be assuming that we'll continue to have 5+ rotation players out of the lineup for the next 2 months. If that continues then yes we'll fall out of the playoffs.

[FireMorey]

Morey sounded like a guy who wants to keep Hield here longer term.

[Ben]

Morey sounded like a guy who wants to keep Hield here longer term.

Sweet Lou lite?

(The thing about Lou is that he amazingly became an even better volume scorer at age 30, and attacked the rim as Hield never has done, so any statistical comparison couldn't really be on the mark. I'm just envisioning a best-case scenario of Hield as a 6th man microwave. I still miss Sweet Lou.)

[Kobblehead]

I don't blame Morey for not doing the trade, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have done it, myself.

Bogdanović/Burks both bomb away from three and open up the floor. Harris barely spaces the floor, comparatively.

[ProcessDoctor]

Lowry officially bought out.

[zaz102]

Lowry officially bought out.

And per Woj planning to be signed by the Sixers.

[eyeatoma]

Lowry confirmed.

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[Arsenal]

Interested to see if Lowry takes the backup PG role over Payne when Melton gets back. Plenty of time for everyone before that happens.

[Mik317]

went to HS w/ Lowry

i am more washed than he is but he's still washed

[76ciology]

Can anyone explain to me the purpose of adding Kyle Lowry?

Isn’t Payne already enough for back-up PG?

The only reason I can see is a potential “farewell tour”

[Mik317]

my guess is that Nurse trusts Lowry more than Payne (and Bev) and we play a lot of two small guard lineups anyway

[76ciology]

I don't blame Morey for not doing the trade, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have done it, myself.

Bogdanović/Burks both bomb away from three and open up the floor. Harris barely spaces the floor, comparatively.

I think Hield is much better. Bogdanovic's only edge is his shot creation over Hield, which won't have that much value since we would rarely ask him to create with the ball considering we have Embiid, Tobias, and Maxey for that.

Hield is also easier to cover on defense. He's an average defensive player at the guard position in today’s NBA for me. Bogdanovic at the 3 or 4 is almost a liability; he ranks only at the 4th percentile on defense with a -2.2 Defensive Plus-Minus (DPM). He also averages only 3 rebounds per game. It's as if we have George Niang out there with Tobias.

[eyeatoma]

went to HS w/ Lowry

i am more washed than he is but he's still washed

Oh **** very cool.

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[76ciology]

What if the plan is to acquire Steph Curry?

The Warriors are likely to miss the playoffs, and amidst the team's chaos, Steph might seek a trade.

Warriors also CLEARLY has to shed salaries.

Perhaps we could absorb Steph and Wiggins’ contracts then give them a re-siged Maxey, $60M of cap relief which they’d value and offer numerous picks (Our 2024 1st, Our 2026 1st, LAC 2028 1st) in exchange. This trade protects us in trading picks later than 2026.

The Warriors need an all-star version of Klay Thompson to succeed. With Hield filling Klay's role, we could potentially make it work.

If Reed's no-trade clause expires next season, we could even include him in the deal for Draymond Green. He’d have lots of playing time for the Warriors.

This thought makes sense on picks, Morey’s 3 year window, salaries and both teams’ situation aspects.

Imagine the lineup:
Steph Curry
Buddy Hield
Andrew Wiggins
Draymond Green
Joel Embiid

Suddenly, Morey’s statement about how we would be in a very advantageous position by the 2024 offseason, with $60 million in cap space (can absorb $55M of Steph’s contract) and being a contender, makes sense.

The 2026 OKC 1st and the 2028 LAC 1st allow us to trade 76ers picks not later than 2026. I mean, if we didn't get the 2026 OKC 1st, which was the asset that made the Harden deal happen, then we might need to give up our 2030 1st if GSW asks for three first-rounders. Then the 2028 LAC 1st allows us not to trade our 2028 76ers 1st. Curry and Embiid’s salary expires or are not guaranteed past 2026.

If the Warriors traded Curry while he can still play they would burn the Chase Center down.

An alternative scenario is to engage in a sign-and-trade deal, swapping Buddy Hield for CP3’s contract, while they hand over Kuminga to us. This way, they can address their cap and Klay Thompson problem simultaneously.

[eyeatoma]

Can anyone explain to me the purpose of adding Kyle Lowry?

Isn’t Payne already enough for back-up PG?

The only reason I can see is a potential “farewell tour”

Playoff pedigree, can still defend in the post, can teach Maxey stuff, is a calming element. Payne is very up and down.

[eyeatoma]

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