Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1

ProcessDoctor · Post #1241 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sun May 18, 2025 11:49 pm

Ideally you trade Embiid for Giannis, but that doesn't work without #3 and some. At that point, I'd rather just take my chances with Embiid and hang onto the future assets.

FlyingArrow · Post #1242 » by **FlyingArrow** » Sun May 18, 2025 11:54 pm

No thanks on Giannis. Not for what he would cost.

76ciology · Post #1243 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 19, 2025 6:11 am

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Which lineup is better?

Maxey | Grimes | Oubre (Edwards?) | Giannis | Embiid
Vs
McCain | Grimes | George | Giannis | Embiid

I’d make the George (and likely McCain and 3rd overall) trade and roll the dice. That way, I can still lean on a Maxey & Giannis led team whenever Embiid isn’t at his best or isn’t available at all.

76ciology · Post #1244 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 19, 2025 6:14 am

Let’s say we pull off a trade, Embiid and the #3 pick for Giannis. Do you think that gives us the 3rd best odds to win the championship next season? Keep in mind, making that deal also gets rid of the dreaded “if healthy” tag.

Maxey
Grimes
George
Giannis
Yabusele?

mjkvol · Post #1245 » by **mjkvol** » Mon May 19, 2025 10:26 am

76ciology wrote:Let’s say we pull off a trade, Embiid and the #3 pick for Giannis. Do you think that gives us the 3rd best odds to win the championship next season? Keep in mind, making that deal also gets rid of the dreaded “if healthy” tag.

Maxey
Grimes
George
Giannis
Yabusele?

I know you're talking hypothetically here, but unless Nico Harrison's brother's friend's brother's brother is the Bucks GM and only talked to one team (us) before making a deal of that magnitude, what chance is there that an offer of a crippled player on a max deal and one pick would be sufficient for a top 3 player in the world?

It's going to take a crazy haul to get a small market like Milwaukee to part with the best player they might ever see in that town again. Even if it makes all the sense in the world to tear it down sooner than later.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1246 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon May 19, 2025 11:17 am

76ciology wrote:Let’s say we pull off a trade, Embiid and the #3 pick for Giannis. Do you think that gives us the 3rd best odds to win the championship next season? Keep in mind, making that deal also gets rid of the dreaded “if healthy” tag.

Maxey
Grimes
George
Giannis
Yabusele?

I would do this, as depth doesn't become an issue. Brook would probably come here for the vet min, and we could use the TMLE to bolster our forward/big depth. Realistically, we'd have to give up at least 1-2 more 1sts and find a 3rd team to take Embiid. I would not give up 3 firsts and Embiid for Giannis.

sodmoraes · Post #1247 » by **sodmoraes** » Mon May 19, 2025 12:09 pm

Do you guys think Embiid will play on the start of next season? I´m kinda over the big fella. Even if he´s healed by a miracle next season( doubt it), i dont think we should focus on him anymore, his game doesnt work the same way on the playoffs that it works on the regular season (like Harden). If he´s good to go, we should play him next year 20-30 minutes max ( without any back to backs). But if his knee keeps flaring up, we should start the process of trying to get a medical retirement for him.

Negrodamus · Post #1248 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon May 19, 2025 3:05 pm

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-2025-nba-mock-draft-rumors-espn-paul-george-contract-kevin-durant-trade-lauri-markkanen/

Some teams expect us to do 3+PG for options around the league. I'm wondering if PG holds any real value at all.

sodmoraes · Post #1249 » by **sodmoraes** » Mon May 19, 2025 3:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-2025-nba-mock-draft-rumors-espn-paul-george-contract-kevin-durant-trade-lauri-markkanen/

Some teams expect us to do 3+PG for options around the league. I'm wondering if PG holds any real value at all.

Seems like a flawed plan. If we want to ship PG, it is because probably Embiid is done, since that was the main reason we got PG. Ok, Paul was injured last season, but if he´s healthy next season he´s the same player we signed, so why get rid of him( if we think EMbiid can still be an impactful player)? So why give up the 3rd pick? If Embiid is done we need to think about the future, and isnt the better way to do that is keep the pick and draft the player with most potential? Durant is done, he´s almost 40... We wont get a championship with him, just a dumb trade...

davesilver · Post #1250 » by **davesilver** » Mon May 19, 2025 3:42 pm

Thinking more on it, Morey is 100% targeting Giannis

If we did something like McCain, George, #3, '28 Clippers Pick, '30 FRP

Maxey Grimes Oubre Giannis Embiid
Butler Gordon Edwards Yabu Bona

Seems like the real deal

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1251 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Mon May 19, 2025 4:08 pm

76ciology · Post #1252 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 19, 2025 4:22 pm

davesilver wrote:Thinking more on it, Morey is 100% targeting Giannis

Y E S

We have to act like we like Bailey. Cast your vote for Bailey in the draft thread.

Next TMac-Durant Hybrid

M2J · Post #1253 » by **M2J** » Mon May 19, 2025 4:31 pm

76ciology wrote:Let’s say we pull off a trade, Embiid and the #3 pick for Giannis. Do you think that gives us the 3rd best odds to win the championship next season? Keep in mind, making that deal also gets rid of the dreaded “if healthy” tag.

Maxey
Grimes
George
Giannis
Yabusele?

Never would happen, but sure.

76ciology · Post #1254 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 19, 2025 4:36 pm

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Negrodamus · Post #1255 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon May 19, 2025 4:38 pm

I personally think trading for Giannis will be a disaster, but I suppose I'm here to be entertained.

M2J · Post #1256 » by **M2J** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:00 pm

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Spike has been worse since working in Philly on his Sixers takes. Giannis has agency in this, and he'll never agree to team up with Joel, specifically because of the nature of Joel's active health status. Not even worth discussing this off season. The pick is a great surprise asset, find a star in this draft and try to work around the contract situations

Post #1257 » by **Stanford** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:03 pm

Spike is clearly correct.

Iscull · Post #1258 » by **Iscull** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-news-analysis-2025-nba-mock-draft-rumors-espn-paul-george-contract-kevin-durant-trade-lauri-markkanen/

Some teams expect us to do 3+PG for options around the league. I'm wondering if PG holds any real value at all.

His value is contract match and being a “starter” at this point. That said, some team may be willing to risk it.

I mentioned in the other thread, Utah apparently loves Ace Bailey. If we can use that to our advantage, we could swap FRP’s and George for Markkenen.

I think it’s generally fair if Utah doesn’t think they’re competing next year (or two) and they love AB.

Iscull · Post #1259 » by **Iscull** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:12 pm

Stanford wrote:Spike is clearly correct.

I will lose it if we trade the one good thing this organization has in Maxey.

The event they hosted for Maxey after signing his extension would’ve been for nothing if you pull that trigger. Honestly would be a real bad look on the organization and something that I don’t believe that Josh Harris would sign off on.

FireMorey · Post #1260 » by **FireMorey** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:18 pm

He's correct in his framing, but it's more complicated than that. It's not just Maxey and #3 vs Giannis. It's not having the assets around Embiid and Giannis to build a championship team. And all of this is moot if Embiid is shot anyway, which is entirely possible if not likely. This #3 pick is the Sixers' chance to position themselves to rebuild. If Embiid is washed, their title chances are done anyway. This #3 chance gives them a shot to mitigate risk. And in a wide open east even if they decided not to trade for Giannis, if Embiid turns out to not be washed, they could very well win the east without Giannis.

And that's the least of the dumb rumors. Trading #3 for Durant or Lauri? Lmao. Would be two of the dumbest trades in franchise history. My god.