2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2

shawn_hemp · Post #1261 » by **shawn_hemp** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:14 am

Alright glad that train wreck is over. Gonzaga is an average basketball team. If they make the a Final Four, Sean Miller should lose his job

Josh Jackson with the 1 handed slam here's some entertainment

Sixers2125 · Post #1262 » by **Sixers2125** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:14 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:I have a feeling many people won't be happy if we picked 5th or 6th and drafted Fox. He doesn't seem to have that pizzazz to get people excited.

I'd love to get Fox, call me crazy but I'd take him over Ball. I've seen way too much college ball this season and I really don't see the hype in ball. I think a lot of if is the system UCLA has, but I really view Ball as a slightly less athletic, better shooting- which I think will mostly be negated by his unorthodox release- MCW. Do not want.

Sent from my SM-G920V using RealGM mobile app

Sixers2125 · Post #1263 » by **Sixers2125** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:27 am

Lonzo can't even get to the free throw line, jump shooters like Monk go to the line twice as much as him. I think that should be a huge red flag. When he does get there he doesn't even shoot fts very well, Fox is actually a better ft shooter than Lonzo. That's one reason why I think Fox will be fine in the nba, good ft shooters in college will usually develop a decent 3 ball.

Sent from my SM-G920V using RealGM mobile app

shawn_hemp · Post #1264 » by **shawn_hemp** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:30 am

Sixers2125 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:I have a feeling many people won't be happy if we picked 5th or 6th and drafted Fox. He doesn't seem to have that pizzazz to get people excited.

I'd love to get Fox, call me crazy but I'd take him over Ball. I've seen way too much college ball this season and I really don't see the hype in ball. I think a lot of if is the system UCLA has, but I really view Ball as a slightly less athletic, better shooting- which I think will mostly be negated by his unorthodox release- MCW. Do not want.

Sent from my SM-G920V using RealGM mobile app

Believe me I'm not as high on Ball as some media pundits are (and his dad), but I think that is a bit off base to compare him to MCW.

He is a far better passer and a much better shooter. Even with his funky release. He not only physically makes better passes, he mentally knows where and when to make the right pass.

He is a really good player, the UCLA system just enhances stuff he is already good at.

If you are the Sixers and would take Fox over Ball

You're crazy

Unbreakable99 · Post #1265 » by **Unbreakable99** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:30 am

eagereyez wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:There's no reason why this guy should get airtime for anything.

He gets ratings. Without any knowledge I bet today's First Take was the highest rated this week. He wouldn't be talked to if he didn't bring eyeballs and ears. He's a quote machine. He's great for the media. He always gives you something to talk about. This is the world we live in for better or for worse lol.

If we are lucky enough to draft Lonzo just get ready for the local media to interview Lavar and for him to have a weekly spot on one of the local radio stations lol. If we lose or not that good Lavar won't hesitate to say who's to blame. Brett Brown or Ben Simmons or whoever could feel his wrath lol. You will listen though.

It's sad how dumb our society is. From the Kardashians to Milo to this guy. So many low IQ individuals that will tune in for this garbage.

I heard the cashmeousside chick is making like 100k per month now. This Ian our society. The loudest mouths get the ratings. You have to know how to sell and Lavar sells. People love showmen and braggers.

eagereyez · Post #1266 » by **eagereyez** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:35 am

My general big board:

Jackson
Fultz
Ball
Tatum
DSJ
Fox
Bridges
Isaac
Monk

My 76ers big board:

Ball
Fultz
Jackson
Monk
DSJ
Tatum
Bridges
Fox
Isaac

shawn_hemp · Post #1267 » by **shawn_hemp** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:12 am

Ok Josh Jackson is pretty good. I still have my doubts about him being a great scorer, but I think he could be an Iguodala type of player. And I'm starting to sour on Fultz a bit. I think he will need the ball too much to be effective for us. Same thing with Ball

I'd rather have him than Malik Monk, but I still like Monk as a player

My 76ers big board (I don't get the whole "best player" thing anyway. Every player should be drafted to a team where they can be given an optimal chance to prove themselves. We've seen what happens when you draft 3 centers...)

Jackson
Monk
Fultz
Ball
Tatum
DSJ
Fox
Terrence Ferguson
Donovan Mitchell
Isaac

You think we need a 2 guard?

JojoSlimbiid · Post #1268 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:18 am

Changing your board after one game is silly. Hopefully actually teams buy into the tournament hype. Might be able to get guys we shouldn't be able to get.

Sixers2125 · Post #1269 » by **Sixers2125** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:19 am

shawn_hemp wrote:
Sixers2125 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:I have a feeling many people won't be happy if we picked 5th or 6th and drafted Fox. He doesn't seem to have that pizzazz to get people excited.

I'd love to get Fox, call me crazy but I'd take him over Ball. I've seen way too much college ball this season and I really don't see the hype in ball. I think a lot of if is the system UCLA has, but I really view Ball as a slightly less athletic, better shooting- which I think will mostly be negated by his unorthodox release- MCW. Do not want.

Sent from my SM-G920V using RealGM mobile app

Believe me I'm not as high on Ball as some media pundits are (and his dad), but I think that is a bit off base to compare him to MCW.

He is a far better passer and a much better shooter. Even with his funky release. He not only physically makes better passes, he mentally knows where and when to make the right pass.

He is a really good player, the UCLA system just enhances stuff he is already good at.

If you are the Sixers and would take Fox over Ball

You're crazy

Obviously I'd trade down rather than take fox over Ball. We'll see in a few years I guess. I'd be willing to bet Fox becomes the better pro.

Sent from my SM-G920V using RealGM mobile app

eagereyez · Post #1270 » by **eagereyez** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:27 am

shawn_hemp wrote:You think we need a 2 guard?

We desperately need a 2 guard. I don't like the idea of Covington playing the 2 full time and our current 2 guards are complete ass. I really hope we can grab Josh Hart in the 2nd round.

shawn_hemp · Post #1271 » by **shawn_hemp** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:55 am

JojoSlimbiid wrote:Changing your board after one game is silly. Hopefully actually teams buy into the tournament hype. Might be able to get guys we shouldn't be able to get.

I feel you on that but I sort of realized I have been hypocritical in saying that Malik Monk is unfairly criticized on defense while also doing the same thing to Josh Jackson on the offensive end.

He is definitely not just a defense only player. He might not be the 3 point threat that Monk is, but he is still somewhat decent shooting off the dribble and at his size he will be tough to keep from going to where he wants to go. He doesn't have to be a great dribbler, just good enough.

It's just tough to see Phoenix pass on this guy though.

Post #1272 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:20 am

In case anyone was unsure Markkanen is BAAD at defense.

eagereyez · Post #1273 » by **eagereyez** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:37 am

Sixerscan wrote:In case anyone was unsure Markkanen is BAAD at defense.

I was unsure until you posted this. :wink:

Mik317 · Post #1274 » by **Mik317** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:44 am

the games tonight have been lit

Kolkmania · Post #1275 » by **Kolkmania** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:01 am

shawn_hemp wrote:Ok Josh Jackson is pretty good. I still have my doubts about him being a great scorer, but I think he could be an Iguodala type of player. And I'm starting to sour on Fultz a bit. I think he will need the ball too much to be effective for us. Same thing with Ball

I'd rather have him than Malik Monk, but I still like Monk as a player

My 76ers big board (I don't get the whole "best player" thing anyway. Every player should be drafted to a team where they can be given an optimal chance to prove themselves. We've seen what happens when you draft 3 centers...)

Jackson
Monk
Fultz
Ball
Tatum
DSJ
Fox
Terrence Ferguson
Donovan Mitchell
Isaac

You think we need a 2 guard?

How come? Fultz played his last game a while ago. Fultz and Ball are excellent off-ball players, capable of shooting running off screens and Ball is a great cutter. Both players don't necessarily need the ball in their hands to be effective, Dennis Smith jr, Josh Jackson and De'Aaron Fox do.

76ciology · Post #1276 » by **76ciology** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:32 am

Imagine having LaVarr and Embiid next year at Sixers social media. Haha

SparksFly87 · Post #1277 » by **SparksFly87** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:01 pm

Monk reminds me of JJ Reddick with great athleticism .

76ers need Fultz badly. He has the size of a elite 2 guard and the offensive package to match. Wade/Harden 6'4-5 with 6'10/11 wingspan.

A Dennis Smith and Monk haul in the draft would be erry similar to Paul and Redick backcourt.

76ers have some shooters Roco, Luwawu, Stauskus and eventually Korkamaz. We need scorers badly Dennis Smith, Fultz , Tatum, Monk are the guys.

Kobblehead · Post #1278 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:40 pm

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/3/24/15043720/lavar-ball-coach-run-ucla-nba-lonzo-liangelo-lamelo-chino-hills

You guys see this yet?

Unbreakable99 · Post #1279 » by **Unbreakable99** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:00 pm

Kobblehead wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/3/24/15043720/lavar-ball-coach-run-ucla-nba-lonzo-liangelo-lamelo-chino-hills

You guys see this yet?

I'm not concerned. Parents can control high school teams. That rarely happens in college and never in the pros. Every player in the NBA is good and could but better than Ball. Brett Brown wouldn't cater to Lavar. What's Lavar going to do to Brett? He can't get him fired. Embiid and Simmons should be better than Ball.

TheAntiTrump · Post #1280 » by **TheAntiTrump** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:05 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2017/3/24/15043720/lavar-ball-coach-run-ucla-nba-lonzo-liangelo-lamelo-chino-hills

You guys see this yet?

I'm not concerned. Parents can control high school teams. That rarely happens in college and never in the pros. Every player in the NBA is good and could but better than Ball. Brett Brown wouldn't cater to Lavar. What's Lavar going to do to Brett? He can't get him fired. Embiid and Simmons should be better than Ball.

In a way, a parent like Lavar CAN get a NBA Head Coach fired. Maybe not directly. But, if a Father who has constantly molded his kids like Lavar has, if he convinces his NBA Son that the coach is a detriment to his game/career...that player CAN get a Head Coach fired. This has been proven throughout sports.