Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[PhillyPhilly]

Some very weird trade ideas in here lately. Firstly getting Chris Paul, who is 35 YEARS OLD ON A BAD CONTRACT, would be beyond stupid. I think we've got plenty of good pieces on the roster, plus our draft picks, to build a decent team for next season. Richardson, Shake, Matisse etc...getting rid of Horford is also key too. I personally think the Sixers are bluffing when it comes to potentially trading Ben tbh...he's not improved his shooting after four years so whats gonna change now? Plus there were rumours EB was ready to trade him last season so we'll see. I just want Beal and Levine in our guard positions...those two would transform our future moving forward imo. I think Ben for Beal would be fair and then Matisse, Jrich and draft picks for Levine would be the other deal i'd try to do.

[Kobblehead]

Even despite his age and bad contract, Paul can do the only two things that matter in the playoffs (score off the dribble and defend). So if there's a situation where we can trade an even worse contract (Harris) and end up with Paul and not have to give up anything that hurts (Thybulle or #21), then it's something we just have to do.

[youngcrev]

Some very weird trade ideas in here lately. Firstly getting Chris Paul, who is 35 YEARS OLD ON A BAD CONTRACT, would be beyond stupid. I think we've got plenty of good pieces on the roster, plus our draft picks, to build a decent team for next season. Richardson, Shake, Matisse etc...getting rid of Horford is also key too. I personally think the Sixers are bluffing when it comes to potentially trading Ben tbh...he's not improved his shooting after four years so whats gonna change now? Plus there were rumours EB was ready to trade him last season so we'll see. I just want Beal and Levine in our guard positions...those two would transform our future moving forward imo. I think Ben for Beal would be fair and then Matisse, Jrich and draft picks for Levine would be the other deal i'd try to do.

Because if Chris Paul wasn't 35 there's a zero percent chance they'd be able to acquire a player of his caliber. It's not like Harris and Horford aren't worse contracts than him.

[the_process]

Milwaukee will probably be our biggest competition for CP3.

Bledsoe/Illyasova/Robin/Wilson/#24/2022 2nd for CP3

I think our only way to compete with that is via a 3-way trade. If they have to take on Harris or Horford,we'd have to give up a lot more compensation IMO.

Harris and 2 future 1sts should get it done. One unprotected and one lottery protected. Harris is also more useful to them than anyone MIL can give.

[Kobblehead]

That said, I don't like the idea of getting Paul if it costs Thybulle, #21, etc. We don't have a deep enough team to make it worth it. Especially considering the durability of Embiid, Simmons and Paul.

[DT RAW]

Paul only has 2 years left ... if we can acquire him by shedding horford or harris why wouldnt we do it?

Paul showed zero signs of being washed up this year? He was healthy as far as I know, played a solid 32 mpg too.

If we kept him at 30 mpg the last 2 years of his deal I dont see any reason other than our typical bad luck that it cant work out.

Paul has a skillset that isn't going away with age, much like pau gasol was able to play well for so long. You dont have to be young or an amazing athlete to play well in the PnR.. you need good handles, high IQ, and a good jumper

Paul has all 3 and they arent going anywhere.

Now I am not a fan of loading them with picks for him, but if we can get him for harris or horford, plus giving okc their pick back, I do that instantly

[phillynative]

I think paul can hold it together for 2 more years. He seems to care of his body and hes never been a run and jump athlete which seems to have more wear on players . It sort of reminds me of steve nash, jason kidd and chauncey billups effectively playing well into their 30's.

This is if we cant get Beal(preferrably), Lavine or Mcculom.

[PhillyPhilly]

Paul had a bad injury history at Houston..and as we've seen with Horford players in their mid thirties can fall off a cliff quickly. So once again it's a NO for me...we'd be better served building a young roster who can still improve...Levine over Paul every day of the week.

[Kobblehead]

I think paul can hold it together for 2 more years. He seems to care of his body and hes never been a run and jump athlete which seems to have more wear on players . It sort of reminds me of steve nash, jason kidd and chauncey billups effectively playing well into their 30's.

This is if we cant get Beal(preferrably), Lavine or Mcculom.

Paul's durability was unreliable in the playoffs even in his athletic prime. Quite a few of those Clippers runs were stopped short due to the lack of availability or full-effectiveness from both he and Blake. And obviously the Rockets might have won a championship if Paul doesn't get hurt that first year.

He doesn't play a taxing style of ball, but for whatever reason, he just doesn't seem to have the durability to hold up.

[Arsenal]

I think paul can hold it together for 2 more years. He seems to care of his body and hes never been a run and jump athlete which seems to have more wear on players . It sort of reminds me of steve nash, jason kidd and chauncey billups effectively playing well into their 30's.

This is if we cant get Beal(preferrably), Lavine or Mcculom.

Paul's durability was unreliable in the playoffs even in his athletic prime. Quite a few of those Clippers runs were stopped short due to the lack of availability or full-effectiveness from both he and Blake. And obviously the Rockets might have won a championship if Paul doesn't get hurt that first year.

He doesn't play a taxing style of ball, but for whatever reason, he just doesn't seem to have the durability to hold up.

Chris Paul is our only shot at being a contender. If we can get him for a reasonable price we have to pull the trigger.

If we get him, just load manage him all the way during the regular season. We just need him for the playoffs.

[PhillyPhilly]

I think paul can hold it together for 2 more years. He seems to care of his body and hes never been a run and jump athlete which seems to have more wear on players . It sort of reminds me of steve nash, jason kidd and chauncey billups effectively playing well into their 30's.

This is if we cant get Beal(preferrably), Lavine or Mcculom.

Paul's durability was unreliable in the playoffs even in his athletic prime. Quite a few of those Clippers runs were stopped short due to the lack of availability or full-effectiveness from both he and Blake. And obviously the Rockets might have won a championship if Paul doesn't get hurt that first year.

He doesn't play a taxing style of ball, but for whatever reason, he just doesn't seem to have the durability to hold up.

Chris Paul is our only shot at being a contender. If we can get him for a reasonable price we have to pull the trigger.

If we get him, just load manage him all the way during the regular season. We just need him for the playoffs.

Er No..he isn't. And thankfully i don't think EB will subscribe to your theory either...Paul is a 35 year old dude on a bad contract with a terrible injury history...we just saw how injuries can ruin a playoff run so no thank you...not worth the risk at all.

[VDT]

I dont want to send Harris for Paul. He may be mostly useless in the playoffs but he can start at the 4. Horford is a better player in a vacuum but he is useless to us positionally. Ideally we could trade him, filler and a pick for Paul. Even if he gets injured we havent lost much.

However with the way the Bucks Heat is going, Bucks might be even more desperate than us in the offseason so the price for Paul will likely increase and the team that gets him likely gets fleeced. I dont want to send Thybylle or any of the starters for Paul precisely because of the injury risk and the possibility that he just falls off the cliff.

[Kobblehead]

I dont want to send Harris for Paul. He may be mostly useless in the playoffs but he can start at the 4. Horford is a better player in a vacuum but he is useless to us positionally. Ideally we could trade him, filler and a pick for Paul. Even if he gets injured we havent lost much.

However with the way the Bucks Heat is going, Bucks might be even more desperate than us in the offseason so the price for Paul will likely increase and the team that gets him likely gets fleeced. I dont want to send Thybylle or any of the starters for Paul precisely because of the injury risk and the possibility that he just falls off the cliff.

So can Ben Simmons, though.

Horford is at least at a place in his career where he has no issues coming off the bench.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The minute OKC asks for any of our young guns, or any first round draft picks for CP3 I'm done and the phone is getting hung. Paul could have been acquired for a salary dump 9 months ago. Now all of a sudden we're giving up Mattise, #21, and future picks for him? Hell...No...OKC is looking to cash in after pumping his stats. If Elton takes that bait it'll seal our fate towards an imminent rebuild. Now if OKC wants to do Tobias Harris and JRich for Paul, I'm down, but under no circumstances should we part with picks or current prospects. That would be extremely stupid. The idea that Shake, Kork, and Thybulle CAN improve their games isn't exactly far fetched. They just need opportunity. If OKC would take that deal, then I'd do it. We get the exact type of point guard this team needs and we open up opportunities for our young guys. It's a win for OKC too because they're getting back talent in return. They're stuck with Harris, but he's a great fit on that team with SGA, Dort, and Adams. JRich slides into the shooting guard spot.

[skulky]

What about Terry Rozier as a defensive PG/offensive SG?

Hear me out...

If you go back to the old formula of Ben at PG, then on offense it makes sense to have the SG be a secondary ball handler, and a guy who can go get a bucket. But also a guy who can defend quicker opposing PGs and hit catch and shoot 3s.

There aren't many guys in the league with Rozier's particular skill sets, combined with his contract and experience.

One thing I'll say about Scary Terry is he plays with a level of heart that seems to be lacking from the current roster.

Even if he's not the best defender in the game, he is gonna give effort and show pride in himself, and fight for every possession.

In my opinion, he might be the perfect fit next to a PG Ben Simmons. He also shot over 46% from 3 on catch and shoot which is where he would get lots of looks playing with Ben and Joel.


What package can we offer Charlotte to get him here? They don't "need" him, but they could use an upgrade at Center....

I heard Danny leroux and Sam vecenie discussing on a podcast something similar and was talking to some Charlotte fans on Reddit about it. The podcast was talking Devonte graham and nic batum for horford/ Thybulle/21 and possibly other picks.

The Hornets fans I spoke with seems interested in moving off rozier, they also have Cody zeller expiring, and all view Devonte Graham as their best player.

One proposal discussed was:
Devonte Graham/Rozier/Zeller for
Horford/shake/zhaire/21/34/36 and a future first.

I mean I love the idea of 9.3 3s attempted a game graham next to been and Joel as well as his 7.5 assists. Terrry Rozier is interesting as well with his great catch and shoot ability and not necessarily relying on him to initiate offense. I think there’s the added benefit of them having 2 mid tier contracts with zeller’s expiring 15.4 million and then rozier May descending 2 years down to 17.9 in 21/22. Giving sixers option to trade Richardson and one of those contracts for something interesting.

[Arsenal]

We better be TAMPERING with Chris Paul right now. It's obvious Sam Presti promised him he'd be traded to a contender this offseason. We need CP3 to force them to trade him to us at a low price. Muscle them behind the scenes just like when he forced his way out of LA to Houston.

No confidence that Harris, Brand, and the clown show are doing this unfortunately.

[Kobblehead]

I wouldn't mind trying to get Terry Rozier off Charlotte if he came cheap.

I would do Richardson, Scott, Smith, and Korkmaz to match salaries. If they wanted Milton instead of Korkmaz, no problem.

If they were actually willing to take on Horford or Harris, even better. I'll gladly take the final year of Zeller.

[skulky]

I really hate the Chris Paul trades, I don’t see it being good enough, and the trade packages I see going out just box us in.

I definitely prefer sending out our assets for a player like graham/rozier, with do whatever we can to get graham. We really need another creator and shooting. Rozier and his shooting would be an improvement and probably cost less to acquire, but he’s not much of a creator or initiator. But if it’s like rozier/zeller for horford/shake 21 I’m down

[stormi]

Devonte Graham is going absolutely nowhere man

[stormi]

I really don't want to trade 21. That pick is so crucial for our depth and future.