Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

[LloydFree]

Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

Dude I like reading a lot of your posts. Please don't do this all summer though

No. No need. What's done is done. As long as Embiid is healthy, the team will be successful and all will be good. Perfect situation for Fultz to reach his potential too.

[eyeatoma]

wow, nice value for the Sixers getting a talent like Fultz for that little. I wonder who the odd man out between Fultz, Embiid, and Simmons will eventually be, since they fit together horribly

ROFL what???

They fit together perfectly!

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.

Fultz can play on or off the ball.. He thrived off the ball... Embiid's usage will go down now that he doesn't need to make so many plays...

[yourewrong]

ROFL what???

They fit together perfectly!

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.

Fultz can play on or off the ball.. He thrived off the ball... Embiid's usage will go down now that he doesn't need to make so many plays...

I think he could be okay off the ball, but he's not a knockdown shooter in the catch and shoot nor is he anything special moving without the ball.

[76thBearCub]

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.

Fultz can play on or off the ball.. He thrived off the ball... Embiid's usage will go down now that he doesn't need to make so many plays...

I think he could be okay off the ball, but he's not a knockdown shooter in the catch and shoot nor is he anything special moving without the ball.

Nothing is perfect. How does Jackson fit in then?

[76thBearCub]

Love the deal we made. Also love that we can look back on this absurd thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1573184) where that ridiculous Homer was demanding 3+Simmons and making rational discussion impossible. What a shocker that he turned out to be wrong.

I enjoy going back and giving an and1 to the person who made a ridiculous statement after it has been proven wrong.

[TTP]

Love the deal we made. Also love that we can look back on this absurd thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1573184) where that ridiculous Homer was demanding 3+Simmons and making rational discussion impossible. What a shocker that he turned out to be wrong.

I enjoy going back and giving an and1 to the person who made a ridiculous statement after it has been proven wrong.

That's why we need the shaqtin1 option.

[Gsraider]

Read on Twitter

We'll see if true. Maybe Hinkie is yet running the show

If that sac pick has protection then this is an absolute massacre of a trade. Currently it's pretty fair, probably sixers favored.

I hope I'm reading it the same way as you guys. I'm not sure that means there would be additional protections on the Sacto pick or additional reasons why Boston might get that pick too.

[nitocobola]

hope that we can seal the deal.

All this paul george **** 4 days before the draft is not good for us

[76thBearCub]

Love the deal we made. Also love that we can look back on this absurd thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1573184) where that ridiculous Homer was demanding 3+Simmons and making rational discussion impossible. What a shocker that he turned out to be wrong.

I enjoy going back and giving an and1 to the person who made a ridiculous statement after it has been proven wrong.

That's why we need the shaqtin1 option.

It's not politically correct to question if someone is being an idiot while there being an idiot.

[Sixersftw]

Read on Twitter

We'll see if true. Maybe Hinkie is yet running the show

If that sac pick has protection then this is an absolute massacre of a trade. Currently it's pretty fair, probably sixers favored.

I hope I'm reading it the same way as you guys. I'm not sure that means there would be additional protections on the Sacto pick or additional reasons why Boston might get that pick too.

If it exists, I imagine the protection is similar to the Lakers pick. top 1 protected and top 8 (?) protected. If not conveyed maybe they get an unprotected Sixers pick.

[XtremeDunkz]

hope that we can seal the deal.

All this paul george **** 4 days before the draft is not good for us

Deal is done. Even Ainge wouldn't renege on an agreed deal. He would be out of the league.

[ckchen]

If that sac pick has protection then this is an absolute massacre of a trade. Currently it's pretty fair, probably sixers favored.

I hope I'm reading it the same way as you guys. I'm not sure that means there would be additional protections on the Sacto pick or additional reasons why Boston might get that pick too.

If it exists, I imagine the protection is similar to the Lakers pick. top 1 protected and top 8 (?) protected. If not conveyed maybe they get an unprotected Sixers pick.

Right, maybe that's where the 2021 Sixers pick rumors come from.

[Sprewell4Three]

Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

Ok Mr NBA Scout, by who's standard is Fultz the 3rd best player in the draft? Your standard or someone elses?
It's getting ridiculous how people are now diminishing Fultz as a player.

[Gsraider]

I hope I'm reading it the same way as you guys. I'm not sure that means there would be additional protections on the Sacto pick or additional reasons why Boston might get that pick too.

If it exists, I imagine the protection is similar to the Lakers pick. top 1 protected and top 8 (?) protected. If not conveyed maybe they get an unprotected Sixers pick.

Right, maybe that's where the 2021 Sixers pick rumors come from.

I would be thrilled if that was the case. My concern is that there are possible ways that Boston could get Sacto's pick as well, even if they get LA's pick next year in the 2-5 range.

[Sprewell4Three]

Man some people on this board are constantly miserable smh.

I'm a Knicks fan, and I would be doing cartwheels if my team was able to acquire the talent that the sixers have. I really can't stand some fans on realgm though.

[MR28]

So are there no protections on the Kings pick?

[Gsraider]

Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

Ok Mr NBA Scout, by who's standard is Fultz the 3rd best player in the draft? Your standard or someone elses?
It's getting ridiculous how people are now diminishing Fultz as a player.

Why do you bother with this? There will always be people out there that think the top pick is not deserving of being the top pick. It's all scouting and guesswork, but by all accounts, Fultz is not only the top prospect from most scouts and GM's, but also the best fit in Philly as well. That is all we know right now. After the draft, as with all drafts, we'll find out whose right about their analysis. Just like guys that pick financial stocks, if we all knew in advance what was going to be successful, there would be no need for scouts or advance analysis. Who knows what will play out, but I'm happy now and that's all a GM has before the results are in.

[Sprewell4Three]

This is a great trade for the sixers. Not only did you guys get the best prospect in the draft, you guys have another playmaker. Ben Simmons is going to need a breather from running the team all the time.

[ProcessDoctor]

So are there no protections on the Kings pick?

I believe the tweet from the Boston beat writer is indicating there might be. We should hear all the details tomorrow...just hope BC doesn't throw anything extra in (except maybe Okafor lol).

[Ericb5]

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.

First off, Embiid's usage rate was higher than normal due to the minutes restriction. He probably will never have that usage rate again in his career.

Fultz and Simmons fit perfectly precisely because Fultz DOESN'T need the ball in his hands to be effective. He clearly can shoot and play off the ball. That's the beauty of this.

In addition, when the game is on the line, and we really needs someone to get their own shot, he can do that better than Simmons can. Like Irving in Cleveland, you sometimes need to give the ball to someone and get out of the way, and he will get the ball a lot in those situations.

Both Simmons and Fultz will be behind Embiid in priority on both offense and defense too. Even though Simmons will have the ball in his hands more than Fultz, the primary goal will be getting Embiid the ball, when in the half court, and the other guys will be playing off of him.

Fultz is very capable of moving without the ball, and spacing the court, and Simmons is going to be one of the best passers in the league, and will get him the ball in situations where he can be effective.

The mix of the three of them together is really the primary selling point of this deal in my mind.

I thought that Fultz was the 3rd best prospect in the draft, but there is no doubt that he fits Simmons and Embiid perfectly.


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Even if Fultz can play of the ball (which is questionable considering he's an iffy set shooter at best), it's clearly not making use of his skillset. Take Ball, who is in another league entirely as an off ball player if Ben is truly the guy.

Disagree entirely. Ball is a point guard and Fultz isn't. Fultz is a scorer and Ball isn't. They both can play off the ball, but Lonzo's primary strength and function in the league will be running a team and having the ball in his hands.

Very different players. I would compare Fultz more to Lilard, or Irving, and both of them are stars that require someone else to run the team in order for them to win. We have that in Simmons.

I think that even if Jackson ends up an equal player long term, that as long as Fultz is a really good player, it will be a good trade even if we lose it on points, which we will be unless he is a superstar.

The release valve for our 2 best players, the isolation scoring, the shooting, and the large war chest of draft assets that we had, all make this a good move in my mind.

I think it is basically worth the risk because we already have Simmons and Embiid. If we had nothing and were in the same position today then I wouldn't make the trade because we would just be in asset acquisition mode until we got our first star.

The reason I like the trade is that I feel we are in a different stage of the rebuild. I wouldn't have made this deal in 2014-2016.

We have established our true potential big 3, and now we just have to hope for health, and good player development.


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