Markelle Fultz Discussion

[Simmons25]

I can see it now.... Fultz is going to come out.. show he was the best player in the draft, get to the rim, be an excellent passer and shoot lights out... and instead of people saying they got him all wrong they will say "He worked hard to improve".

[LloydFree]

I can see it now.... Fultz is going to come out.. show he was the best player in the draft, get to the rim, be an excellent passer and shoot lights out... and instead of people saying they got him all wrong they will say "He worked hard to improve".

Hopefully that will be the case. Then we can all celebrate​ together and you can tell all the bad fans, they were wrong.

[Unbreakable99]

Well at least you let stats/facts get in the way of something that just isn't true. Simmons hasn't stepped on the court but is generational while Fultz gets treated like he's a Celtic......wait I think Tatum gets treated better here.

Guess we are going to throw batteries at Fultz in his first game, why not.

Seriously (not you btw), at least we could give him a game or two before everyone says he sucks. I would love to see Fultz put up 40 in the first game against Wall to shut all these haters up.

If Fultz can become as good as McCollum I'll be relieved. I won't be happy if he's only as good because we gave up a lot for him but at least he would be a good NBA player. I think he can at least get to that level.

Fair enough, 'can become' are the key words there. I've seen you mention him in the past, you do realize CJ stayed in school all 4 years of college, and took 2 years in the NBA to develop. CJ was 24 before he did anything significant, are you willing to wait on Fultz for 5 years??

Probably not. Point is, you guys are being a lil hard on him for his age....I know its a 'we want it right now' kinda mentality, it might happen like that, it might not. But jumping on a kid too early could ruin his confidence for forever, its happened time and time again.

What I hope your not saying is you expect him to be a fully developed CJ at 19, not like we should expect Simmons to be a fully developed Bron right now. How good was Embiid at 19....not as good as now, that took 4 years. Guess what, Ball's shot will stink cause people will actually guard him, but he will put up some good all around numbers to make himself look better cause that team doesn't have much rebounding or assists. Ball is also young and can develop, but that shot is hard to fix. He will make alot if left open of course, contested 3s in the NBA will be a huge problem....shots that Fultz will probably have more success with.

Back to Fultz, he already has a pretty developed game for his age, so its easy to question him. "He's already reached his peak', is the mentality. There are alot of things he can improve upon, but he has alot of special skills at his age also. Since your wanting him to be CJ.....give him 5 years....

I agree we need to be patient with him. I can't guaranteee I will though but me thinking logically is different than me as a fan wanting results faster lol. I think it may take about 3 years for Fultz to show that he may become a very good player. I see him struggling somewhat his first two years.

We as a fan base can't jump on him when he does shoot 2-12 and looks lost. What we should do and what I may post don't match though. I'm pretty sure I may panic if he does shoot 2-12 and isn't shooting well and may not look as good as other rookies and may look like he was overhyped. I think he has the skillset to become a top 50 player in the league in his prime but as a number one pick and what we gave up we need him to become a top 20 player at a minimum.

[Unbreakable99]

Well at least you let stats/facts get in the way of something that just isn't true. Simmons hasn't stepped on the court but is generational while Fultz gets treated like he's a Celtic......wait I think Tatum gets treated better here.

Guess we are going to throw batteries at Fultz in his first game, why not.

Seriously (not you btw), at least we could give him a game or two before everyone says he sucks. I would love to see Fultz put up 40 in the first game against Wall to shut all these haters up.

If Fultz can become as good as McCollum I'll be relieved. I won't be happy if he's only as good because we gave up a lot for him but at least he would be a good NBA player. I think he can at least get to that level.

CJ McCollum is a realistic outcome for Fultz. If he tightens up his handle and improves his shooting, he's the type player I can see as his ceiling. He isn't anything close to Dwayne Wade, because he's not close to being that kind of athlete, but CJ McCollum or Bradley Beal or Manu Ginobli... Fultz isn't going to overwhelm any defender physically, so that limits his upside, but if he continues to develop his all around Skillset, he could be very good.

I saw another old-head on here mention Andrew Toney as a realistic outcome a while ago. Believe it or not, I can totally see that. He has some of the same skills and movements. I would be ecstatic if Fultz could replicate that.

If Fultz becomes the threat Andrew Toney was then we should win a few championships. I hope he does become that. I want a second Boston strangler.

[GabeCerebro]

Maybe. I'm just saying he didn't get to the rim in summer league. DSJ did. Tatum did. Not Fultz.

Maaayyybbeeeee overreacting a tad over 2.5 summer league games dude.

I can only go off Summer League play. That's all we have. Maybe he will be able to get to the rim against actual NBA players on a consistent basis in real games next year instead of the D League and lower level players he was going against in Summer League. We'll see.

lol that isn't all you can go off of though. He was exceptionally great at getting to the rim and finishing in college. It'll transfer

[Chris76]

If Fultz can become as good as McCollum I'll be relieved. I won't be happy if he's only as good because we gave up a lot for him but at least he would be a good NBA player. I think he can at least get to that level.

Fair enough, 'can become' are the key words there. I've seen you mention him in the past, you do realize CJ stayed in school all 4 years of college, and took 2 years in the NBA to develop. CJ was 24 before he did anything significant, are you willing to wait on Fultz for 5 years??

Probably not. Point is, you guys are being a lil hard on him for his age....I know its a 'we want it right now' kinda mentality, it might happen like that, it might not. But jumping on a kid too early could ruin his confidence for forever, its happened time and time again.

What I hope your not saying is you expect him to be a fully developed CJ at 19, not like we should expect Simmons to be a fully developed Bron right now. How good was Embiid at 19....not as good as now, that took 4 years. Guess what, Ball's shot will stink cause people will actually guard him, but he will put up some good all around numbers to make himself look better cause that team doesn't have much rebounding or assists. Ball is also young and can develop, but that shot is hard to fix. He will make alot if left open of course, contested 3s in the NBA will be a huge problem....shots that Fultz will probably have more success with.

Back to Fultz, he already has a pretty developed game for his age, so its easy to question him. "He's already reached his peak', is the mentality. There are alot of things he can improve upon, but he has alot of special skills at his age also. Since your wanting him to be CJ.....give him 5 years....

I agree we need to be patient with him. I can't guaranteee I will though but me thinking logically is different than me as a fan wanting results faster lol. I think it may take about 3 years for Fultz to show that he may become a very good player. I see him struggling somewhat his first two years.

We as a fan base can't jump on him when he does shoot 2-12 and looks lost. What we should do and what I may post don't match though. I'm pretty sure I may panic if he does shoot 2-12 and isn't shooting well and may not look as good as other rookies and may look like he was overhyped. I think he has the skillset to become a top 50 player in the league in his prime but as a number one pick and what we gave up we need him to become a top 20 player at a minimum.

We're gonna need 6 or 7 good players to compete. If Fultz can be one of them than we should be good. Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, Covington, Saric is a good start. Redick, Holmes, Okafor, TLC, Stauskus, and a few others could fill in nicely.

Fultz going 2 for 12 should be very rare. He seems to be deadly when open, Ray Allen or Andrew Toney type accuracy. However, it's his shot creating that could be special. Close games we should have several options to get a bucket.

[LordCovington33]

Funny how celtics narrative changed so much from this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1566272
Here, sby proposed a trade (#10) that mirrored the actual one.

[HotelVitale]

Funny how celtics narrative changed so much from this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1566272
Here, sby proposed a trade (#10) that mirrored the actual one.

Interesting read: there were actually a bunch of reasonable posters in the middle who weighed the pros and cons and weren't excited about a deal but saw the rationale behind it--and by the last page it's just the homer brigade yelling 'gtfo, you're never getting Fultz!' By that point, it became okay to insist that #3, Saric, and the LAL pick wasn't enough and the Sixers would need to add more. Interesting to see how these threads evolve.

[BullyKing]

What I found more interesting in that topic is the lack of discussion about the now suddenly untouchable Tatum if they acquired the third pick.

[Sixerscan]

What I found more interesting in that topic is the lack of discussion about the now suddenly untouchable Tatum if they acquired the third pick.

So good.

[the_process]

What I found more interesting in that topic is the lack of discussion about the now suddenly untouchable Tatum if they acquired the third pick.

So good.

I don't know if it's in that thread or not; but the Boston take now that Tatum was clearly and always Ainge's number 1 choice, and he would have taken him even if he stayed at #1, always cracks me up.

[TTP]

This guy nailed it - might have found Danny Ainge's RealGM account:

Pick 1 in this draft to the 76ers for pick 3 and the Lakers unprotected pick next year.

Fultz is perfect for the 76ers next to Simmons.

Pick 3, Celtics get someone great, and next year get another shot at huge players in a draft that is much better for Boston. Tatum this year, and two picks in the top 5 or 10 next year and maybe even 1 and 2. Tatum, DeAndre Ayton, Luka Doncic, rebuild complete.

[aHealthy3]

Does anyone else follow Fultz on snapchat? He basically documents his whole life on his story. Little concerning that it seems like he's hardly been in the gym at all the last couple weeks..he's constantly driving around, eating fast food and posting "who up" snaps at 1 AM


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[Unbreakable99]

Does anyone else follow Fultz on snapchat? He basically documents his whole life on his story. Little concerning that it seems like he's hardly been in the gym at all the last couple weeks..he's constantly driving around, eating fast food and posting "who up" snaps at 1 AM


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No. I have no issues. He's working on his game. The only thing I'd like him to do is cut back on the fast food. He needs to eat better. Other than that I have no issues with his work ethic. That's the one thing I have zero concerns over. A guy who was on JV and wasn't a highly touted recruit as a sophomore who 3 years later is the number one pick is a guy who works on his craft.

[aHealthy3]

Does anyone else follow Fultz on snapchat? He basically documents his whole life on his story. Little concerning that it seems like he's hardly been in the gym at all the last couple weeks..he's constantly driving around, eating fast food and posting "who up" snaps at 1 AM


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No. I have no issues. He's working on his game. The only thing I'd like him to do is cut back on the fast food. He needs to eat better. Other than that I have no issues with his work ethic. That's the one thing I have zero concerns over. A guy who was on JV and wasn't a highly touted recruit as a sophomore who 3 years later is the number one pick is a guy who works on his craft.

If you watch his story every day for weeks like I have I feel like you may have a little less confidence in this post. I'm hoping for the best as well but he seems quite immature..

[Sixerscan]

Evaluating a guy's work ethic this way is dumb also there's literally a snap from 7 hours ago of him in the gym.

[Unbreakable99]

Does anyone else follow Fultz on snapchat? He basically documents his whole life on his story. Little concerning that it seems like he's hardly been in the gym at all the last couple weeks..he's constantly driving around, eating fast food and posting "who up" snaps at 1 AM


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No. I have no issues. He's working on his game. The only thing I'd like him to do is cut back on the fast food. He needs to eat better. Other than that I have no issues with his work ethic. That's the one thing I have zero concerns over. A guy who was on JV and wasn't a highly touted recruit as a sophomore who 3 years later is the number one pick is a guy who works on his craft.

If you watch his story every day for weeks like I have I feel like you may have a little less confidence in this post. I'm hoping for the best as well but he seems quite immature..

1. He's 19. He said not fully mature yet.
2. It's social media. That's what celebrities do. I follow him on Instagram. People like sharing their life and what's going on. I have no problem with that.
3. He's not going to show you everything. Do you know how easy it is to record something and post it? It doesn't take long. You make it seem as if he's doing so much. He's just posting pics and short videos.
4. I say again. He went from a nobody to the top pick in 3 years. I have concerns on other things but the last thing that worries me is his work ethic. I can guarantee that is one thing I don't think anyone will ever need to question.

[76ciology]

Does anyone else follow Fultz on snapchat? He basically documents his whole life on his story. Little concerning that it seems like he's hardly been in the gym at all the last couple weeks..he's constantly driving around, eating fast food and posting "who up" snaps at 1 AM


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No. I have no issues. He's working on his game. The only thing I'd like him to do is cut back on the fast food. He needs to eat better. Other than that I have no issues with his work ethic. That's the one thing I have zero concerns over. A guy who was on JV and wasn't a highly touted recruit as a sophomore who 3 years later is the number one pick is a guy who works on his craft.

If you watch his story every day for weeks like I have I feel like you may have a little less confidence in this post. I'm hoping for the best as well but he seems quite immature..

REALGM 76ers FORUM, ANYONE HERE?

[KKell2507]

Markelle seems to be getting lost in the shuffle in the hype of our team. Seems like its all about Simmons being ready and the addition of JJ Redick that will catapult is. And honestly I agree. In terms of focal points in the offense, he should be 4th. And my god is he going to be a deadly 4th option, even as a rookie.

Get JJ going in the 1st the same way the Clippers did. That opens up the court for Simmons and Embiid in the middle in both pick and rolls and post ups. All the while Fultz waits his turn to take over in the 4th. The amount of options this team has is going to be insane. Brett Brown has probably been salivating since June.

[Mik317]

Fultz is walking into probably the best situation for him. For once he isn't the only option on his team...this way he can learn the NBA game without having to be the man from jump...that's pretty key. Should help build good habits instead of bad ones that get overlooked because "welp no one else is there tho". If you really want to be negative, it also allows us to hide him from his weaknesses too via not overloading him. Its also rather rare for one of our rookies lately too...to actually get a chance to well...be a rookie....and not the savior of our souls.