Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline?

the_process · Post #1301 » by **the_process** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:32 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
yourewrong wrote:
Skates wrote:Someone create a fake Twitter account and pump out some ridiculous Okafor rumors, the older ones are getting kind of lame and stale.

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Literally swoop in. They will send a flock of pelicans to fly Okafor to New Orleans.

EDIT: It's called a "pod" of pelicans.

Love that you looked that up.

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Post #1302 » by **tk76** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:01 pm

LloydFree wrote:12.4 is a decent Defensive Rebound % for a Stretch 4. 11.4 is a horrible Defensive Rebound % for a Center.

I think you are talking about TReb% as opposed to DReb%.
The stats I have put Ibaka at 18.5%, which is right around his career number. Jah at 15%. Maybe you are taking TReb%?

Being a stretch 4 should not decrease your Defensive rebounding. Ersan and Dario are both career around 20%. Jah below even good SF numbers... SF. PG13 is 20%, Iggy 16%, Ariza 20%, Barnes 18%.

12.5% is Sam Dekker bad.

Sportfan73 · Post #1303 » by **Sportfan73** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:07 pm

Chicago is hurting the worst right now. Get what you can and get it over with.

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eagereyez · Post #1304 » by **eagereyez** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:18 pm

Is he gone yet?

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kriss73 · Post #1305 » by **kriss73** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:24 pm

Where is Okafor?

Sportfan73 · Post #1306 » by **Sportfan73** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:24 pm

Kyler just said on twitter that we have been offered much better than a Mario for Jah straight swap. Not that I think Mario is great he's been awful but nonetheless that is decent news offer wise.

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Mik317 · Post #1307 » by **Mik317** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:27 pm

My irrational love for Mario makes me think that is a great deal...but he looked like rabid ass and can't play on a team that needs wings just as badly as we do..sooooo

also dont he and Dario have beef?

Sportfan73 · Post #1308 » by **Sportfan73** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:28 pm

Mik317 wrote:My irrational love for Mario makes me think that is a great deal...but he looked like rabid ass and can't play on a team that needs wings just as badly as we do..sooooo

also dont he and Dario have beef?

Yeah not so much that I'm interested in mario himself I just like the idea that we could get a player like him plus a pick

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eagereyez · Post #1309 » by **eagereyez** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:34 pm

Mario is giving Okafor a good run for worst player in the NBA this year. That said, I'd take my chances with Mario. His NBA niche is a lot clearer than Okafor's.

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Ericb5 · Post #1310 » by **Ericb5** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:35 pm

Mik317 wrote:My irrational love for Mario makes me think that is a great deal...but he looked like rabid ass and can't play on a team that needs wings just as badly as we do..sooooo

also dont he and Dario have beef?

Mario is one of these kids that is clearly being stomped on by an overly demanding coach. Maybe he deserves to be stomped on, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he played better in a different environment.

I still have hopes for him. It's the alleged Mario/Dario beef that gives me more pause than his play has.

Sportfan73 · Post #1311 » by **Sportfan73** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:36 pm

I think just take Valentine plus whatever we can get even if it's the worse of the 2 firsts for Jah and that will be it. He's on a 4 year rookie deal for us to evaluate him.

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Mik317 · Post #1312 » by **Mik317** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:37 pm

All I know is that the peeps who are calling Jah the worst player in the NBA better not be mad if we get **** for him. I'm not a fan of Jah's game. Never have been. But come on guys

Post #1313 » by **Sixerscan** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:38 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
Mik317 wrote:My irrational love for Mario makes me think that is a great deal...but he looked like rabid ass and can't play on a team that needs wings just as badly as we do..sooooo

also dont he and Dario have beef?

Yeah not so much that I'm interested in mario himself I just like the idea that we could get a player like him plus a pick

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To be clear:

1. There's no hezonja for okafor rumor. He just said they're being offered more than hezonja.
2. He also said that he think valentine is a better prospect that hezonja. This is more about him thinking hezonja sucks than any kind of news.

Sportfan73 · Post #1314 » by **Sportfan73** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:39 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
Mik317 wrote:My irrational love for Mario makes me think that is a great deal...but he looked like rabid ass and can't play on a team that needs wings just as badly as we do..sooooo

also dont he and Dario have beef?

Yeah not so much that I'm interested in mario himself I just like the idea that we could get a player like him plus a pick

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To be clear:

1. There's no hezonja for okafor rumor. He just said they're being offered more than hezonja.
2. He also said that he think valentine is a better prospect that hezonja. This is more about him thinking hezonja sucks than any kind of news.

When you factor in the extra year on his deal i tend to agree. The playmaking potential of valentine with shooting is nice.

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eagereyez · Post #1315 » by **eagereyez** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:42 pm

Mik317 wrote:All I know is that the peeps who are calling Jah the worst player in the NBA better not be mad if we get **** for him. I'm not a fan of Jah's game. Never have been. But come on guys

I'd be thrilled if he fetched a lotto protected 1st.

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eagereyez · Post #1316 » by **eagereyez** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:42 pm

Mik317 wrote:All I know is that the peeps who are calling Jah the worst player in the NBA better not be mad if we get **** for him. I'm not a fan of Jah's game. Never have been. But come on guys

I'd be thrilled if he fetched a lotto protected 1st.

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smittybanton · Post #1317 » by **smittybanton** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:44 pm

76ciology wrote:

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Bulls are pretty much where we were when only had Jrue and not much else. They have serious decisions to make. They can't make a deal until they explore what's on the table for every single member of their roster. If they are exploring what they can get for Butler, then they are also having to deal with Danny Ainge's lowballing. Take your time. Then bang that deal with Denver.

NBA Moses · Post #1318 » by **NBA Moses** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:45 pm

Okafor desperately needs a change of scenery but Im glad Colangelo hasnt given him away.

This kid has unique talent, special talent that could blow us all away in a few years time.

Keep Okafor . Dont give him away. No protected picks. Top 8 this year or go take a hike.

Post #1319 » by **tk76** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:47 pm

Maybe they have just waited for Valentine's day to complete the trade for Valentine?

TTP · Post #1320 » by **TTP** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:52 pm

Mik317 wrote:All I know is that the peeps who are calling Jah the worst player in the NBA better not be mad if we get **** for him. I'm not a fan of Jah's game. Never have been. But come on guys

Not sure how this makes sense. The worst player in the NBA this season (when factoring in minutes played) is probably Brandon Ingram. That doesn't mean I think Brandon Ingram is worthless. Same for Marquese Chriss, another contender.

Note that I haven't even indicated whether I liked or disliked these players. I still like Ingram as a prospect but am rational enough to admit that he's been awful.

Also, regardless of your personal position on a player, you always want return to be as high as possible.