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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1301 » by Sixteen » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:09 am

remember how cocky Ben Simmons was with regards to Donovan Mitchell and ROTY :lol: good times
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1302 » by Kolkmania » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:33 am

With the Lowry signing I think it's not debatable that we're better than before the trade deadline.

Starters: Embiid (40 min), Batum (30 min), Harris (40 min), Melton (30 min) and Maxey (40 min).
Bench: Hield (20 min), Lowry (10 min), Reed (15 min), Oubre (10 min)

I like it better if Covington somehow recovers, otherwise Reed needs to play some forward minutes to provide defense/athleticism in those spots since I don't trust Oubre and think he's better suited as a 2/3 than 3/4.

Health is obviously the biggest factor and we need some time for Lowry and Hield to mesh with the starters. I don't think we're good enough, but that starting lineup has proven to be one of the best in the league. So we've got a puncher's chance.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1303 » by Kolkmania » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:58 am

What is the status of Melton and Batum by the way? Are we giving them an extra few weeks to use the All Star break as additional recovery period or are they expected to miss more time?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1304 » by eyeatoma » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:38 am

Kolkmania wrote:What is the status of Melton and Batum by the way? Are we giving them an extra few weeks to use the All Star break as additional recovery period or are they expected to miss more time?


They said they could come back before the break 2 games left, but they're out today.

If not they should be back after the break.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1305 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:44 am

I wonder if we would have traded for Hield if the Bogdanovic+Burks deal didnt broke down
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1306 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:22 am

Buddy Hield since the trade:

22.3 PPG
4.3 RPG
6.7 APG
1.6 SPG
54.5% FG
46.7% 3PT
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1307 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 am

Looks like Rozier and Jimmy wont be back on our upcoming game against them. Need that W. Then hopefully, we can keep our rhythm once we get Melton and Batum back.
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Post#1308 » by Arsenal » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:28 am

76ciology wrote:Looks like Rozier and Jimmy wont be back on our upcoming game against them. Need that W. Then hopefully, we can keep our rhythm once we get Melton and Batum back.


Rozier, Butler, JRich will be out and maybe Robinson also. Finally an even matchup where we have a good shot to win.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1309 » by eyeatoma » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:14 am

Terrific win, Hield has to start. The backup pg minutes between Lowry and Payne will be interesting.

What's up with Tobi? Sick again or?
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Post#1310 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:26 am

eyeatoma wrote:Terrific win, Hield has to start. The backup pg minutes between Lowry and Payne will be interesting.

What's up with Tobi? Sick again or?


He texted me and said he flew to Hungary to watch the Taylor Swift concert, he’ll be back after allstar break.
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Post#1311 » by eyeatoma » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am

Kolkmania wrote:With the Lowry signing I think it's not debatable that we're better than before the trade deadline.

Starters: Embiid (40 min), Batum (30 min), Harris (40 min), Melton (30 min) and Maxey (40 min).
Bench: Hield (20 min), Lowry (10 min), Reed (15 min), Oubre (10 min)

I like it better if Covington somehow recovers, otherwise Reed needs to play some forward minutes to provide defense/athleticism in those spots since I don't trust Oubre and think he's better suited as a 2/3 than 3/4.

Health is obviously the biggest factor and we need some time for Lowry and Hield to mesh with the starters. I don't think we're good enough, but that starting lineup has proven to be one of the best in the league. So we've got a puncher's chance.



Gotta start Hield, no way you can have him only getting 20 minutes. Dude is performing like a 3rd star. His gravity must be factored in the plyaoffs.
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Post#1312 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:16 am

I think Hield should be our third option. He plays that role Maxey play for us last season.

Maxey/Lowry/Payne
Hield/Melton
Batum/Oubre
Tobias/Roco? C4? Martin?
Embiid/Reed
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1313 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:02 am

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1314 » by eyeatoma » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:10 am

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That's a nice lineup, and if Cov is still hurt could have the buyout player there, or even Ricky Council...
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1315 » by Kolkmania » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:13 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:With the Lowry signing I think it's not debatable that we're better than before the trade deadline.

Starters: Embiid (40 min), Batum (30 min), Harris (40 min), Melton (30 min) and Maxey (40 min).
Bench: Hield (20 min), Lowry (10 min), Reed (15 min), Oubre (10 min)

I like it better if Covington somehow recovers, otherwise Reed needs to play some forward minutes to provide defense/athleticism in those spots since I don't trust Oubre and think he's better suited as a 2/3 than 3/4.

Health is obviously the biggest factor and we need some time for Lowry and Hield to mesh with the starters. I don't think we're good enough, but that starting lineup has proven to be one of the best in the league. So we've got a puncher's chance.



Gotta start Hield, no way you can have him only getting 20 minutes. Dude is performing like a 3rd star. His gravity must be factored in the plyaoffs.


It's been a couple of days and obviously since Embiid is out, we desperately need Hield's offense. However, when we have Embiid, Harris and Maxey on the court we need plus defenders for the other two spots. But sure, if he plays terrific for the remainder of the season, the minutes of Hield and Melton can switch. It was more an indication of the rough minute allocation in the PO.
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Post#1316 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:38 am

Kolkmania wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:With the Lowry signing I think it's not debatable that we're better than before the trade deadline.

Starters: Embiid (40 min), Batum (30 min), Harris (40 min), Melton (30 min) and Maxey (40 min).
Bench: Hield (20 min), Lowry (10 min), Reed (15 min), Oubre (10 min)

I like it better if Covington somehow recovers, otherwise Reed needs to play some forward minutes to provide defense/athleticism in those spots since I don't trust Oubre and think he's better suited as a 2/3 than 3/4.

Health is obviously the biggest factor and we need some time for Lowry and Hield to mesh with the starters. I don't think we're good enough, but that starting lineup has proven to be one of the best in the league. So we've got a puncher's chance.



Gotta start Hield, no way you can have him only getting 20 minutes. Dude is performing like a 3rd star. His gravity must be factored in the plyaoffs.


It's been a couple of days and obviously since Embiid is out, we desperately need Hield's offense. However, when we have Embiid, Harris and Maxey on the court we need plus defenders for the other two spots. But sure, if he plays terrific for the remainder of the season, the minutes of Hield and Melton can switch. It was more an indication of the rough minute allocation in the PO.


Hield is no slouch on defense. He’s actually good in reading the defense and rotating.

If the opponent has one guy to attack on defense, it’s Maxey.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1317 » by Kolkmania » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:12 am

76ciology wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Gotta start Hield, no way you can have him only getting 20 minutes. Dude is performing like a 3rd star. His gravity must be factored in the plyaoffs.


It's been a couple of days and obviously since Embiid is out, we desperately need Hield's offense. However, when we have Embiid, Harris and Maxey on the court we need plus defenders for the other two spots. But sure, if he plays terrific for the remainder of the season, the minutes of Hield and Melton can switch. It was more an indication of the rough minute allocation in the PO.


Hield is no slouch on defense. He’s actually good in reading the defense and rotating.

If the opponent has one guy to attack on defense, it’s Maxey.


It did strike me that his teams consistently have better on-off numbers when he's on the court. But quite honestly I can also recall plays when he was at the Pacers that his man-to-man defense was really poor (but really subjective).

Perhaps his defense is better than I anticipated, but I feel that Melton is underappreciated. His deflections, steal and block rates are really good. Something that will be important since Embiid, Harris, Maxey and Batum are not particularly great at creating transition opportunities.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1318 » by Bum Adebayo » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:27 pm

Hield is much better than Melton, you start Hield, if the defense is an issue you start looking to rotate other players, Buddy is untouchable.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1319 » by phillynative » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:55 pm

I think with Maxey , Hield in the backcourt you need a long 3&D wing. Oubre should return to the bench once Batum returns. But Batum is not the long term solution.

I think we will also see some 3 guard lineups
Maxey, Melton ,Hield...
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Post#1320 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:18 pm

phillynative wrote:I think with Maxey , Hield in the backcourt you need a long 3&D wing. Oubre should return to the bench once Batum returns. But Batum is not the long term solution.

I think we will also see some 3 guard lineups
Maxey, Melton ,Hield...


I hope we dont do 3 guard line-ups in preparation for the Celtics then we do a combination of:

Tobias/Oubre
Batum/Roco or Council

If Celts have bigs to slowdown Embiid, we should prepare a depth of wings to slowdown Brown and Tatum. Once we take care of defense, scoring is easy to match.
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