2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft

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There are 9 prospects that will be less than 19 years old on draft night

Cooper Flagg
Jeremiah Fears
Ace Bailey
Khaman Maluach
Noa Essengue
Joan Beringer
Boogie Fland
Rocco Zikarsky
Michael Ruzic

Last time 8+ 18 yr olds got drafted was '04

Trade back and select Essengue

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[Stanford]

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Do not overthink this!

[Iscull]

Daryl should not overthink this. Take the 6'10 stud with the >7' wingspan. Take the five star, McDonald's AA sitting right there at the top.

Take Derik Queen.

He's good, but will Morey take him this high when he can't shoot? I don't think he will, although he will be great in this league.

Morey's rep is all about shooting, its hard to see him taking Queen this high....unless he trades down.

He shoots 77% from FT line. He has the capacity to shoot, he's just never been pushed/asked to do it.

Look at how much Bona progressed in one year. I think DQ will get A LOT better.

[zaz102]

Right now, I'm leaning toward Edgecombe due to his strong work ethic.

Might be recency bias, but i see both Maxey and McCain as flawed players that were propelled quickly by their strong work ethic. I'm not sure enough about the other players' work ethic, but I've heard of it being very strong for VJ.

It would suck having all our top young guys being guards, but even if you have four guards you would pick a Steph Curry over Jalen McDaniels all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

[Iscull]

I wanna like Queen but the sleevealytics are not on his side. I can't remember a big that rocked the fat kid at the pool look and succeeded. A perhaps fatal strike against him.

Luka, Jokic, Anthony Davis...

[Negrodamus]

I wanna like Queen but the sleevealytics are not on his side. I can't remember a big that rocked the fat kid at the pool look and succeeded. A perhaps fatal strike against him.

I'm definitely willing to listen to the sleevealytics, I just need to see the busts who covered up at the collegiate level. I can't think of any player who went long sleeves which suggests Queen is 1 of 1.

I will take your point about "fat kid". I have a storied history of liking chonkers with skill (Dedric Lawson anyone?) who ended up playing in China.

[Covi_Marsh]

Curry to Jalen McDaniels is crazy

That’s like saying you take Kevin Durant over Denver’s version of Russell Westbrook all day

[sodmoraes]

VJ is almost a year and half older than the other elite prospects in this draft. Ughhh.

Imagine Bailey with one year and a half of nba training. If hes not completly stupid, he would be a way better prospect than Edgecombe( in my opinion he already is).

[sodmoraes]

The issues I keep coming back to with Edgecombe is his astonishingly bad off ball defense and his sneaky poor % at the rim. The touch around the rim being so bad at times was not something I expected. Mix in that he's firmly a SG and is very skinny makes me somewhat scared to take him at 3. I'd love him at 5-10 though.

So he´s like a premium version of Melton?

[Negrodamus]

Daryl should not overthink this. Take the 6'10 stud with the >7' wingspan. Take the five star, McDonald's AA sitting right there at the top.

Take Derik Queen.

He's good, but will Morey take him this high when he can't shoot? I don't think he will, although he will be great in this league.

Morey's rep is all about shooting, its hard to see him taking Queen this high....unless he trades down.

He shoots 77% from FT line. He has the capacity to shoot, he's just never been pushed/asked to do it.

Look at how much Bona progressed in one year. I think DQ will get A LOT better.

Anthony Davis college stats: 3 for 20 from 3, 71% FT
Kevin Love college stats: 35% 3FG, 77% FT
Boogie Cousins: 17% 3FG, 60% FT
Julius Randle: 17% 3FG, 70% FT
Alp Sengun: 19% 3FG, 81% FT

I have faith that a 78% FT shooter can become a pick and pop option. Speaking of which, while Queen gets hype for being a great college iso scoring big, his off ball game is just as remarkable: excellent screen setter and roll man, finds open space to cut and give ballhandlers an open pass, does a nice job positioning himself to tip in missed shots.

I just sped watched the UF game. My main concern: he was asked to play too many minutes this year and wore down as the game went on. He played as many minutes as Flagg, Edgecombe, Kon, and Fears while still getting himself into ideal shape. I think if he commits himself (which he has so far) to becoming a Kevin Love story of losing bad weight and adding good weight, then the minutes can go up. As of now, I think the sweet spot would be 20-25 minutes as a rookie running around setting screens and generating assists to Maxey, McCain, PG, Grimes, etc. That UF game was enlightening since those guards had absolutely no idea what they were doing and the spacing was brutal for Queen.

[Negrodamus]

Worth noting, Ace Bailey played 33 mpg, which is second only to Tre for most mpg in the projected lottery. If he's able to provide positive impact on the court for an NBA team, that does count for something since he's clearly a cardio king.

[Covi_Marsh]

The issues I keep coming back to with Edgecombe is his astonishingly bad off ball defense and his sneaky poor % at the rim. The touch around the rim being so bad at times was not something I expected. Mix in that he's firmly a SG and is very skinny makes me somewhat scared to take him at 3. I'd love him at 5-10 though.

So he´s like a premium version of Melton?

I’d say he’s Jalen Suggs.

[Negrodamus]

I watched Tre Johnson have a clean look at the basket and he jumped like he was going to dunk it, but didn't seem to get high enough and just laid it in. That clip is on repeat in my head as I look at Tre's 37.5 inch vert number being passed around over and over again.

[Covi_Marsh]

Right now, I'm leaning toward Edgecombe due to his strong work ethic.

Might be recency bias, but i see both Maxey and McCain as flawed players that were propelled quickly by their strong work ethic. I'm not sure enough about the other players' work ethic, but I've heard of it being very strong for VJ.

It would suck having all our top young guys being guards, but even if you have four guards you would pick a Steph Curry over Jalen McDaniels all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

You would pick a Kevin Durant over Isaac Okoro all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

[FireMorey]

If Edgecombe was 6'8 I'd be all in. Not big on 6'4 guards who are neither elite distributors nor elite shooters or ball handlers. If I'm drafting a guard, they have to be elite at one of those 3 skills. I think he has a wing's game in a guard's body.

[zaz102]

Right now, I'm leaning toward Edgecombe due to his strong work ethic.

Might be recency bias, but i see both Maxey and McCain as flawed players that were propelled quickly by their strong work ethic. I'm not sure enough about the other players' work ethic, but I've heard of it being very strong for VJ.

It would suck having all our top young guys being guards, but even if you have four guards you would pick a Steph Curry over Jalen McDaniels all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

You would pick a Kevin Durant over Isaac Okoro all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

My point was about BPA is more important than fit. If the BPA is a forward that's perfect, if it's a guard, then you still take the guard.

[ivysixer2000]

That is true. I did see he shot horrible like his first 3 games from the FT line and since he didn’t have high volume that affected him the rest of the year. I believe he shot 80% from the line after those 3 games. He also shot like 90% in high school so I don’t think there’s a Giannis Ben Simmons flag there. But you are correct. He would need to learn the defensive rotations. On offense the role should be open 3, (close out then drive) or swing to next man for open 3. Oubre has tunnel vision and manages that much so I’m not too concerned there. That’s smaller role. Defense we should be expecting a lot so not playing within Nurse weird screen would make him unplayable although I expect much of regular season to be switch everything defense apart from Embiid. Postseason would be where the exotic zones appear. If he doesn’t know it rotations by then, we have a problem.

I do hate that we ignore Oubre on this team as he really didn't have to come here.

This team needs help on the wings, and pretty much has for years.

[SixthStreet]

If you take a guard at 3 he better have guard skills. I'd MUCH rather take Fears than Edgecombe.

My mind will change but as of today I think Fears is BPA at 3 and I think I'd take him and figure out the roster later.

[Covi_Marsh]

Right now, I'm leaning toward Edgecombe due to his strong work ethic.

Might be recency bias, but i see both Maxey and McCain as flawed players that were propelled quickly by their strong work ethic. I'm not sure enough about the other players' work ethic, but I've heard of it being very strong for VJ.

It would suck having all our top young guys being guards, but even if you have four guards you would pick a Steph Curry over Jalen McDaniels all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

You would pick a Kevin Durant over Isaac Okoro all day. Not that any of the players are these two, just making a point.

My point was about BPA is more important than fit. If the BPA is a forward that's perfect, if it's a guard, then you still take the guard.

Absolutely! I’m hoping Spurs take Bailey so we can have Harper.

[sodmoraes]

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I think thats the vision we should have if we draft Ace: simplify his game in the first couple of years( just defend and CS from 3), and hope that, with training and getting stronger, he can become a more complete player on the future, without losing too much eficiency. I think he can learn a lot from PG, since they have similar styles of game( lets hope he doesnt become a podcaster ).