Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[LloydFree]

They're crazy if they think a 28 year old averaging 7.5 ppg for his career can fetch a 1st round pick.

They can have our 2nd rounder (not the Knicks one) and expirings to match and that's all they're getting.

I don't think it's that crazy, if you're also dumping 9 million in dead salary on them. It likely would take that 1st round pick just to dump Bradley, Porier and Ferguson for nothing in return.

[Kobblehead]

They can keep him, then. I like his skillset but he has little to no impact or production to warrant wasting a 1st round pick on.

[youngcrev]

Lol... We're not taking on Blake's deal. That's terrible. Probably wouldn't even be able to re-sign Lauri with how crazy team salary would be after that.

He's only temporary and his salary basically matches Tobias'.

I am not saying Blake is not terrible. I'm just saying it carries over a big salary slot and gives you extra time to decide what to do instead of by the trade deadline. Move Griffin on draft night and it's inconsequential cap-wise. You have RFA rights on Lauri, you can let that drag out a little if need be. No way he gets much more than Bertans.

Wright and Blake at 47M next year vs Tobias at 36.

I don't see why Lauri wouldn't get as much if not more than Bertans.

It would be adding a ridiculous amount of money next year (particularly when you factor in the tax) for a product that's probably not any better.

[LloydFree]

They can keep him, then. I like his skillset but he has little to no impact or production to warrant wasting a 1st round pick on.

The #25 pick in the draft isn't a a kings ransom. Unless that pick is needed for a bigger potential deal at the deadline, I don't mind giving it away.

Late 1sts aren't that valuable. Last year's draft shows those late 1st round picks aren't much better than 2nds, if you have a GM that knows what he's doing. Xavier Tillman, Robert Woodward, Isaiah Joe, Paul Reed and Undrafted Mason Jones, are all better than everybody picked outside of the Lottery, except Emmanuel Quickly, Desmond Bane Saddiq Bey and maybe Tyrese Maxey.

[Kobblehead]

It still seems like a gross overpay for someone as relatively inconsequential as Delon Wright. I wouldn't even have given them a 1st rounder for Derrick Rose.

[LloydFree]

It still seems like a gross overpay for someone as relatively inconsequential as Delon Wright. I wouldn't even have given them a 1st rounder for Derrick Rose.

I hope they don't have to give up a 1st round pick for a player of that caliber either, but I'd rather that than watching what this team looks like everytime Simmons and Shake are off the court for two minutes.

[SparksFly87]

Beal ,Bertans and Troy Brown Jr for
Simmons,Mike Scott,Korkmaz,Ferguson ,Poirer and 2 future 1sts.

Philly adds win now pieces and firepower around embiid.

Wizards get a center piece.

[51X3RF4N]

I am firmly in the camp now that says Morey likely won't be making a move until closer to the deadline, and likely all the way up until the day of, when he feels he can get the best deal.

I also don't think anything major happens. Morey knows the value of continuity on the roster.

I could see a business decision like Danny Green being sent out to get some longer term contracts on the books for similar role players.

Players I do not see being traded, short of a superstar coming back:

1. Joel
2. Ben
3. Tobias
4. Seth
5. Dwight
6. Joe (due to the leaked draft plan)

Anyone else I think is fair game, even Shake.

This team sorely lacks a true PG. I could even see a scenario where 2 PGs are brought in, one to start instead of Danny and one to guide the 2nd unit with a scoring punch.

Shake has been, well, shaky this season compared to last. His 3pt shots aren't falling and he's not showing the same level of aggressiveness as a scorer because I think he's being asked to do more creating, which isn't his strength.

Bring in a PG for creation off the bench and let Shake loose as a scorer. Or trade Shake for a very good return of a vet who is better at creating.

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[Kobblehead]

I still don't view Bradley Beal as a guy that can beat defenders off the dribble and score unassisted buckets in the halfcourt against playoff defenses. No way I am paying a superstar package to acquire him.

[phillynative]

I still don't view Bradley Beal as a guy that can beat defenders off the dribble and score unassisted buckets in the halfcourt against playoff defenses. No way I am paying a superstar package to acquire him.

In comparison to who? He seemed to break down defenders just fine. Hes no kyrie but he has notably improved his shotcreation and playmaking. Im more concerned with his defense.

[Kobblehead]

I still don't view Bradley Beal as a guy that can beat defenders off the dribble and score unassisted buckets in the halfcourt against playoff defenses. No way I am paying a superstar package to acquire him.

In comparison to who? He seemed to break down defenders just fine. Hes no kyrie but he has notably improved his shotcreation and playmaking. Im more concerned with his defense.

In comparison to other go-to perimeter scoring options that carry a big scoring load. Beal has a bunch of fake scoring production aided heavily by assisted buckets. He's just not a natural shotcreator. And he's an awful slasher that puts absolutely zero pressure on opposing defenses.

Percentage of FGs inside the arc that are assisted:
Bradley Beal - 42.3% this year, 45% for his career
Zach Lavine - 33.1% this year, 37.8% for his career

Percentage of FGA at the rim:
Bradley Beal - 16.5% (pathetic)
Zach Lavine - 29.9%

Lavine is a far better shotcreator and far more imposing slasher and provides just as much if not more by way of shooting

[phillynative]

I still don't view Bradley Beal as a guy that can beat defenders off the dribble and score unassisted buckets in the halfcourt against playoff defenses. No way I am paying a superstar package to acquire him.

In comparison to who? He seemed to break down defenders just fine. Hes no kyrie but he has notably improved his shotcreation and playmaking. Im more concerned with his defense.

In comparison to other go-to perimeter scoring options that carry a big scoring load. Beal has a bunch of fake scoring production aided heavily by assisted buckets. He's just not a natural shotcreator. And he's an awful slasher that puts absolutely zero pressure on opposing defenses.

Percentage of FGs inside the arc that are assisted:
Bradley Beal - 42.3% this year, 45% for his career
Zach Lavine - 33.1% this year, 37.8% for his career

Percentage of FGA at the rim:
Bradley Beal - 16.5% (pathetic)
Zach Lavine - 29.9%

Lavine is a far better shotcreator and far more imposing slasher and provides just as much if not more by way of shooting

You comparing him to zach lavine who has always been a slasher&3 guy who has added ball handling. Thats not the best part of Beals game. Beal is able to set up shots with his range and able to get to any spot on the floor and rise up and hit the shot.

But i do agree if that stat is correct that is a little alarming. You want your best scorer to be able to get to the bucket and draw fouls when his shot isnt falling(rare occurance for Beal).

Do you happen to have that stat for Cjmcculom?

[Kobblehead]

In comparison to who? He seemed to break down defenders just fine. Hes no kyrie but he has notably improved his shotcreation and playmaking. Im more concerned with his defense.

In comparison to other go-to perimeter scoring options that carry a big scoring load. Beal has a bunch of fake scoring production aided heavily by assisted buckets. He's just not a natural shotcreator. And he's an awful slasher that puts absolutely zero pressure on opposing defenses.

Percentage of FGs inside the arc that are assisted:
Bradley Beal - 42.3% this year, 45% for his career
Zach Lavine - 33.1% this year, 37.8% for his career

Percentage of FGA at the rim:
Bradley Beal - 16.5% (pathetic)
Zach Lavine - 29.9%

Lavine is a far better shotcreator and far more imposing slasher and provides just as much if not more by way of shooting

You comparing him to zach lavine who has always been a slasher&3 guy who has added ball handling. Thats not the best part of Beals game. Beal is able to set up shots with his range and able to get to any spot on the floor and rise up and hit the shot.

But i do agree if that stat is correct that is a little alarming. You want your best scorer to be able to get to the bucket and draw fouls when his shot isnt falling(rare occurance for Beal).

Do you happen to have that stat for Cjmcculom?

So why pay a monster trade package for a guy who can't score unassisted buckets inside the arc and put pressure on opposing defenses? Those are playoff traits that you need to take the next step. Beal tricks everyone with his ppg and efficiency. Truth is, he's not much of a scorer. He just eats on a combination of high usage and assisted buckets.

McCollum is an even worse slasher (.096 of his fga occur at the rim this year, 17% of them for his career), but a far more lethal creator off the dribble (just 25% of his buckets inside the arc are assisted).

[the_process]

DET gets Scott, Ferguson, and 2021 PHI 1st

PHI gets Wright and Bertans

WSH gets Danny Green, 2021 NYK 2nd, and 2023 ABC 2nd


Wright/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Thybulle/Joe/Tucker*
Simmons/Korkmaz
Harris/Bertans/Reed*
Embiid/Howard/Bradley/Poirier

[Kobblehead]

Now that Slo Mo is shooting threes, he's a game-changing piece.

He can handle and create in a pinch. He can defend multiple positions. He's huge. And now he shoots threes.

Kyle Anderson is a must-have frontcourt addition for us.

Give them Seth Curry plus salary.

[Negrodamus]

Now that Slo Mo is shooting threes, he's a game-changing piece.

He can handle and create in a pinch. He can defend multiple positions. He's huge. And now he shoots threes.

Kyle Anderson is a must-have frontcourt addition for us.

Give them Seth Curry plus salary.

I've been on the Kyle Anderson train for some time. I don't think Memphis is going to part with him since they are pushing for the playoffs this year.

[LloydFree]

DET gets Scott, Ferguson, and 2021 PHI 1st

PHI gets Wright and Bertans

WSH gets Danny Green, 2021 NYK 2nd, and 2023 ABC 2nd


Wright/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Thybulle/Joe/Tucker*
Simmons/Korkmaz
Harris/Bertans/Reed*
Embiid/Howard/Bradley/Poirier

Washington should be the team giving up assets to get rid of Bertans ridiculous contract.

[the_process]

DET gets Scott, Ferguson, and 2021 PHI 1st

PHI gets Wright and Bertans

WSH gets Danny Green, 2021 NYK 2nd, and 2023 ABC 2nd


Wright/Milton/Maxey
Curry/Thybulle/Joe/Tucker*
Simmons/Korkmaz
Harris/Bertans/Reed*
Embiid/Howard/Bradley/Poirier

Washington should be the team giving up assets to get rid of Bertans ridiculous contract.

Even better.

[youngcrev]

If Eric Gordon could be relied on to stay healthy (he can't) and was on a decent contract (he's not) he'd be a great fit here.

[51X3RF4N]

Just peeking at Daryl Morey's trade history.

Outside of a few random situations, he basically makes trades on draft day, on deadline day, and during the off-season.

It's like a pattern. He rarely trades outside of the draft and deadline, and significant moves aren't made during the season if it isn't the deadline.

So that is something to note I think. We shouldn't expect any movement until the deadline.

But his comments about championship or bust make me think that if he doesn't make any moves, then he probably thinks this roster truly has the chance to win it all, as currently constructed.

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