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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1341 » by Slacktard » Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:32 pm

Warfelg wrote:Clippers are offering trash because they don’t really want him, they’re just in because he wants them.


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I'm not sure they don't want him, but they certainly believe they can get him at a cheap price so why bother.

Realistically the Clippers are like the Sixers, except X2. The Sixers only make any noise in the playoffs if they have a healthy Embiid.

The Clippers only make any noise in the playoffs if they have a healthy PG13 *and* Kawhi.

I don't think adding Harden and having one of PG13/Kawhi either not playing or playing hurt/hobbled flips the needle enough.

So for them it's how much you wanna give up for adding to something that's already a crap shoot (both those stars being fully healthy for a playoff run)

then toss in Harden no longer being a top player, but still having a top ego, an impending free agent, etc... I can totally see why the Clippers would do what they're doing.

Giving up superfluous role-players or expiring contracts(or both) to get Harden? Yea. Do that every day for them. Reaching into future 1sts or already drafted younger guys... For what % of chance is that worth it?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1342 » by Arsenal » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:57 pm

The Clippers aren't offering anything good because they're hoping to get Harden for virtually nothing. That might work if the Chicken Little's were running the FO, but not with Morey in charge.

When they get real, there will be a good possibility of a trade.

Right now Clips have no sense of urgency with Harden trying to force Morey's hand in the media. Why not wait and see if it works before ponying up their best offer?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1343 » by FlyingArrow » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:11 pm

Arsenal wrote:But that requires trading for him since LAC or other contenders won't have cap next summer to sign him.


If Harden plays his way down to a minimum contract they will.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1344 » by GutUNC » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:18 pm

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With Ben and Dame... these players still had/have multiple years left on their deal past the current. Those players maintain value. Harden is a guy you get one run with, so you should want maximum time to integrate him. And the less time you have, the less valuable he is.

The Sixers have an equal chance of winning a title with Harden as they do with Covington, Morris, Powell, and a 1st. The problem is Morey's math doesn't agree. That's the underlying problem. Some problems are not math equations to be solved.


Please prove this is the offer on the table. We have no idea what LAC has offered.


The Clippers are offering trash because Morey keeps coming back with the "give me everything" routine.

When you negotiate, it's hard to believe they wouldn't come to a similar middle ground.

Even if they traded him with no 1st involved, aren't they better off just being rid of the headache as opposed to trying to teach him a lesson or making an example for the league?


The odds of him reversing course of him coming back (and making himself subsequently tradeable or opening up his list of teams, while low, is higher then the percentage of the Clippers trash helping the Sixers (0%). It's a different story if Harden's deal is 2-3 years since clearing the decks offers value, but that's not the case here.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1345 » by Eyeamok » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:21 pm

It will be nice next season when we have no player drama in the off season.

I know I know Joel Embiid says "oh hold my beer!"

Just a lot of drama for a team that can't get out of the second round of the playoffs.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1346 » by MoeGreene » Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:41 pm

Who wins a title first?

[poll type=multiple]
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- Flyers
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I say Flyers.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1347 » by gom » Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:24 am

Asking here because I'm more interested in hearing from 76ers fans than the general realgm public.

Does Morris, Batum, & Covington plus 2 FRP (2028 & 2030) and a 2029 swap with Philly (Harden & Forkmaz) get it done? All are expirings. Seems like a better idea than dealing with the fat suit and so forth.
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Post#1348 » by M2J » Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:34 am

gom wrote:Asking here because I'm more interested in hearing from 76ers fans than the general realgm public.

Does Morris, Batum, & Covington plus 2 FRP (2028 & 2030) and a 2029 swap with Philly (Harden & Forkmaz) get it done? All are expirings. Seems like a better idea than dealing with the fat suit and so forth.



I would personally prefer to see Harden implode his own career, but the picks would be intriguing depending on protections. They would need to add a Mann, or younger prospect.... That's a lot of old in there
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1349 » by Arsenal » Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:57 am

gom wrote:Asking here because I'm more interested in hearing from 76ers fans than the general realgm public.

Does Morris, Batum, & Covington plus 2 FRP (2028 & 2030) and a 2029 swap with Philly (Harden & Forkmaz) get it done? All are expirings. Seems like a better idea than dealing with the fat suit and so forth.


Include Tucker instead of Korkmaz and it's a done deal. I'd like to hold out for Mann also, but if we move Tucker instead of Kork I can live without him.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1350 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:25 am

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1351 » by HardenGoat » Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:27 am

The sticking point right now is Mann. He’s a solid wing on both ends. He’s been stuck behind the stars and is a depth piece for them. In Philly he would shine. He’s also on a team friendly contract that’s movable. At some point he’s going to have to be added if LA wants Harden.
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Post#1352 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:33 am

Mann has been the sticking point the entire time. That much is a guarantee.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1353 » by Kobblehead » Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:35 am

gom wrote:Asking here because I'm more interested in hearing from 76ers fans than the general realgm public.

Does Morris, Batum, & Covington plus 2 FRP (2028 & 2030) and a 2029 swap with Philly (Harden & Forkmaz) get it done? All are expirings. Seems like a better idea than dealing with the fat suit and so forth.

Nope. Clippers don't get the luxury of adding a future Hall of Famer and retaining their depth.

Powell, Mann, Martin, Brown, Preston and 2 FRP.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1354 » by rocketsfan100 » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:10 am

I think
Morey is looking for a piece or pieces to flip to say Toronto for siakam
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1355 » by KL78192020 » Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:03 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:I think
Morey is looking for a piece or pieces to flip to say Toronto for siakam


Why would the Raptors do that? He would demand a trade out of Toronto the second he gets there.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1356 » by Negrodamus » Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:08 am

Mann is such a worthless line in the sand. He’s a fine role player.

We should just trade James anywhere that’s willing to take a one year rental. As the league has said, we aren’t beholden to trading him to only one team. Who cares anymore?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1357 » by Negrodamus » Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:14 am

Send Harden to Minnesota to freeze for a year for Conley and Kyle Anderson. Give the TWolves a feeling of magic.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1358 » by 76ciology » Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:47 am

Negrodamus wrote:Mann is such a worthless line in the sand. He’s a fine role player.

We should just trade James anywhere that’s willing to take a one year rental. As the league has said, we aren’t beholden to trading him to only one team. Who cares anymore?


Talk to western rivals of the Clips.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1359 » by Iverson Armband » Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:51 am

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1360 » by rocketsfan100 » Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:54 am

KL78192020 wrote:
rocketsfan100 wrote:I think
Morey is looking for a piece or pieces to flip to say Toronto for siakam


Why would the Raptors do that? He would demand a trade out of Toronto the second he gets there.

Toronto would be a separate deal or a third team

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