Tom Moore 2.0

[tmoore]

lou/jrue/ivey
iguodala/green
thad/kapono/kurz or christmas
brand/speights
dalembert/smith/brezec

that be our team huh?

Could be. Or they could get a 3 with some experience and have Kurz/Christmas battle it out for the 14th spot -- if they carry 14, which is not a given.

[sixers29]

I hope they will sign Carney and then Christmas/Kurz.

[tmoore]

Tom, did you find out if we struck out with other pg options? This Ivey signing is like a slap in the face...

I was told they didn't strike out -- though they didn't want to meet the price of several candidates -- but wanted Ivey's defense and size. I would've preferred more of a traditional, set-up guy.

[ankle420breaker]

Tom, did you find out if we struck out with other pg options? This Ivey signing is like a slap in the face...

I was told they didn't strike out -- though they didn't want to meet the price of several candidates -- but wanted Ivey's defense and size. I would've preferred more of a traditional, set-up guy.

Thanks, Tom.

Didn't want to meet the price? Guys like Taylor, Knight, and Arroyo probably aren't going for any more than Ivey. We wanted him because of his defense and size, despite just drafting a tall, defensive point guard. Makes no sense. We don't need two tall defensive point guards on our bench when there's other needs to fill...

[tmoore]

That's a fair assessment.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Did we strike out or did we just not have the dollars to throw around? In my opinion there really were no enticing free agents out there. I like our point guard situation with Holiday/Williams. It would have been really nice to land CJ Watson because he could have played both guard positions and he is a shooter. Other than Ben Gordon I really can't think of a free agent I really wanted. Of course I know we didn't have the money to throw at him but..... But what if we hadn't signed Brand last year? It doesn't matter.... But what if?

[freshie2]

If they have two longer defensive minded PGs, it provides more options/pairings for Lou at the SG spot, or potentially another SG like McCants (et. al). There isn't much money for the Sixers to spend under their tax limit, so we can't expect huge moves. If guys aren't signed at this point, doesn't it say more about the players than the Sixers?? I still would like to see a young swing/shooter come on board that maybe can mature here and provide a nice spark...Carney/McCants/Green would be fine with me. I am fine with Brezec (spelling) as well...didn't he have a nice game against the Sixers last year???

[vogan9]

hey tom! what about gabe pruitt? any interest?

[tmoore]

hey tom! what about gabe pruitt? any interest?

I believe Ivey is it for the point guards. All that's left is a 2/3, which might be a competition of minimum-salary guys at camp, and perhaps a young guy like Christmas or Kurz, depending if the Sixers carry 13 or 14.

[ryst]

so the sixers cant give CJ watson a decent offer(doesnt have to be something big,just decent)
yet they sign the terrible Ivey?

whats wrong with giving watson a 3 years part of MLE contract? its not gonna be a big contract and it will be a very friendly to trade contract
and this guy will help the sixers , so why not?
you offer watson 2 million a year for 3 years and he will sign asap , right now orlando can only offer him the minimum yet stefanski is in vegas watching players PRACTICE instead of doing his job(a mid level coach can follow the young players,you dont need the GM to do it)
practice? practice? are we talking about practice?
this is what this fool stefasnki is doing?

god have mercy on this team lead by that idiot

[vogan9]

thanks tom. why no interest in pruitt instead of ivey, who opted out on the team already? if they are interested in carney and are only offering 1yr. deals, do they really think he would sign a deal, considering they traded him? also, why not offer cj watson more years, say 2yrs. for $5mil. or 3yrs. for $7mil.? i came up with those figures based on him turning down the 1yr. for $2.3mil. deal. and why does this team overpay to keep players? lou will should be at $4 mil. per year max! lastly, i really want to like stefanski, but everyday i grow more disillusioned. have we become the clippers of the east?

[Skates]

Blame Stefanski all you want, but I am pretty sure that the purse strings have been cut a few levels above his head. I don't think he can get anything longer than a one year deal approved by his bosses unless he sheds salary of near equal or greater value. The two guys who could be shed, WG and Sammy, no one wants until next year when their deals become expirings.

[tmoore]

thanks tom. why no interest in pruitt instead of ivey, who opted out on the team already? if they are interested in carney and are only offering 1yr. deals, do they really think he would sign a deal, considering they traded him? also, why not offer cj watson more years, say 2yrs. for $5mil. or 3yrs. for $7mil.? i came up with those figures based on him turning down the 1yr. for $2.3mil. deal. and why does this team overpay to keep players? lou will should be at $4 mil. per year max! lastly, i really want to like stefanski, but everyday i grow more disillusioned. have we become the clippers of the east?

All 10 guys -- prior to Ivey and Brezec -- are also guaranteed for 2010-11, when the cap and tax are headed down again. Stefanski wants to have some flexibility then by not locking more guys in. What if some of the mid-level free agent "Class of 2010" can't get the deals they want? Could the Sixers get somebody with the MLE? They'll have Dalembert, Green and Kapono off the cap in 2011, but will have to extend Young for a significant raise then, too.

Overpaying to keep players has been going on since Larry Brown (Mutombo, Kukoc), with King (Snow, Dalembert) and Stefanski (Iguodala, Williams) keeping it going.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I dont think Iggy and Williams were overpaid

Especially Williams. His contract is at or around the MLE. He is an MLE caliber baller. I've made the argument before.

Or would one say Korver's a bad contract? Korver IMO, was BK'S best contract.

[tmoore]

Iguodala is making star, No. 1-player money. He is not at that level -- he's a good No. 2.

[corwin]

Iguodala is making star, No. 1-player money. He is not at that level -- he's a good No. 2.

+1. That exact point was made by many on this forum prior to the offer.

[tk76]

Sorry Tom, but I disagree.

He's making second level star money. He does not make a top 35 NBA salary, so I would not call that No. 1 player money. Brand makes #1 player money (#26 top salay in the NBA.)

Iguodala makes 25% less than max guys in his class, and 45% less than the top paid players in the league. He probably is a bit overpaid for what he brings, but he does not have a #1 salary. Overall he earns his current salary, but will be hard pressed to improve to where he keeps up to the last 3 years of his escalating salary. At l;east he still has upside, so I guess we will have to wait and see.

Honestly, it is Brands's 15M/16M/17M/18M (and Sam's horrible deal) that puts this team in a hole. Iguodala has earned his keep thus far.

[sixerswillrule]

Iguodala's contract is for an average of about 13 million per year. A perfect deal would have been 11-12 mil per year. But the difference certainly isn't something that could have any significant negative impact on the franchise.

[tmoore]

Heard Ed Stefanski has been calling some season ticket-holders who say they're not planning to renew in 2009-10, so I asked him about it.

“I do that all the time,” he said. “I did it last year and I’m doing it this year — I give the direction of the team. What’s happening this summer is some season ticket-holders want to talk about the direction the team’s going, which is fine. I understand.”

[Gsraider]

Heard Ed Stefanski has been calling some season ticket-holders who say they're not planning to renew in 2009-10, so I asked him about it.

“I do that all the time,” he said. “I did it last year and I’m doing it this year — I give the direction of the team. What’s happening this summer is some season ticket-holders want to talk about the direction the team’s going, which is fine. I understand.”

Hey Tom, If you talk to him again, please let him know how a lot of fans feel right now about the inaction this summer and unwillingness to spend money or offer deals longer than 1 year. There are some fans that seem OK with it, but the majority seem to wonder why they should spend their hard earned money if the 76ers don't feel inclined to do some of that themselves.