Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0

[SixthStreet]

Morey's ranking of those 4:

1. MDA

[Sixersftw]

Locked in Tatum is infuriating.

[rzzzzz]

So over what length of time did it take our crack front office to trade Bridges, move Jimmy and overpay Harris? That’s some impressive evaluation going on there. (Can’t help but cheer for Butler right now. The man is a real player.)

[Eyeamok]

So over what length of time did it take our crack front office to trade Bridges, move Jimmy and overpay Harris? That’s some impressive evaluation going on there. (Can’t help but cheer for Butler right now. The man is a real player.)

All of these moves can be traced back to their origin. Adam Silver interference in the process. Secondly well done Jimmy Butler. Man played the game of his life. And even with everything going on he still managed to give a shout out to Embiid. But Butler was balling out of his mind last night good for him.

[Negrodamus]

So over what length of time did it take our crack front office to trade Bridges, move Jimmy and overpay Harris? That’s some impressive evaluation going on there. (Can’t help but cheer for Butler right now. The man is a real player.)

The Tobias trade wasn't a bad move at the time: he was a 20ppg scorer on the Clips at 26 years old on unbelievable percentages. He was entering his prime, so it was a bet they wanted to take before being strapped capwise. I didn't like maxing him, but I can understand the thought process.

They didn't move Butler though. I mean, technically they did for Josh Richardson, but we didn't really have a say in the matter. I think it would have required the Sixers to fire Brett and probably trade Ben to satisfy Jimmy. Firing Brett wouldn't have been hard, but having Elton Brand executing a smart trade for Ben at the time would have been a disaster.

Mikal Bridges move is more emotional for Sixers fans because he was a Philly guy from Villanova and we look like the **** for moving him.

I agree that it was a bad collab, but I can't hate on every move.

[Eyeamok]

So over what length of time did it take our crack front office to trade Bridges, move Jimmy and overpay Harris? That’s some impressive evaluation going on there. (Can’t help but cheer for Butler right now. The man is a real player.)

The Tobias trade wasn't a bad move at the time: he was a 20ppg scorer on the Clips at 26 years old on unbelievable percentages. He was entering his prime, so it was a bet they wanted to take before being strapped capwise. I didn't like maxing him, but I can understand the thought process.

They didn't move Butler though. I mean, technically they did for Josh Richardson, but we didn't really have a say in the matter. I think it would have required the Sixers to fire Brett and probably trade Ben to satisfy Jimmy. Firing Brett wouldn't have been hard, but having Elton Brand executing a smart trade for Ben at the time would have been a disaster.

Mikal Bridges move is more emotional for Sixers fans because he was a Philly guy from Villanova and we look like the **** for moving him.

I agree that it was a bad collab, but I can't hate on every move.

Was it really a Ben or Me thing with Jimmy Butler? I think you are spot on with the Bret thing though. Jimmy had a lukewarm relationship with him at best.

[rzzzzz]

and probably trade Ben to satisfy Jimmy. Firing Brett wouldn't have been hard.

Can’t say I had any inside info at the time, but Jimmy was actually defending Ben in the press, saying it was unfair having him on the ball the whole season and then yank it from him in the playoffs. Meanwhile, firing Brett was apparently very hard. Hard enough that Brett could demand that Jimmy could not be on the team if he kept expressing his opinions so freely. Like how poorly the team was evaluating the video and preparing. At that point I was for firing Brett, keeping Ben and making Jimmy player-coach, unless they hired someone who could manage a game, and, motivate Ben to develop his half-court game for the playoffs.

[Eyeamok]

and probably trade Ben to satisfy Jimmy. Firing Brett wouldn't have been hard.

Can’t say I had any inside info at the time, but Jimmy was actually defending Ben in the press, saying it was unfair having him on the ball the whole season and then yank it from him in the playoffs. Meanwhile, firing Brett was apparently very hard. Hard enough that Brett could demand that Jimmy could not be on the team if he kept expressing his opinions so freely. Like how poorly the team was evaluating the video and preparing. At that point I was for firing Brett, keeping Ben and making Jimmy player-coach, unless they hired someone who could manage a game, and, motivate Ben to develop his half-court game for the playoffs.

No inside information either. But Jimmy had just come from Minnesota where he basically tried to burn the organization down for a coach he liked. So here he was talking about Brett, not even a full season under his belt, that situation was only going to get worse. Would he have done the same thing in Philly as he did in Minnesota? And if so the 76ers might only have been able to get pennies on the dollar for their investment. So they went with Harris ? Was that part of the thinking process.

[Negrodamus]

So over what length of time did it take our crack front office to trade Bridges, move Jimmy and overpay Harris? That’s some impressive evaluation going on there. (Can’t help but cheer for Butler right now. The man is a real player.)

The Tobias trade wasn't a bad move at the time: he was a 20ppg scorer on the Clips at 26 years old on unbelievable percentages. He was entering his prime, so it was a bet they wanted to take before being strapped capwise. I didn't like maxing him, but I can understand the thought process.

They didn't move Butler though. I mean, technically they did for Josh Richardson, but we didn't really have a say in the matter. I think it would have required the Sixers to fire Brett and probably trade Ben to satisfy Jimmy. Firing Brett wouldn't have been hard, but having Elton Brand executing a smart trade for Ben at the time would have been a disaster.

Mikal Bridges move is more emotional for Sixers fans because he was a Philly guy from Villanova and we look like the **** for moving him.

I agree that it was a bad collab, but I can't hate on every move.

Was it really a Ben or Me thing with Jimmy Butler? I think you are spot on with the Bret thing though. Jimmy had a lukewarm relationship with him at best.

I don't think he was on the nose about it being about Ben, because players generally look out for players, but there were definitely rumors at the time:

Jimmy Butler's decision to leave the Philadelphia 76ers as a free agent in the summer of 2019 reportedly stemmed in part from his assessment of Ben Simmons' mentality during their time together as teammates.

Per The Athletic's Zach Harper, Butler "didn't view [Simmons] on par with someone like himself or [Joel] Embiid when it came to mental makeup."

[rzzzzz]

I don't think he was on the nose about it being about Ben, because players generally look out for players, but there were definitely rumors at the time:

But for Jimmy to go to the press supporting Ben was huge. Plus, it was a further dig at Brett, who he didn’t respect. The story I trust is the one from his caretaker at the place he was renting in Ambler. “I’ll be gone a while, but I’ll probably be back.”, he told him. Plus, Jimmy joking about the Sixers preferring Harris to him. Plus Embiid being obviously furious. After Ben went down in the bubble (after actually showing some signs of effective front line half-court play, Embiid made little effort to save Brett’s job, during his single healthy playoff appearance.

No, it was definitely Jimmy vs Brett and Harris chose wrong.

[GoSixersBro]

Interesting thread from last year by Yaron Weitzman, who wrote a book on the Process. I recommend to read all 1-10 tweets but this one was in reference to Jimmy and Brown:

Read on Twitter

[Negrodamus]

Arguably the amount of time the Sixers spent worrying about the Ben's feelings is the most significant period in this franchise's history. Completely wasted Embiid's earlier years.

[mjkvol]

So over what length of time did it take our crack front office to trade Bridges, move Jimmy and overpay Harris? That’s some impressive evaluation going on there. (Can’t help but cheer for Butler right now. The man is a real player.)

The Tobias trade wasn't a bad move at the time: he was a 20ppg scorer on the Clips at 26 years old on unbelievable percentages. He was entering his prime, so it was a bet they wanted to take before being strapped capwise. I didn't like maxing him, but I can understand the thought process.

They didn't move Butler though. I mean, technically they did for Josh Richardson, but we didn't really have a say in the matter. I think it would have required the Sixers to fire Brett and probably trade Ben to satisfy Jimmy. Firing Brett wouldn't have been hard, but having Elton Brand executing a smart trade for Ben at the time would have been a disaster.

Mikal Bridges move is more emotional for Sixers fans because he was a Philly guy from Villanova and we look like the **** for moving him.

I agree that it was a bad collab, but I can't hate on every move.

Disagree on the Bridges trade. At least from my perspective, I wanted the Sixers to draft him primarily because he was the blueprint of what this team desperately needed at the time (and still does). I loved him as a college player at 'Nova, and him being a homegrown player was great, but it was giving away the perfect fit that fell in our laps that I found infuriating about that trade.

[rzzzzz]

Interesting thread from last year by Yaron Weitzman, who wrote a book on the Process. I recommend to read all 1-10 tweets but this one was in reference to Jimmy and Brown:

Read on Twitter

While Keith wrote “According to multiple sources, Brown had a hand in breaking that team up because he didn’t want to deal with Jimmy Butler, who was the team’s closer and who’s never afraid to speak his mind.”

https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-brett-brown-game-4-celtics-last-game-nba-playoffs-20200822.html?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

Pick your source, I guess.

[Murray_17]

While Keith wrote “According to multiple sources, Brown had a hand in breaking that team up because he didn’t want to deal with Jimmy Butler, who was the team’s closer and who’s never afraid to speak his mind.”

Keith went on the Athletic NBA show at the beginning of the season and said he heard several complaints about Doc and that his managing was erratic, that the younger and role players didn't understand what was expected of them and that they had no communication with him or his staff. All of this when the calls for firing Doc were mounting

Then, at the mid-season he wrote an article about how Doc was underrated because of his management of the team.

Keith is one of the worst reporters in the entire league and mostly writes what his specific sources want him to write.

Also, Butler himself said in the JJ podcast that his issue was he heard one of the higher up in management talks about the need to "control him".

[Bum Adebayo]

Sixers felt the need to control Butler because he was an alpha male lead, as such he could dominate and hurt feelings of a beta like Simmons, Sixers didn't want that.

[Eyeamok]

Sixers felt the need to control Butler because he was an alpha male lead, as such he could dominate and hurt feelings of a beta like Simmons, Sixers didn't want that.

Usually I find your posts to be all over the place. But this one is probably spot on. Good job.

[Eyeamok]

Simply loved what a healthy Denver team did to the sun's last night. They are basically treated as an afterthought by the media. But Murray, Gordon and Porter played extremely well. Not taking anything away from joker and the rest of the team. Gordon reminds me of Iggy. He got out of being looked at as one of the main cogs in Orlando. Went to a team where he had less pressure on him and now he has found his groove. Or it could just be the dreads he has grown.

[blargh]

Simply loved what a healthy Denver team did to the sun's last night. They are basically treated as an afterthought by the media. But Murray, Gordon and Porter played extremely well. Not taking anything away from joker and the rest of the team. Gordon reminds me of Iggy. He got out of being looked at as one of the main cogs in Orlando. Went to a team where he had less pressure on him and now he has found his groove. Or it could just be the dreads he has grown.

I would still be very, very happy if somehow the Sixers ended up in the Finals against the Nuggets.

[mjkvol]

Simply loved what a healthy Denver team did to the sun's last night. They are basically treated as an afterthought by the media. But Murray, Gordon and Porter played extremely well. Not taking anything away from joker and the rest of the team. Gordon reminds me of Iggy. He got out of being looked at as one of the main cogs in Orlando. Went to a team where he had less pressure on him and now he has found his groove. Or it could just be the dreads he has grown.

Money it's the dreads.