Would anyone here consider Al Jefferson for Iggy? You get a low post presence with a simular contract with one year less on it.celtics_suck wrote:The Guilty Party wrote:I wouldn't do that but that's mostly due to me not really being a Kevin Martin fan. He's a nice player but I don't think he can be the difference maker on both ends of the floor the way Iguodala can. The #14 pick isn't all that enticing to me either since you're most likely just getting a role player at that point.
Damn It you are a tough GMBut I do agree that Martin is certainly not the overall talent that Iggy is. But he is a better, and more mindset of a # 1 scorer. But he is very fragile. I just thought that Houston, who already has a kinda leading scorer type in Brooks would mean all the pressure wouldn't be on Iggy like it was here. And that way Martin and Holiday could play the back court. And Turner the SF with Ariza spelli ng him off the bench. Then at 14 maybe we could roll the dice with a C like Whiteside. Who can be our next thin, Athletic Dalembert Center after Dalembert's deal ends after this season.
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MplsFonz wrote:Would anyone here consider Al Jefferson for Iggy? You get a low post presence with a simular contract with one year less on it.celtics_suck wrote:The Guilty Party wrote:I wouldn't do that but that's mostly due to me not really being a Kevin Martin fan. He's a nice player but I don't think he can be the difference maker on both ends of the floor the way Iguodala can. The #14 pick isn't all that enticing to me either since you're most likely just getting a role player at that point.
Damn It you are a tough GMBut I do agree that Martin is certainly not the overall talent that Iggy is. But he is a better, and more mindset of a # 1 scorer. But he is very fragile. I just thought that Houston, who already has a kinda leading scorer type in Brooks would mean all the pressure wouldn't be on Iggy like it was here. And that way Martin and Holiday could play the back court. And Turner the SF with Ariza spelli ng him off the bench. Then at 14 maybe we could roll the dice with a C like Whiteside. Who can be our next thin, Athletic Dalembert Center after Dalembert's deal ends after this season.
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Not really cause Jefferson has shown signs of having a bad knee. And he is a defensive liability. And, where would he play ? He can't play Center. And he doesn't have a game outside of 5 ft from the paint, and he clashes with Brand. No, if Turner is our guy at 2, then Iggy can be dealt for another high pick. But I would rather deal him for a established SG. Then Turner would not be needed, and we could trade down a bit. Who knows, if there is a bidding war, maybe New Jersey gives us Brook Lopez and 3 just to move up 1 spot

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No way the net give up lopez, he is the 2nd best center in the east behind howard and if the sixers draft turner he is your 2 not 3. He loses most of his advantages. He can play the 3 at times yes but his primary positio is the 2, also turner is the must have NO TRADING DOWN! We can't get fansy here. The Sixers should take the Best player avaliable at 2 and that's Turner from there if you wanna trade someone or a package for another 1st rounder I am all for it but let's not mess this one up like the Sixers have every other time they have had the number 2 pick (kieth van horn and shawn Bradley). K.I.s.s. Stands for keep it simple stupid and that's one of the first things you learn when you play any sport at a young age.
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I'd probably take the Minnesota pick for Iguodala, but I agree on passing over Al Jeff
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If we get acquire Cousins for Iggy. I would do a deal of Dalembert, Green and Jason Smith for Prince , Maxiell and 36th pick to acquire Alabi, Jordan , or Varnado.
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^I wouldn't. I'd just do the Dre deal and be done. No need to take on Maxiell's bad contract.
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Rockets incoming: Jeff Foster, Thad Young
Sixers incoming: Jared Jeffries, 10th pick
Pacers incoming: Lou Williams, 14th pick
The Rockets pick up a young forward that can replace what Landry was providing for them, as well as get a veteran defensive center.
The Sixers pick up an early draft pick to go after a young center (Aldrich?) and get a defensively versatile forward off the bench.
The Pacers pick up a young guard (22) who is coming off his best season at the cost of moving back a few spots in the draft.
PG Jrue Holiday / Jodie Meeks (Turner would take over PG duties)
SG Evan Turner / Willie Green
SF Andre Iguodala / Jason Kapono / Jared Jeffries
PF Elton Brand / Mareese Speights
C Sam Dalembert / #10th pick / Jason Smith
Sixers incoming: Jared Jeffries, 10th pick
Pacers incoming: Lou Williams, 14th pick
The Rockets pick up a young forward that can replace what Landry was providing for them, as well as get a veteran defensive center.
The Sixers pick up an early draft pick to go after a young center (Aldrich?) and get a defensively versatile forward off the bench.
The Pacers pick up a young guard (22) who is coming off his best season at the cost of moving back a few spots in the draft.
PG Jrue Holiday / Jodie Meeks (Turner would take over PG duties)
SG Evan Turner / Willie Green
SF Andre Iguodala / Jason Kapono / Jared Jeffries
PF Elton Brand / Mareese Speights
C Sam Dalembert / #10th pick / Jason Smith
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I'm the biggest Twolves fan ever and all the blogs for the Twolves include potential trades with you Sixers for that second pick. Well I guess that all I really want is an honest Sixers fan's opinion on trading down to 4.
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
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Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
or
Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
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Dalembert, Thad, Lou Will and Speights and future 1st 2011 for team with rights to Cousins
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RB10 wrote:I'm the biggest Twolves fan ever and all the blogs for the Twolves include potential trades with you Sixers for that second pick. Well I guess that all I really want is an honest Sixers fan's opinion on trading down to 4.
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
or
Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
The Wolves would never do Brand/#2 for Jefferson/#4. As a sixers GM I would do this deal in a minute.
I know that there's a rumor about Dally/#2 for Jefferson/#4 but it's not enough for Philly.
Something around Dally/#2/Green for Jefferson/#4/#16...
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Dan Verze wrote:RB10 wrote:I'm the biggest Twolves fan ever and all the blogs for the Twolves include potential trades with you Sixers for that second pick. Well I guess that all I really want is an honest Sixers fan's opinion on trading down to 4.
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
or
Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
The Wolves would never do Brand/#2 for Jefferson/#4. As a sixers GM I would do this deal in a minute.
I know that there's a rumor about Dally/#2 for Jefferson/#4 but it's not enough for Philly.
Something around Dally/#2/Green for Jefferson/#4/#16...
Really ? Why would Stefanski do Brand and 2 for Jefferson and 4 in a minute ? Is Jefferson's 4 more points a game and way worse defense worth falling back in the draft, and giving up maybe the drafts one and only true " Franchise " player in Turner worth it. ? I mean given Jefferson's lack of toughness, his poor I don't give a Damn about defense approach, and the fact that he makes only 8 million less over the next 3 years as Brand will, does that make giving up maybe this drafts best player in Turner ? Yeah, I kinda think Stefanski disagrees with you.
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celtics_suck wrote:Dan Verze wrote:RB10 wrote:I'm the biggest Twolves fan ever and all the blogs for the Twolves include potential trades with you Sixers for that second pick. Well I guess that all I really want is an honest Sixers fan's opinion on trading down to 4.
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
or
Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
The Wolves would never do Brand/#2 for Jefferson/#4. As a sixers GM I would do this deal in a minute.
I know that there's a rumor about Dally/#2 for Jefferson/#4 but it's not enough for Philly.
Something around Dally/#2/Green for Jefferson/#4/#16...
Really ? Why would Stefanski do Brand and 2 for Jefferson and 4 in a minute ? Is Jefferson's 4 more points a game and way worse defense worth falling back in the draft, and giving up maybe the drafts one and only true " Franchise " player in Turner worth it. ? I mean given Jefferson's lack of toughness, his poor I don't give a Damn about defense approach, and the fact that he makes only 8 million less over the next 3 years as Brand will, does that make giving up maybe this drafts best player in Turner ? Yeah, I kinda think Stefanski disagrees with you.
1. you're undervaluing Jefferson.
2. if Stefanski would'nt like Jefferson, he could trade him easily for an expiring + pick like Prince + #7. You get an exp in 11 for Brand and Cousins + maybe another pick if you trade Jefferson and you wouldn't do that?
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NO I would not. And I am not undervaluing Jefferson. He is a soft defending Stat getter on a Horrid team. And, you guys lose NOTHING in this trade. Cause you have Love already there. And you get maybe this drafts BEST player in Turner. He definitely is the most versatile. He is what Minny NEEDS! But Minny offers nothing. Like I said, offer us your Unconditional 1st rounders in 2011-13-15, and Rubio, and MAYBE we would consider it. Otherwise Jefferson and 4 is not going to get you squat!
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RB10 wrote:I'm the biggest Twolves fan ever and all the blogs for the Twolves include potential trades with you Sixers for that second pick. Well I guess that all I really want is an honest Sixers fan's opinion on trading down to 4.
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
or
Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
I think we'd have to do the first deal (can't imagine the T'Wolves would actually offer that). Then I'd probably swing Jefferson to the Pistons for the 7th pick and Prince.
PG Holiday / Williams
SG Iguodala / Green
SF Prince / Young
PF Aminu / Speights
C Cousins / Dalembert
The 2nd deal? No way
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youngcrev wrote:RB10 wrote:I'm the biggest Twolves fan ever and all the blogs for the Twolves include potential trades with you Sixers for that second pick. Well I guess that all I really want is an honest Sixers fan's opinion on trading down to 4.
Al Jefferson + 4
Elton Brand + 2
or
Al Jefferson + 4
Samuel Dalembert + 2
What do you Sixers fans think about these deals? Do any of you like the Al Jefferson and DeMarcus Cousins or Wes Johnson combo more than the potential Evan Turner and Iguodala clashing?
Please comment with opinions
I think we'd have to do the first deal (can't imagine the T'Wolves would actually offer that). Then I'd probably swing Jefferson to the Pistons for the 7th pick and Prince.
PG Holiday / Williams
SG Iguodala / Green
SF Prince / Young
PF Aminu / Speights
C Cousins / Dalembert
The 2nd deal? No way
Philly gives: 2nd + Brand
Philly gets: 4th + 7th + 16th + Prince
Minn gives: 4th + 16th + Jefferson
Minn gets: 2nd + Brand
Det gives: Prince + 7th
Det gets: Jefferson
? I mean, that seems like a pretty good trade, value wise. You get rid of Brand's contract, pick up 3 draft picks and an EC in Prince... but we would REALLY have to trade Young/Kapono/Iggy/Prince.
But I'd rather have Turner.
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Allow me to end this problem at the C position.
76ers Trades:
Thaddeus Young
Spencer Hawes
Jason Kapono
Warriors Trades:
Andris Biedrins
Why for the Warriors:
Right now at the draft express, they are projected to acquire DeMarcus Cousins. With that said, it makes Biedrins VERY expendable. The trade gives them three players who suits their team VERY well. Thad and Kapono are above average players at the offensive end. And Spencer Hawes seems to fit their style of play with his skills and BBall IQ at the offensive end.
Warriors:
Stephen Curry/CJ Watson
Monta Ellis/Jason Kapono
Corey Maggette/Thaddeus Young
Anthony Randolph/Chris Hunter
DeMarcus Cousins/Spencer Hawes
Why for the 76ers:
They got a player who is capable to anchor the team's rebounding and interior defense in Biedrins.
76ers:
Jrue Holiday/Lou Williams
Evan Turner/Meeks/Carney?
Andre Iguodala/Andres Nocioni
Elton Brand/Marreese Speights
Andris Biedrins/FA? Jason Smith?
76ers Trades:
Thaddeus Young
Spencer Hawes
Jason Kapono
Warriors Trades:
Andris Biedrins
Why for the Warriors:
Right now at the draft express, they are projected to acquire DeMarcus Cousins. With that said, it makes Biedrins VERY expendable. The trade gives them three players who suits their team VERY well. Thad and Kapono are above average players at the offensive end. And Spencer Hawes seems to fit their style of play with his skills and BBall IQ at the offensive end.
Warriors:
Stephen Curry/CJ Watson
Monta Ellis/Jason Kapono
Corey Maggette/Thaddeus Young
Anthony Randolph/Chris Hunter
DeMarcus Cousins/Spencer Hawes
Why for the 76ers:
They got a player who is capable to anchor the team's rebounding and interior defense in Biedrins.
76ers:
Jrue Holiday/Lou Williams
Evan Turner/Meeks/Carney?
Andre Iguodala/Andres Nocioni
Elton Brand/Marreese Speights
Andris Biedrins/FA? Jason Smith?
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Too much for Biedrins after the season he had. The most I'd do is Kapono + Green for him until he can come back healthy and back to form. Now that would be a scary team...
Jrue / Lou
Turner / Meeks
Iguodala / Thad / Nocioni
Brand / Speights / Nociono
Biedrins / Hawes / Smith
Jrue / Lou
Turner / Meeks
Iguodala / Thad / Nocioni
Brand / Speights / Nociono
Biedrins / Hawes / Smith
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Sixers are giving up too much
Biedrins isn't much of an upgrade over Dalembert, if at all. Only way we consider that deal is if we're getting the Warriors pick in return. It's still probably not worth making the deal though.
Biedrins isn't much of an upgrade over Dalembert, if at all. Only way we consider that deal is if we're getting the Warriors pick in return. It's still probably not worth making the deal though.
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Kapono + Louis WIlliams
for Kirk Hinrich (for the millionth time) + Future 2nd?
Reason for us: We get rid of Kapono who we no longer need & shave Williams deal by one year. Hinrich & Holiday would also be a very solid defensive PG rotation
Reason for Chicago: They get a PG to backup Rose & the 3 pt shooter they need in Kapono
Our Lineup
Holiday/Hinrich
Turner/Green/Meeks
Iguodala/Noc
Brand/Young/Smith
Hawes/Speights
for Kirk Hinrich (for the millionth time) + Future 2nd?
Reason for us: We get rid of Kapono who we no longer need & shave Williams deal by one year. Hinrich & Holiday would also be a very solid defensive PG rotation
Reason for Chicago: They get a PG to backup Rose & the 3 pt shooter they need in Kapono
Our Lineup
Holiday/Hinrich
Turner/Green/Meeks
Iguodala/Noc
Brand/Young/Smith
Hawes/Speights
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tHE hinrich boat has sailed. only reason we remotely wanted him was his 3pt... now holiday can shoot, and plays good D. No need to pay more for Hinrich.
Now if Chi was throwing in some young assets maybe... but as is, last thing we need is MORE money owe'd next yr.
Now if Chi was throwing in some young assets maybe... but as is, last thing we need is MORE money owe'd next yr.