Sixers sign Sergio Rodriguez for 1 year, 8 million

[sixerswillrule]

If he plays minimum 25 minutes I will not be much surprised seeing him average a 10 ppp & 10app on a decent efficiency.

This is nuts.

Yeah, Sergio only averaged 11 and 6 in 24 mpg in International play. Perhaps he meant per 100 possessions? Not sure how stats are presented elsewhere, but on nbawowy for instance ppp stands for points per possession which extrapolates to per 100 possessions, 10 and 10 makes more sense in that context.

To his point, Ridnour has been awful for a while. The only way that comparison makes sense is if you're comparing 30 year old Ridnour to 30 year old Rodriguez as his best cast scenario for this season, he wasn't so bad in that particular season.

Well he did talk about Ridnour in the past tense, saying he wasn't on the level of current Sergio.

[CoreyGallagher]

Well he did talk about Ridnour in the past tense, saying he wasn't on the level of current Sergio.

I don't see that.

[jptremblay]

If he plays minimum 25 minutes I will not be much surprised seeing him average a 10 ppp & 10app on a decent efficiency.

This is nuts.

Yeah, Sergio only averaged 11 and 6 in 24 mpg in International play. Perhaps he meant per 100 possessions? Not sure how stats are presented elsewhere, but on nbawowy for instance ppp stands for points per possession which extrapolates to per 100 possessions, 10 and 10 makes more sense in that context.

To his point, Ridnour has been awful for a while. The only way that comparison makes sense is if you're comparing 30 year old Ridnour to 30 year old Rodriguez as his best cast scenario for this season, he wasn't so bad in that particular season.

No, I mean 10 & 10 per game, but now that i'm rethinking about it I think that to average 10 ppp & 10app per 36 is much more possible, and i'm sure that if they give him confidence ( not like Portland) he will flourish with your bigs, especially if Embiid is healthy.
You can't compare International ball because it's so different, Spain moves the ball a lot and he was used more in a different way, shooting more threes to space the floor and playing more off the ball, but still being the primarily ball handler.

[CoreyGallagher]

No, I mean 10 & 10 per game, but now that i'm rethinking about it I think that to average 10 ppp & 10app per 36 is much more possible, and i'm sure that if they give him confidence ( not like Portland) he will flourish with your bigs, especially if Embiid is healthy.

Yeah, per 36 or 100 possessions makes more sense and is actually plausible imo.

There's only ever been one player (John Lucas in 83-84) to average at least 10 and 10 in twenty some odd minutes (28.7 mpg), everyone else has played over 31 mpg to get at least that.

[jptremblay]

Luke Ridnour is sort of the best case scenario I have for him. Bad defender. Not much of a scorer. Terrific passer and pure PG.

Do ever have seen Sergio play in last years? He is a great shooter, decent shot creator...runs pretty well the fastbreak...and a pure PG...with all of these skills...what he have in common with Ridnour?
He was a decent combo guard with great shooting, not much more.
Sergio only issue is his defense, but he isn't that bad as someone think.
In a scale of 1-10, where 1 is Calderón and the 10 Chris Paul, he is probably below the middle , on the 3.
So he is a bad defender but can stand at least in front of his pairing. Also, uses to make a ton of steals.
If he plays minimum 25 minutes I will not be much surprised seeing him average a 10 ppp & 10app on a decent efficiency.

Ridnour was an above average backup and a below average starter. Based on what you're saying, Sergio will be much better? So an average starter, around the level of Holiday, Teague, etc. I really doubt that.

Holiday and Teague aren't average, they are good PGs...and average starter guard right now is someone like Rondo, Collison, Deron Williams ...

But to be an average starter or an above back up player is too relative...is Carter-Williams average? Is Calderón average right now? Were Livingston or Corey Joseph worse than they because they weren't starting??
I think that the level of Sergio if he gets his minutes and an important role, is something like a Darren Collison level with worse defense but with best playmaging to the team...
For me, his level stands between beeing an starter in a bad/young team or and being a solid 6th man for a Playoff team, or a solid back up for a contender like Patty Mills or last year Barbosa.

[sixerswillrule]

Well he did talk about Ridnour in the past tense, saying he wasn't on the level of current Sergio.

I don't see that.

Do ever have seen Sergio play in last years? He is a great shooter, decent shot creator...runs pretty well the fastbreak...and a pure PG...with all of these skills...what he have in common with Ridnour?
He was a decent combo guard with great shooting, not much more.

[sixerswillrule]

Ridnour was an above average backup and a below average starter. Based on what you're saying, Sergio will be much better? So an average starter, around the level of Holiday, Teague, etc. I really doubt that.

Holiday and Teague aren't average, they are good PGs...and average starter guard right now is someone like Rondo, Collison, Deron Williams ...

Top 10 PGs in 2016 = Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Lowry, Thomas, Lillard, Walker, Irving, Wall, Jackson

PGs in the 11-20 range = average starting PGs

Holiday and Teague = average starting PGs

But to be an average starter or an above back up player is too relative...is Carter-Williams average? Is Calderón average right now? Were Livingston or Corey Joseph worse than they because they weren't starting??
I think that the level of Sergio if he gets his minutes and an important role, is something like a Darren Collison level with worse defense but with best playmaging to the team...
For me, his level stands between beeing an starter in a bad/young team or and being a solid 6th man for a Playoff team, or a solid back up for a contender like Patty Mills or last year Barbosa.

It's pretty straightforward...And you just described an above average backup or below average starter. That's what Ridnour was.

[CoreyGallagher]

Well he did talk about Ridnour in the past tense, saying he wasn't on the level of current Sergio.

I don't see that.

Do ever have seen Sergio play in last years? He is a great shooter, decent shot creator...runs pretty well the fastbreak...and a pure PG...with all of these skills...what he have in common with Ridnour?
He was a decent combo guard with great shooting, not much more.

Oh, well, heck. I was sifting through spike's posts - that's who I thought you were referring to.

[guille_4]

If he plays minimum 25 minutes I will not be much surprised seeing him average a 10 ppp & 10app on a decent efficiency.

This is nuts.

Yeah, Sergio only averaged 11 and 6 in 24 mpg in International play. Perhaps he meant per 100 possessions? Not sure how stats are presented elsewhere, but on nbawowy for instance ppp stands for points per possession which extrapolates to per 100 possessions, 10 and 10 makes more sense in that context.

To his point, Ridnour has been awful for a while. The only way that comparison makes sense is if you're comparing 30 year old Ridnour to 30 year old Rodriguez as his best cast scenario for this season, he wasn't so bad in that particular season.

6 assists in 24 mpg in Europe is amazing. Pace is slower, there's more ball circulation and assists are not given as easily.

For comparison, Ricky Rubio averaged (per 36) 6.7 assists in Europe and averages 9.5 in the NBA.

If Sergio plays over 20 mpg and is allowed to play his game, he'll surely be in the top 8 in assists per 36 / pero 100 possessions.

[tk76]

I'm looking forward to El Chacho on offense. But on defense he very well might make Ish look like Gary Payton.

[CoreyGallagher]

6 assists in 24 mpg in Europe is amazing. Pace is slower, there's more ball circulation and assists are not given as easily.

For comparison, Ricky Rubio averaged (per 36) 6.7 assists in Europe and averages 9.5 in the NBA.

If Sergio plays over 20 mpg and is allowed to play his game, he'll surely be in the top 8 in assists per 36 / pero 100 possessions.

Okay, even so, the original prediction was averaging 10 assists in 25 mpg, that would be eqivilant to about 14.4 assists per 36. Was too high.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Finals MVP

[Rastas]

Predict 15 to 18mins per game , primarily when Ben is sitting.

[Pattycakes]

As someone who watched Surge's first few seasons in the league, I can tell you a couple things. Nate Mcmillan was the worst possible fit to coach him... he was a lot like Sebastian Telfair in that way. Any flaws in his game were likely blown out of proportion early on, leading to a very stunted development as an NBA player. With that said, I haven't watched him a lot post- Blazers. I am expecting a 12/7 type season for you guys based on the fact I assume he's improved these last years. Expect a great handle, some passes that will remind you of Nash/JWill, and a tremendously supportive teammate. Great pickup in what has already been a historical offseason for you, I will be watching lots of 76er basketball as will many this season.

[76ersfan]

As someone who watched Surge's first few seasons in the league, I can tell you a couple things. Nate Mcmillan was the worst possible fit to coach him... he was a lot like Sebastian Telfair in that way. Any flaws in his game were likely blown out of proportion early on, leading to a very stunted development as an NBA player. With that said, I haven't watched him a lot post- Blazers. I am expecting a 12/7 type season for you guys based on the fact I assume he's improved these last years. Expect a great handle, some passes that will remind you of Nash/JWill, and a tremendously supportive teammate. Great pickup in what has already been a historical offseason for you, I will be watching lots of 76er basketball as will many this season.

Thanks for your sixers support. Welcome aboard!

[jinxed]

He's been the best player in camp so far apparently.

[Unbreakable99]

He's been the best player in camp so far apparently.

That's not a good sign.

[BNelley24]

Unbreakable....not really....the guy is a Vet, has been playing big time overseas and in the Olympics. We've read over and over about how well he's developed over the last 5 years. I just posted this in another thread but I hope he's our starting PG to start the year oat some point this season. Not only is he a magician with the ball, he's got a quick release & can hit the 3.

[76ciology]

Unbreakable....not really....the guy is a Vet, has been playing big time overseas and in the Olympics. We've read over and over about how well he's developed over the last 5 years. I just posted this in another thread but I hope he's our starting PG to start the year oat some point this season. Not only is he a magician with the ball, he's got a quick release & can hit the 3.

Yup, he's perfect for the PnR. I think the issue lies more with his defense, but we have solid wing defenders who have length and athleticism or mobility to rotate and Noel/Embiid at the C position.

[Martin]

He's been the best player in camp so far apparently.

That's not a good sign.

He's the only guy who played during the olympics so he's in game shape the most. Maybe whoever said he's the best player in the camp finally saw a good PG on the floor instead of the crap we've had the last few seasons?

Wouldn't really worry about Sergio being the best player at this stage, young ones need to get into game shape and Im sure Sergio's gonna be a great leadership presence on this team.