Fantasy Trade Thread

[the_process]

I think there are a lot of incorrect premises here. You're not looking to salvage Okafor's value, you're looking to get any piece you can use for the roster going forward. You probably aren't getting a first for Jah, so you're trying to get (a preferably undervalued) player on his rookie deal. And while letting him walk is better than taking a bad deal, if that bad contract gets you a 1st; say Okafor for Asik and NOP's 1st top 5 protected... do you pass on that?

[Chris76]

I think there are a lot of incorrect premises here. You're not looking to salvage Okafor's value, you're looking to get any piece you can use for the roster going forward. You probably aren't getting a first for Jah, so you're trying to get (a preferably undervalued) player on his rookie deal. And while letting him walk is better than taking a bad deal, if that bad contract gets you a 1st; say Okafor for Asik and NOP's 1st top 5 protected... do you pass on that?

NOP's need a SF.

Justin Anderson and Stauskus for their 2018 1st top 5 protected.

Okafor is going to be the Sixers backup center. If he does poorly than he walks. It makes no sense to cut him now.
His defense and rebounding should be better. Coaching and practice should help him.

[the_process]

I think there are a lot of incorrect premises here. You're not looking to salvage Okafor's value, you're looking to get any piece you can use for the roster going forward. You probably aren't getting a first for Jah, so you're trying to get (a preferably undervalued) player on his rookie deal. And while letting him walk is better than taking a bad deal, if that bad contract gets you a 1st; say Okafor for Asik and NOP's 1st top 5 protected... do you pass on that?

NOP's need a SF.

Justin Anderson and Stauskus for their 2018 1st top 5 protected.

Okafor is going to be the Sixers backup center. If he does poorly than he walks. It makes no sense to cut him now.
His defense and rebounding should be better. Coaching and practice should help him.

You couldn't get the Pelicans pick top 30 protected for those two.

[TTP]

I think there are a lot of incorrect premises here. You're not looking to salvage Okafor's value, you're looking to get any piece you can use for the roster going forward. You probably aren't getting a first for Jah, so you're trying to get (a preferably undervalued) player on his rookie deal. And while letting him walk is better than taking a bad deal, if that bad contract gets you a 1st; say Okafor for Asik and NOP's 1st top 5 protected... do you pass on that?

NOP's need a SF.

Justin Anderson and Stauskus for their 2018 1st top 5 protected.

Okafor is going to be the Sixers backup center. If he does poorly than he walks. It makes no sense to cut him now.
His defense and rebounding should be better. Coaching and practice should help him.

You're living in a fantasy world.

[Chris76]

I think there are a lot of incorrect premises here. You're not looking to salvage Okafor's value, you're looking to get any piece you can use for the roster going forward. You probably aren't getting a first for Jah, so you're trying to get (a preferably undervalued) player on his rookie deal. And while letting him walk is better than taking a bad deal, if that bad contract gets you a 1st; say Okafor for Asik and NOP's 1st top 5 protected... do you pass on that?

NOP's need a SF.

Justin Anderson and Stauskus for their 2018 1st top 5 protected.

Okafor is going to be the Sixers backup center. If he does poorly than he walks. It makes no sense to cut him now.
His defense and rebounding should be better. Coaching and practice should help him.

You're living in a fantasy world.

Okafor could be a good player in the right situation. If he adapts and becomes aggressive at defense and rebounding, he could be a good asset.

[TTP]

NOP's need a SF.

Justin Anderson and Stauskus for their 2018 1st top 5 protected.

Okafor is going to be the Sixers backup center. If he does poorly than he walks. It makes no sense to cut him now.
His defense and rebounding should be better. Coaching and practice should help him.

You're living in a fantasy world.

Okafor could be a good player in the right situation. If he adapts and becomes aggressive at defense and rebounding, he could be a good asset.

And what's your defense for the Justin Anderson/Stauskas for NO 1st proposal?

[BullyKing]

You're living in a fantasy world.

Okafor could be a good player in the right situation. If he adapts and becomes aggressive at defense and rebounding, he could be a good asset.

And what's your defense for the Justin Anderson/Stauskas for NO 1st proposal?

Both are very underrated and suffered from playing on a losing team. Now that the team is trying to win, you'll see that Justin Anderson is a cross of Kawhi's defense and Klay's offense and Stauskas is basically Jason Kidd with a jump shot.

[Chris76]

Okafor could be a good player in the right situation. If he adapts and becomes aggressive at defense and rebounding, he could be a good asset.

And what's your defense for the Justin Anderson/Stauskas for NO 1st proposal?

Both are very underrated and suffered from playing on a losing team. Now that the team is trying to win, you'll see that Justin Anderson is a cross of Kawhi's defense and Klay's offense and Stauskas is basically Jason Kidd with a jump shot.

I disagree, he's probably more like Curry's offense!

[Ericb5]

Stauskas is an NBA player and will have a long career, but he has no trade value beyond a second rounder perhaps. Justin Anderson probably is in the same boat.


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[spikeslovechild]

Both are replaceable. I sort of pegged Anderson value as a 2nd rounder when we got him and he was worth taking a flier on.

Now I've seen enough of him. Stauskas is a bench guy kind of disappointed how his career has played out thought he would be more.

[smittybanton]

Reporter Will Guillory of The Times-Picayune believes that Darius Miller may start at small forward for the Pelicans this season.
With Solomon Hill sidelined indefinitely due to a torn hamstring, and Dante Cunningham still unsigned, the Pelicans have a gaping hole at the small forward spot. The Pels recently added Tony Allen, but Guillory argues that Miller is the most likely candidate to win the starting nod because Miller has shown "improved confidence shooting from the perimeter during his past two seasons in Germany and the team believes he's better prepared for his second stint in the NBA." Miller may be worth a flier in the final round of deep leagues.

C'mon B, bring it home.

[smittybanton]

Looked over NBA rosters trying to figure out who's offer we have to beat to get NOP18. Obviously, every GM in the league smells blood and is trying to get that pick from them. If their plan works, they will be a low-seed playoff team, and the pick will be somewhere between #16-20.

NO needs A) a small forward who can play up to the four. B) They also need shooters, although Rondo's and Tony Allen's three point shooting is a little better than some might imagine. C) They have no cap room, so they can't trade for someone with significant salary (unless that team is willing to take Asik, which is doubtful). D) Because they have no cap room, and If they spend NOP18, they desperately need youth. E) But because they have to make the playoffs to please Demarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis, the youth they acquire has to be ready to step in and play now. F) With Rondo, Jrue, TAllen, SHill, ADavis and Cousins' rebounding, the Pelicans are betting on defense, so the player they acquire would ideally fit that mold.

A 'big' small forward, on a rookie contract, who either plays defense and can shoot a little, or who shoots and can play a little defense, preferably both, but that's not going to happen. These are Pelicans uninspiring options. Young threes whose clubs might see them as expendable:

Oklahoma City: Doug McDermott (defense?), Kyle Singler (defense), Jerami Grant
SIXERS: Justin Anderson (shooting?)
Phoenix: TJ Warren (defense?, phx willingness?)
Portland: Jake Layman (unproven?)
San Antonio: Kyle Anderson (fit?)

If I'm Dell Demps, my top choice if I'm inclined to move NO18 would be Jerami Grant. Man to man defense, awesome help-side, reportedly good locker room guy, hit 37.7% 3pt shooting mainly from the corner.

Except, if I'm Demps, I would prefer to deal with the Sixers if I could squeeze Justin Anderson and a shooter like Furkan Korkmaz out of the deal. A small forward for now, and one for the future.

On the other side of the table, Presti probably only wants to give up McDermott, and the Sixers only want to give up Justin Anderson.

Who's going to blink first???????

[clownclownclown]

Looked over NBA rosters trying to figure out who's offer we have to beat to get NOP18. Obviously, every GM in the league smells blood and is trying to get that pick from them. If their plan works, they will be a low-seed playoff team, and the pick will be somewhere between #16-20.

NO needs A) a small forward who can play up to the four. B) They also need shooters, although Rondo's and Tony Allen's three point shooting is a little better than some might imagine. C) They have no cap room, so they can't trade for someone with significant salary (unless that team is willing to take Asik, which is doubtful). D) Because they have no cap room, and If they spend NOP18, they desperately need youth. E) But because they have to make the playoffs to please Demarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis, the youth they acquire has to be ready to step in and play now. F) With Rondo, Jrue, TAllen, SHill, ADavis and Cousins' rebounding, the Pelicans are betting on defense, so the player they acquire would ideally fit that mold.

A 'big' small forward, on a rookie contract, who either plays defense and can shoot a little, or who shoots and can play a little defense, preferably both, but that's not going to happen. These are Pelicans uninspiring options. Young threes whose clubs might see them as expendable:

Oklahoma City: Doug McDermott (defense?), Kyle Singler (defense), Jerami Grant
SIXERS: Justin Anderson (shooting?)
Phoenix: TJ Warren (defense?, phx willingness?)
Portland: Jake Layman (unproven?)
San Antonio: Kyle Anderson (fit?)

If I'm Dell Demps, my top choice if I'm inclined to move NO18 would be Jerami Grant. Man to man defense, awesome help-side, reportedly good locker room guy, hit 37.7% 3pt shooting mainly from the corner.

Except, if I'm Demps, I would prefer to deal with the Sixers if I could squeeze Justin Anderson and a shooter like Furkan Korkmaz out of the deal. A small forward for now, and one for the future.

On the other side of the table, Presti probably only wants to give up McDermott, and the Sixers only want to give up Justin Anderson.

Who's going to blink first???????

Based on that, i think the best shot we would have is trading Covington and taking on Asik.

But then again, is a third rookie (late lottery/mid teens) even worth it for us? I'd rather we focus our efforts on trading Bayless and Stauskas to free up cap space for Covington's upcoming contract (23, 14, 14, ...).

[Ericb5]

Looked over NBA rosters trying to figure out who's offer we have to beat to get NOP18. Obviously, every GM in the league smells blood and is trying to get that pick from them. If their plan works, they will be a low-seed playoff team, and the pick will be somewhere between #16-20.

NO needs A) a small forward who can play up to the four. B) They also need shooters, although Rondo's and Tony Allen's three point shooting is a little better than some might imagine. C) They have no cap room, so they can't trade for someone with significant salary (unless that team is willing to take Asik, which is doubtful). D) Because they have no cap room, and If they spend NOP18, they desperately need youth. E) But because they have to make the playoffs to please Demarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis, the youth they acquire has to be ready to step in and play now. F) With Rondo, Jrue, TAllen, SHill, ADavis and Cousins' rebounding, the Pelicans are betting on defense, so the player they acquire would ideally fit that mold.

A 'big' small forward, on a rookie contract, who either plays defense and can shoot a little, or who shoots and can play a little defense, preferably both, but that's not going to happen. These are Pelicans uninspiring options. Young threes whose clubs might see them as expendable:

Oklahoma City: Doug McDermott (defense?), Kyle Singler (defense), Jerami Grant
SIXERS: Justin Anderson (shooting?)
Phoenix: TJ Warren (defense?, phx willingness?)
Portland: Jake Layman (unproven?)
San Antonio: Kyle Anderson (fit?)

If I'm Dell Demps, my top choice if I'm inclined to move NO18 would be Jerami Grant. Man to man defense, awesome help-side, reportedly good locker room guy, hit 37.7% 3pt shooting mainly from the corner.

Except, if I'm Demps, I would prefer to deal with the Sixers if I could squeeze Justin Anderson and a shooter like Furkan Korkmaz out of the deal. A small forward for now, and one for the future.

On the other side of the table, Presti probably only wants to give up McDermott, and the Sixers only want to give up Justin Anderson.

Who's going to blink first???????

Why do we want to go for their pick in a trade, when we are already likely to have two first round picks this up coming year?

We probably have a better than 50% chance of getting the Lakers pick in the 5-10 range this year in addition to our own pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

That's already 2 more rookies, that could be combined to move up as well. We already have good draft ammo is my point.


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[smittybanton]

Looked over NBA rosters trying to figure out who's offer we have to beat to get NOP18. Obviously, every GM in the league smells blood and is trying to get that pick from them. If their plan works, they will be a low-seed playoff team, and the pick will be somewhere between #16-20.

NO needs A) a small forward who can play up to the four. B) They also need shooters, although Rondo's and Tony Allen's three point shooting is a little better than some might imagine. C) They have no cap room, so they can't trade for someone with significant salary (unless that team is willing to take Asik, which is doubtful). D) Because they have no cap room, and If they spend NOP18, they desperately need youth. E) But because they have to make the playoffs to please Demarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis, the youth they acquire has to be ready to step in and play now. F) With Rondo, Jrue, TAllen, SHill, ADavis and Cousins' rebounding, the Pelicans are betting on defense, so the player they acquire would ideally fit that mold.

A 'big' small forward, on a rookie contract, who either plays defense and can shoot a little, or who shoots and can play a little defense, preferably both, but that's not going to happen. These are Pelicans uninspiring options. Young threes whose clubs might see them as expendable:

Oklahoma City: Doug McDermott (defense?), Kyle Singler (defense), Jerami Grant
SIXERS: Justin Anderson (shooting?)
Phoenix: TJ Warren (defense?, phx willingness?)
Portland: Jake Layman (unproven?)
San Antonio: Kyle Anderson (fit?)

If I'm Dell Demps, my top choice if I'm inclined to move NO18 would be Jerami Grant. Man to man defense, awesome help-side, reportedly good locker room guy, hit 37.7% 3pt shooting mainly from the corner.

Except, if I'm Demps, I would prefer to deal with the Sixers if I could squeeze Justin Anderson and a shooter like Furkan Korkmaz out of the deal. A small forward for now, and one for the future.

On the other side of the table, Presti probably only wants to give up McDermott, and the Sixers only want to give up Justin Anderson.

Who's going to blink first???????

Why do we want to go for their pick in a trade, when we are already likely to have two first round picks this up coming year?

We probably have a better than 50% chance of getting the Lakers pick in the 5-10 range this year in addition to our own pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

That's already 2 more rookies, that could be combined to move up as well. We already have good draft ammo is my point.


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What team is rightly satisfied with the assets they have? We just saw Boston control the trade market for three years with their bevy of picks. Is it better to have NO18 and ALLLLL the things you can do with it, versus letting Justin Anderson sit on the bench and walk for nothing in return? If NO's plans don't work out, they miss the playoffs, and win the lottery, you would still want Justin Anderson instead? Matter of fact, NO wins the championship and we have the #30 pick, you would still rather have Justin Anderson with one year remaining than a more promising rookie with four years near league minimum, whom you can stash or who allows for more cap space on the 15? You have no use for Jonah Bolden or Anzejs Pasecniks?

Satisfaction is the enemy of success.

[Ericb5]

Looked over NBA rosters trying to figure out who's offer we have to beat to get NOP18. Obviously, every GM in the league smells blood and is trying to get that pick from them. If their plan works, they will be a low-seed playoff team, and the pick will be somewhere between #16-20.

NO needs A) a small forward who can play up to the four. B) They also need shooters, although Rondo's and Tony Allen's three point shooting is a little better than some might imagine. C) They have no cap room, so they can't trade for someone with significant salary (unless that team is willing to take Asik, which is doubtful). D) Because they have no cap room, and If they spend NOP18, they desperately need youth. E) But because they have to make the playoffs to please Demarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis, the youth they acquire has to be ready to step in and play now. F) With Rondo, Jrue, TAllen, SHill, ADavis and Cousins' rebounding, the Pelicans are betting on defense, so the player they acquire would ideally fit that mold.

A 'big' small forward, on a rookie contract, who either plays defense and can shoot a little, or who shoots and can play a little defense, preferably both, but that's not going to happen. These are Pelicans uninspiring options. Young threes whose clubs might see them as expendable:

Oklahoma City: Doug McDermott (defense?), Kyle Singler (defense), Jerami Grant
SIXERS: Justin Anderson (shooting?)
Phoenix: TJ Warren (defense?, phx willingness?)
Portland: Jake Layman (unproven?)
San Antonio: Kyle Anderson (fit?)

If I'm Dell Demps, my top choice if I'm inclined to move NO18 would be Jerami Grant. Man to man defense, awesome help-side, reportedly good locker room guy, hit 37.7% 3pt shooting mainly from the corner.

Except, if I'm Demps, I would prefer to deal with the Sixers if I could squeeze Justin Anderson and a shooter like Furkan Korkmaz out of the deal. A small forward for now, and one for the future.

On the other side of the table, Presti probably only wants to give up McDermott, and the Sixers only want to give up Justin Anderson.

Who's going to blink first???????

Why do we want to go for their pick in a trade, when we are already likely to have two first round picks this up coming year?

We probably have a better than 50% chance of getting the Lakers pick in the 5-10 range this year in addition to our own pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

That's already 2 more rookies, that could be combined to move up as well. We already have good draft ammo is my point.


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What team is rightly satisfied with the assets they have? We just saw Boston control the trade market for three years with their bevy of picks. Is it better to have NO18 and ALLLLL the things you can do with it, versus letting Justin Anderson sit on the bench and walk for nothing in return? If NO's plans don't work out, they miss the playoffs, and win the lottery, you would still want Justin Anderson instead? Matter of fact, NO wins the championship and we have the #30 pick, you would still rather have Justin Anderson with one year remaining than a more promising rookie with four years near league minimum, whom you can stash or who allows for more cap space on the 15? You have no use for Jonah Bolden or Anzejs Pasecniks?

Satisfaction is the enemy of success.

Yeah, having the pick would be nice in a vacuum. Im just saying that we aren't lacking in draft assets, and we are getting to the point where we are trying to shape our current roster so we should be pursuing role players that fit over the pure optionality of draft picks.




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[the_process]

So totally stupid idea based on a Minny fan on the T&T board showing interest in Jonah Bolden and Timothe Luwawu-Cabbarot...

TLC, Korkmaz, rights to Bolden, and PHI 2018 1st for Andrew Wiggins.

Yes he's empty stats negative impact, but still has a ton of upside and and otherworldly athleticism. I don't even know Minny considers that (they should if they're looking at stats and winning percentage and not at ticket and merchandise sales), and I don't know if the Sixers should consider it; but just thought it could be an interesting idea.

Yes, I know the board used to have an obsession with Wiggins, not trying to bring that back, just that with LaVine gone and Towns untouchable, the only other younger player on their roster that is of interest is Wiggins.

[Unbreakable99]

So totally stupid idea based on a Minny fan on the T&T board showing interest in Jonah Bolden and Timothe Luwawu-Cabbarot...

TLC, Korkmaz, rights to Bolden, and PHI 2018 1st for Andrew Wiggins.

Yes he's empty stats negative impact, but still has a ton of upside and and otherworldly athleticism. I don't even know Minny considers that (they should if they're looking at stats and winning percentage and not at ticket and merchandise sales), and I don't know if the Sixers should consider it; but just thought it could be an interesting idea.

Yes, I know the board used to have an obsession with Wiggins, not trying to bring that back, just that with LaVine gone and Towns untouchable, the only other younger player on their roster that is of interest is Wiggins.

I have no interest in Wiggins. I would not do that trade. I don't want Wiggins' huge contract squeezing us and not letting us make a move.

[jbent87]

So totally stupid idea based on a Minny fan on the T&T board showing interest in Jonah Bolden and Timothe Luwawu-Cabbarot...

TLC, Korkmaz, rights to Bolden, and PHI 2018 1st for Andrew Wiggins.

Yes he's empty stats negative impact, but still has a ton of upside and and otherworldly athleticism. I don't even know Minny considers that (they should if they're looking at stats and winning percentage and not at ticket and merchandise sales), and I don't know if the Sixers should consider it; but just thought it could be an interesting idea.

Yes, I know the board used to have an obsession with Wiggins, not trying to bring that back, just that with LaVine gone and Towns untouchable, the only other younger player on their roster that is of interest is Wiggins.

I have no interest in Wiggins. I would not do that trade. I don't want Wiggins' huge contract squeezing us and not letting us make a move.

You wouldn't need to make as many moves as you think going forward with a nucleus of Markelle Fultz, Andrew Wiggins, Robert Covington, Ben Simmons, Joel Embiid, TJ McConnell, JJ Redick, Justin Anderson, Dario Saric, Richaun Holmes. FAs would want to come play with this young athletic team of "star" players. Then let Fultz, Simmons, Embiid develop, along with the best team Wiggins has ever played on, making him into a better player as well, and you suddenly have a "home grown" super team a couple years down the road.

[TTP]

So totally stupid idea based on a Minny fan on the T&T board showing interest in Jonah Bolden and Timothe Luwawu-Cabbarot...

TLC, Korkmaz, rights to Bolden, and PHI 2018 1st for Andrew Wiggins.

Yes he's empty stats negative impact, but still has a ton of upside and and otherworldly athleticism. I don't even know Minny considers that (they should if they're looking at stats and winning percentage and not at ticket and merchandise sales), and I don't know if the Sixers should consider it; but just thought it could be an interesting idea.

Yes, I know the board used to have an obsession with Wiggins, not trying to bring that back, just that with LaVine gone and Towns untouchable, the only other younger player on their roster that is of interest is Wiggins.

I have no interest in Wiggins. I would not do that trade. I don't want Wiggins' huge contract squeezing us and not letting us make a move.

You wouldn't need to make as many moves as you think going forward with a nucleus of Markelle Fultz, Andrew Wiggins, Robert Covington, Ben Simmons, Joel Embiid, TJ McConnell, JJ Redick, Justin Anderson, Dario Saric, Richaun Holmes. FAs would want to come play with this young athletic team of "star" players. Then let Fultz, Simmons, Embiid develop, along with the best team Wiggins has ever played on, making him into a better player as well, and you suddenly have a "home grown" super team a couple years down the road.

We wouldn't have cap space for a big FA if we committed to Wiggins.