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Post#141 » by GoSixersBro » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:54 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I don't really get the gripes of forming "superteams". For LeBron, it's a product of Cleveland's ineptitude. If you work at a job and essentially carry the business to massive success despite everyone else being wholly unqualified, what sense does it make to stick around there when you can go to a much more enjoyable situation elsewhere?

If anything, I think his departure to LA is the blight on his career. A team with endless legends and the second most championships (now tied for most) is a pretty gross look in my eyes, particularly because you can finish out your career forming super teams as de facto GM in your hometown of Cleveland.


Absolutely. LeBron finishing his career a Laker, a franchise which loathed him for over a decade, was the most embarrassing move. Not as embarrassing as KD to GS, but close.
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Post#142 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:17 am

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Negrodamus wrote:I don't really get the gripes of forming "superteams". For LeBron, it's a product of Cleveland's ineptitude. If you work at a job and essentially carry the business to massive success despite everyone else being wholly unqualified, what sense does it make to stick around there when you can go to a much more enjoyable situation elsewhere?

If anything, I think his departure to LA is the blight on his career. A team with endless legends and the second most championships (now tied for most) is a pretty gross look in my eyes, particularly because you can finish out your career forming super teams as de facto GM in your hometown of Cleveland.


Absolutely. LeBron finishing his career a Laker, a franchise which loathed him for over a decade, was the most embarrassing move. Not as embarrassing as KD to GS, but close.


Miscalculation on his part. Covid happened. Kobe’s tragedy happened.

I thought that if LeBron won 1-2 REAL championships with Lakers, he’d have a strong fanbase to support his case for GOAT. i think his legacy got worse because i find Lakers fans are luke warm on him and im pretty sure they’re just waiting to throw him under the bus as soon as he decides to retire

Lebron was supposed to win atleast 1 championship. He was supposed to be loved by Lakers fans as much or more than Kobe, who he would have overshadowed. But life has other plans..

The biggest miscalculation for me is KD to Warriors. It robbed the fans of the beautiful game Warriors was playing. It robbed the fans of the epic match-up Warriors’ collective style vs Cavs big 3 style of play. And those two championships by KD are empty as it gets. Even KD himself reportedly regret that decision
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Post#143 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:39 am

If LeBron thought he’d overshadow Kobe by joining the Lakers well into his 30s and winning a few rings, then he’s out of his mind. He was untouchable prior to his death. Stayed (and won) with the Lakers his entire career.

Additionally, LeBron was already in the GOAT discussion before going to LA. I believe his move was purely convenience. Lakers were a husk of a team with a bunch of young talent that was able to be moved for AD. He joins and is able to run the team the way he saw fit. He could also do all his other side ventures while competing near his main home. He’s probably happy with how everything turned out, but it has done little for his legacy.
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Post#144 » by GoSixersBro » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:33 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If LeBron thought he’d overshadow Kobe by joining the Lakers well into his 30s and winning a few rings, then he’s out of his mind. He was untouchable prior to his death. Stayed (and won) with the Lakers his entire career.

Additionally, LeBron was already in the GOAT discussion before going to LA. I believe his move was purely convenience. Lakers were a husk of a team with a bunch of young talent that was able to be moved for AD. He joins and is able to run the team the way he saw fit. He could also do all his other side ventures while competing near his main home. He’s probably happy with how everything turned out, but it has done little for his legacy.


I always thought this was the real reason.

Also how funny is it we thought we had a shot at him in 2018? He'd never join our poverty franchise lol.
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Post#145 » by 76thBearCub » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:58 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If LeBron thought he’d overshadow Kobe by joining the Lakers well into his 30s and winning a few rings, then he’s out of his mind. He was untouchable prior to his death. Stayed (and won) with the Lakers his entire career.

Additionally, LeBron was already in the GOAT discussion before going to LA. I believe his move was purely convenience. Lakers were a husk of a team with a bunch of young talent that was able to be moved for AD. He joins and is able to run the team the way he saw fit. He could also do all his other side ventures while competing near his main home. He’s probably happy with how everything turned out, but it has done little for his legacy.


I always thought this was the real reason.

Also how funny is it we thought we had a shot at him in 2018? He'd never join our poverty franchise lol.



While I agree, it also could've been one of his only routes to catch MJ. He needed a 3 peat imo.
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Post#146 » by 76thBearCub » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:52 am

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Post#147 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:03 am

Andrew Wiggins === a dog
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Post#148 » by 76thBearCub » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:13 am

Wiggins would be perfect for us. Dog by day. Tobias Harris by night.
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Post#149 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:19 am

76thBearCub wrote:Wiggins would be perfect for us. Dog by day. Tobias Harris by night.


It’s almost like any player with talent can become a dog if they are surrounded by ultra talented offensive players. Wiggins is being asked to make hustle plays and exploit mismatches. I think Tobi is capable of doing the same thing. We just needed Embiid and Harden to not have lingering issues which caused them to **** down their legs.
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Post#150 » by 76thBearCub » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:33 am

Wiggins is the furest thing from dog even when playing well
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Post#151 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:43 am

Wiggins over Ben?
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Post#152 » by 76thBearCub » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:06 am

Wiggins really should be such a monster
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Post#153 » by stormi » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:07 am

76thBearCub wrote:Wiggins would be perfect for us. Dog by day. Tobias Harris by night.


Sitting here thinking this. My god what an upgrade that would be.

We can't go into next season pretending to have serious championship aspirations starting the least athletic wing in the league. Tatum and Brown would have a combined 60 on our heads nightly.
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Post#154 » by stormi » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:11 am

Negrodamus wrote:
76thBearCub wrote:Wiggins would be perfect for us. Dog by day. Tobias Harris by night.


It’s almost like any player with talent can become a dog if they are surrounded by ultra talented offensive players. Wiggins is being asked to make hustle plays and exploit mismatches. I think Tobi is capable of doing the same thing. We just needed Embiid and Harden to not have lingering issues which caused them to **** down their legs.


Disagreeing, but Wiggins is apart of my Wendell Moore theory that elite athleticism and length is enough to bracket someone as a plus defender regardless of quantifiable performances to date.

Wiggins is a freak athlete blessed with length and speed and bounce, contrarily - there is no player in the league with a smaller loose ball radius than Tobias Harris. He's not bending down, he's not anticipating a carom, he's in mindfulness mode protecting those 60 year old golf knees.
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Post#155 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:23 am



Tobi continued to play despite after this fall.

I’d like to trade Tobi for a bunch of guys. Including Gobert or Gobert type players. I dont mind replacing Tobi with Reed or Kessler.

But when it comes to sacrifice and being a “dog”, nobody beats Tobi.

Again, im not saying Tobi is a great player but I think some guys are just making Tobi as scapegoat to Ben or Embiid’s poor performance.

Embiid got a -1 DBPM and just .1BPM in the playoffs. And Tobi was supposed to carry his slack?
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Post#156 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:32 am

2018 = we lose because of Ben that TJ has to play PG
2019 = we were too small and got outrebounded and Ben at the dunker spot was trouble on our offense
2020 = ben didnt play
2021 = we’re playing 4v5, with Ben’s mental illness
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Post#157 » by Kobblehead » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:33 am

Tatum is one of my favorite players to watch, but he was off his game, more often than not, in this Finals. His scoring efficiency has been garbage, he's been awful from the free throw line by his standards, and his defense has been non-existent. Definitely a learning experience for him.
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Post#158 » by stormi » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:34 am

Ben got us Harden.

Harris has no value to anyone. He is not a difference maker, he is a thief that legitimately sucks at his job.
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Post#159 » by Sixteen » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:34 am

I can't think of a fanbase or sports city that least deserves another championship. Let's hope warriors finish these guys off Thursday
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Post#160 » by stormi » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:36 am

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