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Re: Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#141 » by Iscull » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:38 pm

Was bored this morning so looking through stats for guys aside from Maxey/PG/Embiid:

1) Caleb Martin
- 11 PPG is 1 more than he had for Miami last year
- Usage Ratio is 16.5, less than the 17.1 he had for Miami last year.
- MPG is up to a career high 34.1, averaged 27 for Miami last year.
- FGA is in line w/ last year, however, FG %, 3PT %, and FT % are all down.
- FTA average of 4.8 has more than doubled career average of 1.6.
- Averaging career highs in steals, rebounds, and assists per game.
- Plus/Minus is negative 3.3

Take: Martin is getting 26% more playing time; however, isn't hitting shots to his normal standard. Hopefully this comes back to the average.

2) Kelly Oubre
- 14.1 PPG is less than 15.4 he had las year
- Usage ratio of 22.1 is slightly higher than last year, 21.7
- MPG is up to 31.3, slightly higher than last year, 30.2
- FGA is one more than last year, however, FG % of 39% is a career low. Shooting 24% from 3, career low. 74.2% FT is about career avarege
- 3.1 FTA is .3 less than last year
- Rebounds, Assists, Steals are around last year, albeit a slight decrease
- Averaging 3.8 fouls per game, something to keep an eye on as it's a career high. Maybe he's frusterated with his poor shooting.
- Plus/Minus is negative 6.3

Take: Oubre's attempts and playtime are around the same as last year; but, he can't buy a bucket. I think he should lose some time to Yabu.

3) Jarred McCain
- While averaging only 17 MPG, McCain is putting up 11.5 PPG
- FG % is 45.6 and 35% from 3
- 100% on FT's at 1.9 FTA/game
- Plus/Minus is positive 8.5

Take: McCain should be playing 25-30 MPG.

4) Kyle Lowry
- 7.6 PPG is .4 less than last year
- FG% of 44.9 and 3PT% of 42.5% are higher than last year
- FGA of 4.9 is less than 5.9 last year
- 1.9 FTA is slightly higher than last year, FT% is 78.9% a career low
- 25 MPG is 3.5 less than last year
- Plus/Minus is positive 1.2

Take: Lowry's averaging a career low FGA, but is generally shooting okay. For a 2 win team, his plus/minus should also be telling that he's having a positive impact. I wouldn't argue for more playing time, probably keep around the same.

5) Guerschon Yabusele
- 21.1 MPG, 9.1 PPG
- 40.5% on 3's w/ 4.2 attempts/game (Awesome stat)
- 49.3% on FG's
- 64.3% on FT, 1.4 attempts
- Plus/Minus is negative 0.2

Take: Yabu is shooting very well from three at good volume. Given Oubre/Martin's trouble shooting and spacing, I think their minutes should be staggered with Yabu.

6) Eric Gordon
- 20.6 MPG, down from 27.8 last year
- 6.1 PPG down from 11 last year
- 38.5% FG is down fro 44.3% last year
- 30.4% on 3's is down from 37.8% last year
- 4.9 FGA is almost half of last year of 9.1
- Plus/Minus is negative 5.9 (Career worst by a lot)

Take: Gordon is either in a slump or he's done. Given Dowtin's minutes last night against the Knicks, it may be the latter.
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Re: Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#142 » by Iscull » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:47 pm

Some honorable mentions:

1) KJ Martin
- Plus/Minus is positive 0.2
- 17 MPG with 5.5 PPG at 70% Shooting (I think it's team best)
- FT% is 80%, about 20% higher than career average (Small sample, but he clearly worked on his shooting this offseason)


Reggie Jackson is barely playing. I wonder if, like Gordon, he's also done.
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Post#143 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:33 am

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Post#144 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:43 am

Starting McCain alongside Maxey, George, and Embiid limits his impact. Offensively, he’d likely end up as a floor spacer, a role that doesn’t play to his strengths and reduces his ability to contribute on that end. Meanwhile, his defensive limitations would still be a factor, but he wouldn’t add enough on offense to offset them in this setup.
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Post#147 » by Stanford » Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:45 am

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Post#148 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:14 pm

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Post#149 » by Iscull » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:09 pm

76ciology wrote:Starting McCain alongside Maxey, George, and Embiid limits his impact. Offensively, he’d likely end up as a floor spacer, a role that doesn’t play to his strengths and reduces his ability to contribute on that end. Meanwhile, his defensive limitations would still be a factor, but he wouldn’t add enough on offense to offset them in this setup.


I agree Nurse should stagger, but he needs to be playing about 30 MPG.
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Post#150 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:35 pm

76ciology wrote:Starting McCain alongside Maxey, George, and Embiid limits his impact. Offensively, he’d likely end up as a floor spacer, a role that doesn’t play to his strengths and reduces his ability to contribute on that end. Meanwhile, his defensive limitations would still be a factor, but he wouldn’t add enough on offense to offset them in this setup.


Maxey is the floor spacer; always has been. McCain should be the guy running the offense. We’ve handed the keys to Maxey to be Harden before and we’ve gotten mixed results. He’s alway been better as a guy to run a set with Embiid or to convert assists. I think McCain can work great with Maxey on offense.
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Post#151 » by sodmoraes » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:49 pm

I agree. Mccain can be a PG, Maxey has no feel as a passer, which is kinda bad, since we gave him a boatload of money thinking he could be a leading guard, when, in reality, hes a small sg...

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Post#152 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:54 pm

76ciology wrote:Sports media nowadays is driven by hot takes, all competing to grab attention.


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Post#153 » by mjkvol » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:57 pm

sodmoraes wrote:I agree. Mccain can be a PG, Maxey has no feel as a passer, which is kinda bad, since we gave him a boatload of money thinking he could be a leading guard, when, in reality, hes a small sg...


If McCain turns out to be the PG and these two grow into a dynamic backcourt with two guys who can handle the ball and shoot, what difference does it make?
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Post#154 » by sodmoraes » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:01 pm

It would be a potent backcourt offensively, for sure, but would be a really small one, that would be abused on defense. But, in the end, what win games is offense, and in theory, all our other positions we have nice defenders..

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Post#155 » by NearingZero » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:03 pm

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76ciology wrote:Starting McCain alongside Maxey, George, and Embiid limits his impact. Offensively, he’d likely end up as a floor spacer, a role that doesn’t play to his strengths and reduces his ability to contribute on that end. Meanwhile, his defensive limitations would still be a factor, but he wouldn’t add enough on offense to offset them in this setup.


Maxey is the floor spacer; always has been. McCain should be the guy running the offense. We’ve handed the keys to Maxey to be Harden before and we’ve gotten mixed results. He’s alway been better as a guy to run a set with Embiid or to convert assists. I think McCain can work great with Maxey on offense.

I don't think you're wrong in theory, but when the big 3 are all healthy, I just don't see them running the offense through a 20-year-old rookie. It would be awesome though if keeps playing so well that they have to make him a 30 mpg guy, whether he's technically a starter or not.
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Post#156 » by Iscull » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:08 pm

sodmoraes wrote:It would be a potent backcourt offensively, for sure, but would be a really small one, that would be abused on defense. But, in the end, what win games is offense, and in theory, all our other positions we have nice defenders..

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To be fair, our biggest competition in the East are the Celtics, Knicks, Bucks, Pacers, and Cavs. The Celtics will probably be the biggest challenge, but the rest we should do okay.

Mitchell and Garland we played very well last night.

Holiday and White are bigger, will pose a challenge.

Brunson and Bridges, we matchup okay.

Dame and Trent, we matchup okay.

Haliburton and Sheppard, we matchup okay.
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Post#157 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:25 pm

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76ciology wrote:Starting McCain alongside Maxey, George, and Embiid limits his impact. Offensively, he’d likely end up as a floor spacer, a role that doesn’t play to his strengths and reduces his ability to contribute on that end. Meanwhile, his defensive limitations would still be a factor, but he wouldn’t add enough on offense to offset them in this setup.


Maxey is the floor spacer; always has been. McCain should be the guy running the offense. We’ve handed the keys to Maxey to be Harden before and we’ve gotten mixed results. He’s alway been better as a guy to run a set with Embiid or to convert assists. I think McCain can work great with Maxey on offense.

I don't think you're wrong in theory, but when the big 3 are all healthy, I just don't see them running the offense through a 20-year-old rookie. It would be awesome though if keeps playing so well that they have to make him a 30 mpg guy, whether he's technically a starter or not.


I don’t see PG or Embiid needing the ball in their hands to “create” as much anymore. Maxey is the only person to convince and I don’t think it’ll be hard to get him to maybe split ballhandling duties.
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Post#159 » by davesilver » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:53 pm

I think McCain - Maxey is an incredibly potent backcourt.

McCain - Maxey - PG - __ - Embiid

All of those guys can get their own bucket. We need a very strong rebounder, defender, facilitator at that 4 position. Not a lot of guys that check those boxes.

Dario? Kleber? I feel like we can grow Yabu into a better version?
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Post#160 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:55 pm

Yabu is not a good rebounder and neither is embiid

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