Maxey Challenged Embiid in Team Meeting

[phillynative]

also what the **** is Nurse even here for lol

he was hired to be this hard nose no nonsense tactician

and yet apparently he has just be Doc Rivers who plays the guitar

He's really bad at managing personalities, it's probably his number 1 weakness. Our locker room fell apart when Lowry left: he got in fights with his own players, banned his coaching staff from talking to the media and they turned around and tried to stage a coup.

Nurse is a great tactician, but he won't be the guy that brings your locker room together. If anything, he has a tendency to make it worse when things are going bad and the vibes are off. A Nick Nurse locker room needs strong leaders in it that set and maintain the culture. In that sense, Maxey stepping up could be a good sign for you guys. From everything I've read about him, he's well liked and respected by his peers, despite his age.

Maybe that's why the weirdo is so attached to Lowry

[Black Mage]

So that why they gave him a 200 million extension 2 years out?

So you decide to compound a mistake by doubling down and fighting for a 10th seed for a 1st rnd exit and missing out on getting a stud in a loaded draft while giving your only hope right now a full season to rehab?

Every one knows the NBA will NOT allow good teams who purposely tank to get Flagg unless you are so naive to think the Spurs were just lucky to win the Wemby draft with the 6th worst record that season. Those other lottery teams did not deserved Wemby but Pop after the whole Kawhi holding out drama. The Sixers who form the new Big 3 this offseason to purposely tank due to their own undoing with a tampering GM has zero chance of winning THIS lotto even with the worst record. It will most likely be the Nets after suffering thru the painful Kyrie/KD/employee #25 media circus under a new hands-off owner. Maybe Utah, but those are the only two teams most deserving for a chance to win their first ever championship with a generational talent like Flagg.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/nba-rescinds-76ers-2023-2024-second-round-picks-for-tampering-with-tucker-house

So making the playoffs this season even if we lose in the early rounds is our only viable option.

Everyone can see Joel isn't right. They shut Joel down and send him for medical treatment and rehab of the knee and there's literally no one blinking an eye at them. Not even Silver.

Tanking early rather than later is so important. Sixers end up worst or 2nd worst record and Silver cannot have lottery odds remove them from the top 6. This draft has 4 guys that could fit this team. Even if you missed on Flagg or Ace; Tre Johnson is looking legit and there's a kid in BYU who is having an amazing start to the college season. That's 4 guys.

[phillynative]

This makes me wonder how he interacted with team USA, with guys he had no choice but to take heed to and respect their time...
How well did he interact with guys , was he a good teammate even though he underperformed and wasn't the main guy.. It kind of gives a glimpse of while dominant and one of the most talented players in the league. Players aren't hell bent on pairing or staying with him...
We can blame management and not being a warm climate city but with things coming out it makes you wonder.

It might be a stretch but could also some more perspective on why they held on to Tobias for so long

[WentzerWuver]

also what the **** is Nurse even here for lol

he was hired to be this hard nose no nonsense tactician

and yet apparently he has just be Doc Rivers who plays the guitar

He's really bad at managing personalities, it's probably his number 1 weakness. Our locker room fell apart when Lowry left: he got in fights with his own players, banned his coaching staff from talking to the media and they turned around and tried to stage a coup.

Nurse is a great tactician, but he won't be the guy that brings your locker room together. If anything, he has a tendency to make it worse when things are going bad and the vibes are off. A Nick Nurse locker room needs strong leaders in it that set and maintain the culture. In that sense, Maxey stepping up could be a good sign for you guys. From everything I've read about him, he's well liked and respected by his peers, despite his age.

Maybe that's why the weirdo is so attached to Lowry

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[Negrodamus]

Everyone can see Joel isn't right. They shut Joel down and send him for medical treatment and rehab of the knee and there's literally no one blinking an eye at them. Not even Silver.

Tanking early rather than later is so important. Sixers end up worst or 2nd worst record and Silver cannot have lottery odds remove them from the top 6. This draft has 4 guys that could fit this team. Even if you missed on Flagg or Ace; Tre Johnson is looking legit and there's a kid in BYU who is having an amazing start to the college season. That's 4 guys.

Even if we sidelined Embiid for the entire year, I don't think we can expect a team with PG (who is currently getting away with murder for his inability to produce like a max level star), Maxey, and now McCain to completely suck the entire year. Presumably PG and Maxey will be at full strength soon enough and we have win-now role players like Caleb Martin, Oubre (although he's a good tank commander), Drummond, etc to be passable on the court.

We're not trotting Okafor out there with Hollis Thompson and Furkan Aldemir for the rest of the season. That grouping will be late lottery, possibly eyeing a playin game.

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

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Where TF does Joel live that he's an hour and a half away? I know he moved, but he was in Center City before, right? Both the practice facility and WFC are not an hour and a half from there under any circumstances.

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

Unsurprisingly, it was blown out of proportion.

[Black Mage]

Seems like a positive development. Jo and Tyrese don't have an antagonistic relationship.

I don't think this is a very good sign at all. Maxey isn't a confrontational guy. The fact he spoke up means things Joel was doing have gotten so bad that Maxey felt it had to be said and he had to confront Joel.

Second, the fact it got leaked is an even bigger red flag. Whoever leaked it clearly either felt Joel wasn't taking it serious or the frustration was so high they risked breaking lockerroom code in order to give Joel a "kick in the a**" in hopes that it motivates him.

One thing I do know, Joel does not respond positive to being humiliated or insulted. I could be wrong, but I think within the next 5 games we are going to see Joel go one of two ways. He will either care about his image and try to get better or he'll shut it all down mentally and effort wise in a very public display of pouting. I have loved Joel from day one, but also feel I know his personality well enough at this point to know his response will be to pout.

If he pouts, Morey should have a meeting with Maxey/Joel/Jared/PG. Basically tell them that mathematically it's going to be nearly impossible to dig out of the hole and that the team will shut Joel down and work to get his health right and PG can let them know if he's in or out and if he's out they will try to trade him by the deadline.

It's funny that all the Embiid bashers have come flying out of the woodwork now to kick him when he's probably at the lowest point of his career and dancing on his grave, but the fact remains that Embiid and George are locked up here for the next four seasons.

Even if Harris entertained the idea of moving Embiid - 1. what kind of return does anyone realistically believe he could bring at this point? And 2. is everyone prepared to enter the no-man's land that a trade like that would result in?

This idea that we're going to ride two small guards, good as they are, to championship contention with the payroll and roster mess we have here is beyond delusional. We could be looking at another post-Barkley trip into the woods, and who knows when the next time we're truly relevant?

The fact remains that the Sixers best chance at success is to get this situation rectified ASAP with Embiid back on board. Blowing it up can only be the nuclear solution if there is no diplomatic way of resolving this.

I'm probably not the post you should have tagged to comment about Joel bashers. I have been one of his biggest supporters and took Joel's side on the Ben or Joel debates from years past. However, even I can see and remember the numerous different times where things don't go Joel's way on the court and rather than lock in mentally; he falls apart and begins to pout and grift even more. There is no reason to think his on court mentality changes for offcourt disputes.

I still love Joel and know he's given his body to this City, but he has become part of a larger problem for this team and unfortunately, the injuries are taking their toll.

[NYSixersFan]

Embiid is going to request a trade this off-season. The leaking of this meeting is bad on many levels.

[Stanford]

Embiid is going to request a trade this off-season. The leaking of this meeting is bad on many levels.

Only if he's urged to by the FO/ownership. It may not seem like it sometimes but Joel knows exactly how good he's had it in Philadelphia. The Knicks were the only other fanbase that had any kind of respect for him. Every other fanbase hates him.

[sixerguy]

who's the a$$h0le now.

Watch on YouTube

"Bryan Colangelo's burner accounts were used to criticize Joel Embiid, among other players and personnel. The accounts made negative comments about Embiid's behavior and performance, questioning his dedication and professionalism. These criticisms were often harsh and personal, reflecting a negative view of Embiid's character and contributions to the team"

[Negrodamus]

who's the a$$h0le now.

Watch on YouTube

"Bryan Colangelo's burner accounts were used to criticize Joel Embiid, among other players and personnel. The accounts made negative comments about Embiid's behavior and performance, questioning his dedication and professionalism. These criticisms were often harsh and personal, reflecting a negative view of Embiid's character and contributions to the team"

Colangelo is the ****. He is a 50 year old man creating burner accounts on Twitter to complain about his superstar player. Just deal with it like an adult, ffs.

[mjkvol]

I don't think this is a very good sign at all. Maxey isn't a confrontational guy. The fact he spoke up means things Joel was doing have gotten so bad that Maxey felt it had to be said and he had to confront Joel.

Second, the fact it got leaked is an even bigger red flag. Whoever leaked it clearly either felt Joel wasn't taking it serious or the frustration was so high they risked breaking lockerroom code in order to give Joel a "kick in the a**" in hopes that it motivates him.

One thing I do know, Joel does not respond positive to being humiliated or insulted. I could be wrong, but I think within the next 5 games we are going to see Joel go one of two ways. He will either care about his image and try to get better or he'll shut it all down mentally and effort wise in a very public display of pouting. I have loved Joel from day one, but also feel I know his personality well enough at this point to know his response will be to pout.

If he pouts, Morey should have a meeting with Maxey/Joel/Jared/PG. Basically tell them that mathematically it's going to be nearly impossible to dig out of the hole and that the team will shut Joel down and work to get his health right and PG can let them know if he's in or out and if he's out they will try to trade him by the deadline.

It's funny that all the Embiid bashers have come flying out of the woodwork now to kick him when he's probably at the lowest point of his career and dancing on his grave, but the fact remains that Embiid and George are locked up here for the next four seasons.

Even if Harris entertained the idea of moving Embiid - 1. what kind of return does anyone realistically believe he could bring at this point? And 2. is everyone prepared to enter the no-man's land that a trade like that would result in?

This idea that we're going to ride two small guards, good as they are, to championship contention with the payroll and roster mess we have here is beyond delusional. We could be looking at another post-Barkley trip into the woods, and who knows when the next time we're truly relevant?

The fact remains that the Sixers best chance at success is to get this situation rectified ASAP with Embiid back on board. Blowing it up can only be the nuclear solution if there is no diplomatic way of resolving this.

I'm probably not the post you should have tagged to comment about Joel bashers. I have been one of his biggest supporters and took Joel's side on the Ben or Joel debates from years past. However, even I can see and remember the numerous different times where things don't go Joel's way on the court and rather than lock in mentally; he falls apart and begins to pout and grift even more. There is no reason to think his on court mentality changes for offcourt disputes.

I still love Joel and know he's given his body to this City, but he has become part of a larger problem for this team and unfortunately, the injuries are taking their toll.

Sorry for not being clear - I was actually piggybacking on your post and kind of following it up, not suggesting in any way that you are a Joel basher. It's the ones you never hear from otherwise who suddenly can't post enough, no names need be mentioned.

[sixerguy]

who's the a$$h0le now.

Watch on YouTube

"Bryan Colangelo's burner accounts were used to criticize Joel Embiid, among other players and personnel. The accounts made negative comments about Embiid's behavior and performance, questioning his dedication and professionalism. These criticisms were often harsh and personal, reflecting a negative view of Embiid's character and contributions to the team"

Colangelo is the ****. He is a 50 year old man creating burner accounts on Twitter to complain about his superstar player. Just deal with it like an adult, ffs.

you guys all had your heads so far up your own butts with Embiid you'd of never believed anyone who spoke ill of your hero is all I'm saying

[Stanford]

you guys all had your heads so far up your own butts with Embiid you'd of never believed anyone who spoke ill of your hero is all I'm saying

Cool!

[GoSixersBro]

Read on Twitter

Unsurprisingly, it was blown out of proportion.

More "Sixer fans" in my personal life get more giddy for team drama than the on-court product so this is no surprise.

[WentzerWuver]

who's the a$$h0le now.

Watch on YouTube

"Bryan Colangelo's burner accounts were used to criticize Joel Embiid, among other players and personnel. The accounts made negative comments about Embiid's behavior and performance, questioning his dedication and professionalism. These criticisms were often harsh and personal, reflecting a negative view of Embiid's character and contributions to the team"

The same GM who traded a future 1st just to move up to draft Fultz instead of Tatum Lol. Danny boy fleeced him so bad he need to create a burner to attack our own players for his own incompetence cause he truly wanted the following two players as the face of our franchise at the time instead of Embiid.

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[Stanford]

I bet Devon Givens' inside source is Keith.

[Black Mage]

I bet Devon Givens' inside source is Keith.

To be fair to Devon; he actually does know players who talk with him. He used to have some useful player provided info that he'd share when he was with 97.5 for his evening shows.

[Ferry Avenue]

I'm probably not the post you should have tagged to comment about Joel bashers. I have been one of his biggest supporters and took Joel's side on the Ben or Joel debates from years past. However, even I can see and remember the numerous different times where things don't go Joel's way on the court and rather than lock in mentally; he falls apart and begins to pout and grift even more. There is no reason to think his on court mentality changes for offcourt disputes.

I still love Joel and know he's given his body to this City, but he has become part of a larger problem for this team and unfortunately, the injuries are taking their toll.

And that's how anyone can see him as well, regardless of how they've seen him in the past and regardless of their message board posting tendencies.

In other words, one doesn't need to have a certain history of viewing Embiid this or that way, or a certain kind of history of message board posting, to have an accurate perception of Embiid's dysfunction and its effect on the team. A person's degree of perceptual accuracy isn't "revealed" in his message board posting tendencies.

You don't need to defend yourself here. Let the "message board paranoia" fall on deaf ears.