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Post#141 » by SendEm » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:10 pm

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... the Lakers got a better player one year later without giving up Bynum or Odom, not the best example.


Yes that "much better player" IS Bynum...
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Post#142 » by SendEm » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:11 pm

I like Brand. He isn't a free agent and he's injured. Let's see how he comes back and IF he opts out of the $16 million...
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Post#143 » by Sixerscan » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:14 pm

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Yes that "much better player" IS Bynum...


I was actually talking about Gasol. Bynum's really good too though.

I read what you said wrong the first time i quoted you.
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Post#144 » by The Sixer Fixer » Tue Feb 5, 2008 10:19 pm

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You sound as if you would be a Billy King type GM always patching holes. I'm more of a visionary every move would be a move going forward even if in the short term it sets us back as a team. That very same move will get the team to a much greater position later, just like when Mitch turned down the J.Kidd deal. J Kidd would have made the Lakers better in the short term. No Doubt Billy King would have pulled the trigger on that J. Kidd trade...


Why do I sound like that? Just cause I asked you if you liked any FA's? I didn't say I would go after anyone in particular did I? The answer to my question didn't have to be "I like A, B and C". It could have been "I'm not interested in any particualr FA...I don't see any of them as guys we should use the cap room on". All I was trying to get at was, do you like any player as a target (rather than naming players who aren't available)? Since you can't even answer that, forget it.

As far as Bynum, I would never have done that deal with the Nets. I had been one of the most outspoken people about the fact that I think Bynum and D. Howard will be (Howard already is) the stud bigs over the next 10 years. We did that fantasy draft thing on this board last year and I was the guy who ran the Sixers picks. I did the following trade (there was other trades before this one that acquired the extra 1st rd pick)...

Philadelphia trades Pick #11 (became Jeff Green), Pick #12 (became Acie Law), Steven Hunter, Louis Williams and Bobby Jones to the LA Lakers for Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, Pick #19 (became Tiago Splitter), and Pick #40.

I was abused by a few people who said "Bynum isn't THAT good". I said he was better than any big in last years draft besides Oden (and that may even be debateable). Are you telling me you wouldn't do that trade? Don't think I'm some guy who can't evaluate future talent and just look for quick fixes.
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Post#145 » by freshie2 » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:50 am

SendEm wrote:People who want Josh Smith on the Sixers are the kinds of people who JUST want an entertaining team to watch. They don't care much about winning a championship. It's immaterial to them that Josh Smith doesn't offer the boards and high percentage scoring that a PF should offer. They just say "Well he's freakishly athletic. He's about as tall as a PF, and he blocks more shots than a center. The sky's the limit!" Josh Smith can't play PF just because he can average over 3 blocks per game. When his offensive skill set/rebounding reaches that of an Antwan Jamison or Shawn Merion then maybe he could seriously be considered a legit PF option. I never see him reaching that level because those players were ALWAYS talented offensively with double digit boarding ability.


Josh has limitations, but my biggest issue with this statement centers around the entertainment vs championship comment. Aren't you the fan who stopped watching last season after Iverson was traded? Iverson is the biggest example of an entertainment vs championship player in the league. Plays hard, no doubt, but his style/package is not conducive to winning...for someone with as high a basketball intellect as you proclaim, this should be pretty apparent.

Most likely, if the Sixers can sign a PF, it's goign to have to be a bit of a reach...considering the options, he has to be considered. There aren't any PF's out there who are obtainable and not a bit of a risk.
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Post#146 » by SendEm » Wed Feb 6, 2008 1:56 am

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Josh has limitations, but my biggest issue with this statement centers around the entertainment vs championship comment. Aren't you the fan who stopped watching last season after Iverson was traded? Iverson is the biggest example of an entertainment vs championship player in the league. Plays hard, no doubt, but his style/package is not conducive to winning...for someone with as high a basketball intellect as you proclaim, this should be pretty apparent.

Most likely, if the Sixers can sign a PF, it's goign to have to be a bit of a reach...considering the options, he has to be considered. There aren't any PF's out there who are obtainable and not a bit of a risk.


AI took a team to the Finals and is about 25 times better than Josh Smith. What is your point really? :crazy:
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Post#147 » by dbodner » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:25 am

Plays hard, no doubt, but his style/package is not conducive to winning


Except for, you know, when we were winning.
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Post#148 » by freshie2 » Wed Feb 6, 2008 11:21 am

A championship...plenty of players take their teams to the playoffs.

My point is, Send Em has now degraded 'fans' for not having his objective/expert knowledge, yet he stopped watching the Sixers when Iverson was traded...that, to me, is the biggest act of fandom towards an individual player I've ever heard of.

I don't think Smith is anywhere near the player if Iverson, but the 'fan' comments are hilarious considering he stopped watching his team b/c one player was dealt.

Not that this will prove anything, but Iverson improved significantly from the time when he was 22...Smith is now 22 years old...the book is probably not yet fully written.
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Post#149 » by SendEm » Wed Feb 6, 2008 12:42 pm

I've already addressed this AI thing back on the 25th of January in this thread:
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... aa36458001
I'm convinced that Freshie2 uses 76erinSJ as an alias to troll my posts. Give it up Freshie2 AKA 76erinSJ. Freshie2 even corrected my misspelling of 76erinSJ's username in that thread. LOL!
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Post#150 » by dbodner » Wed Feb 6, 2008 12:48 pm

A championship...plenty of players take their teams to the playoffs.


Oh please. There have been tons of great players who you CAN win with, but haven't won a championship. It's very hard to win a championship, and not every player worthy gets one. If Garnett wins one this year, it's not because he magically became "a player who can win a championship", it's because he finally got some talent around him. In this day and age, you need a championship quality big man to win a championship. Iverson never had that. That doesn't mean you can't win with Iverson.
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Post#151 » by 76erinSJ » Wed Feb 6, 2008 6:32 pm

Lol now Sendem is paranoid too. Just want to let you know Ive been on this board since the summer and didnt really start posting as much as I do until you joined this board and started Dala bashing for no reason. I was here when Ricky was here but under another name and I didnt post then because he was just annoying to me. But you act just like him. I wish you knew anything about computers then you would know that we have 2 different isp's. We just both cant stand you on this board because your a hypocrite. You yell at other people for being Dala fans yet you stopped watching the Sixers because AI was traded. You post stats all the time to prove your points but someone else does the same thing and you say stats mean nothing? Freshie, you should quote my post so that Sendem can read it and it will, in his mind make him think we are the same person even more.
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Post#152 » by freshie2 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 12:20 am

76erinSJ wrote:Lol now Sendem is paranoid too. Just want to let you know Ive been on this board since the summer and didnt really start posting as much as I do until you joined this board and started Dala bashing for no reason. I was here when Ricky was here but under another name and I didnt post then because he was just annoying to me. But you act just like him. I wish you knew anything about computers then you would know that we have 2 different isp's. We just both cant stand you on this board because your a hypocrite. You yell at other people for being Dala fans yet you stopped watching the Sixers because AI was traded. You post stats all the time to prove your points but someone else does the same thing and you say stats mean nothing? Freshie, you should quote my post so that Sendem can read it and it will, in his mind make him think we are the same person even more.


Just since you asked...
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Post#153 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Thu Feb 7, 2008 12:24 am

I loved Rickypryor(he made me laugh). I hate sendem.
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Post#154 » by 76erinSJ » Thu Feb 7, 2008 4:54 am

Ricky was funny until he started getting rude to other posters.
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Post#155 » by freshie2 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 11:26 am

Ricky was never funny...just obnoxious.
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Post#156 » by ITK9 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 12:52 pm

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Post#157 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Thu Feb 7, 2008 3:55 pm

Send Em makes good points occasionally...why is he so hated? I'm not on quite as much as most, but I can name more infuriating posters on this page alone, who ramble on and on and clearly know nothing about the sport. I know he hates on Iggy, and that's unpopular, but what else does he do to be so villified? Not necessarily standing up for him, just curious. Why aren't more people annoyed by clueless kids who write long-winded, ill-informed posts and less annoyed with well-informed (if not unpopular) opinions?
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Post#158 » by Mik317 » Thu Feb 7, 2008 5:24 pm

I can't speak for everyone but I don't hate SendEm, in fact I agree with him on some points ( Josh Smith and other players) and even a littl on Iggy. But he is a gys who always think he's right and when someone makes a good point he changes the topic becuase he's wrong. He also disrepect other's opinions. BUT when he does make good points hea great poster and he can always give yyou the negative side................In fact without sendEm this board would be boring becuase without his posts all you would here is Thad pipe stroking posts..........so heres to you sendEm.
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Post#159 » by Johnny Broad-Street » Thu Feb 7, 2008 5:28 pm

Ok good to know. I always see these boards as they're labeled...discussion forums. Too many people use them to post poorly written "articles" which only showcase their poor grammar and even poorer knowledge of basketball. While I don't alwasy agree with Send em, I do get the impression he thinks about what he's saying...draws from some well of intelligence and states his points clearly and effectively.
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Post#160 » by The Guilty Party » Thu Feb 7, 2008 5:29 pm

I respect SendEm's knowledge and at times, enjoy reading his rants. That said, he tends to be more than just a little "Ricky-ish" and that's never a good thing.

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