Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

[Kobblehead]

Say Cleveland absorbs Igoudala's contract and we draft a player at 4. Wouldn't that leave us with enough money to sign a nice fringe starter/high-end role player through free agency?

[Mik317]

Say Cleveland absorbs Igoudala's contract and we draft a player at 4. Wouldn't that leave us with enough money to sign a nice fringe starter/high-end role player through free agency?

or...Thad gets the philly max, amirite?


****....that could actually happen.

[Kobblehead]

Oh gawd, that is definitely a possibility.

[P2K]

Although I definitely feel that most people here really undervalue what he brings to this team. He has the skills to average 20 6 and 6.

Sure...on a mediocre team. Not on a great or elite team. Not even on a good team.

For whatever reason he hasn't perfected his jump shot. (probably to much arch)

Or maybe he's just not a good all around jump shooter. It's not a terrible thing to say. It's just like that sometimes.

[Negrodamus]

Now Iguodala is carrying teams to the playoffs?

What the...I duneven...

the same guy who averaged 14 points this year

You're right, defense means nothing in the game of basketball anymore.

[Kobblehead]

Iguodala played great defense all year long and was a major contributor. However, saying he carried the team to the playoffs is a complete reach. If anyone carried the team, it was Elton Brand because he was a consistent producer and leader each and every night.

[corwin]

If Thad gets a contract that is any higher that the min, it'll be him as well.

Jrue and Turner are lucky enough to still be on their rookie deals. Thad will all of a sudden be overpayed....then the piranhas will come out.

Well, it may be unfair but when management made Iggy the face of the franchise (& paid him 80M, more than any of the other RFAs that summer) both were taking a risk of having to live up to the expectations that come with being overpaid and overhyped. Iggy is a good player but he has never been able to live up to the those expectations. If they pay Jrue, Thad, Turner or anyone else like that, the same thing will happen.

[freshie2]

I don't think Thad gets that kind of deal...Jrue or ET ultimately may earn that, but it is too early to tell.

[PhilasFinest]

id be calling Cleveland... trying to get 4 and some of the TPE for Iguodala n Speights.

I know gay has the better offensive game...but coming off of a season ending injury, Iggy has to be able to obtain similar value.... right?

then we draft the best available @ 4, and hope that 1 of jrue, et or #4 can bud into a stud by 2013, when we will be able to try and pair them with another.

[Housh]

Say Cleveland absorbs Igoudala's contract and we draft a player at 4. Wouldn't that leave us with enough money to sign a nice fringe starter/high-end role player through free agency?

Only if they let Thad walk and change their mind about tendering Hawes. If Hawes is given the 4 million qualifying offer like the front office said they planned to, we'd have about 7 million to work with before the draft but then our 4th pick would eat up a good chunk of that (last year W. Johnson made 3.7 his first year), so we'd still just be playing with the MLE. (assuming current rules)

I guess if the timing worked out just right, they could renounce Hawes and sign a guy for 7.5 or so a year with raises.

[EBrandEra]

Thad is not going to get a huge contract once the new CBA is done, which I am sure the Sixers will wait for before they re-sign Thad.

I think we are going to see a significant reduction in average annual salaries and numbers of years on contracts. There probably is also going to be an amnesty period where teams can cut players and take the salary hit, but avoid paying luxury tax, just like what was done before.

I also expect a gradual transition to a hard cap and smaller rookie contracts.

I think those factors will help to keep Thad a Sixer.

I think Iggy could get traded to a team like the Clippers or Utah, where they have a big or bigs they could send back to balance the trade.

[Kobblehead]

I'm surprised Golden State hasn't come calling yet (or maybe they have). Apparently, they wanted Iguodala more than anyone right around the time of the deadline.

[Bensational]

how would an Iggy for Gerald Wallace swap sit with you guys?

i know Wallace doesn't fill the need of either C or perimeter shooter (although he does fancy a 3pt attempt or 4...), but he could be a nice compromise. Wallace's presence would help soften the blow of not having a strong C down low, since Crash is great on help D and loves to get in grab boards.

[insert C]
Brand
Wallace
Turner
Holiday

[Kobblehead]

The salaries are apart by about $3 million. Also, even if you threw in the 21's pick, I don't know if I would do it. I love Crash as a player, but even despite Andre's weaknesses, I think he's the better player.

[Bensational]

The salaries are apart by about $3 million. Also, even if you threw in the 21's pick, I don't know if I would do it. I love Crash as a player, but even despite Andre's weaknesses, I think he's the better player.

there's only $1.8M, so it would still be all good in a trade scenario.

i was under the impression that Iggy would be dealt because relations had soured between him and the front office? has there been any recent releases regarding that? have either or both come out and denied it? there's so much hearsay floating around on the boards it's hard to know what's legit and what's not anymore.

regardless, Iggy may be the better player, but is he the better fit? there's no perfect swap, so one team is always going to be getting back "less talent" to some degree, it's just a case of how they can use that talent.

would Batum be a preferred option?

[WassaWassa]

The salaries are apart by about $3 million. Also, even if you threw in the 21's pick, I don't know if I would do it. I love Crash as a player, but even despite Andre's weaknesses, I think he's the better player.

would Batum be a preferred option?

Iggy for Wallace is a complete lateral move. I would absolutely prefer Batum and I would be happy if we got a package back of Batum, expiring, and another small asset like your pick.

[Kobblehead]

I think you might be talking about the interview piece with Iguodala? Yes, that was a fake interview posted in a tongue-in-cheek fashion by some blogger.

I don't think Wallace really presents a different look than what we get with Iguodala right now. Both players are versatile defenders that contribute in multiple areas of the statsheet. Neither can shoot from distance. Wallace has a more favorable contract but he is also a year older. I just think a swap of Deng or Granger makes more sense for us because it gives us the outside shooting we're lacking with Iguodala. With Wallace, we don't get that.

[Bensational]

Hmmm, fair call.

I'm just throwing an idea out there, so let me know what you think:


trying to figure out potential deals has become an OCD type obsession for me. it's actually quite disruptive, but i just keep running through possible options in my head. this is my latest:

Portland
Send: Miller + Batum + Babbitt
Receive: Jameer + Bass + Orton

Philadelphia
Send: Iggy
Receive: Batum + Babbitt + Biedrins

Golden State
Send: Biedrins
Receive: Hedo

Orlando
Send: Jameer + Bass + Orton + Hedo
Receive: Iggy + Miller

______________________________

why?

Portland - their two biggest needs are a young PG and solid backup PF. Miller is an aging PG that no other team will want because he's too old for a rebuilding team, and not good enough for a contending team. Batum is a talented young prospect, but he's stuck behind Wallace at this point. Portland have to decide whether they want to keep trying to build through their youth, or add pieces that can help them win now.

Philly - they get a stud young SF who can hit the outside shot and defend, plus a C who, when healthy, can be a solid defender and rebounder, and he's only 25.

Golden State - better to spend that money on a player who will be there to play games. Biedrins needs a fresh start.

Orlando - we get our 2nd wing, plus a solid backup PG (and potential interim starting PG).


Thoughts?

[76ciology]

If everything fails (not being able to trade Iggy for a center or a lotto pick), I'm OK with the Gerald Wallace trade. Wallace has a better defensive impact on the court. He's a much more aggressivr defensive player. Offensively, he is willing to sacrifice his ego or body to get to the line. And salary wise, his contract expires in 2013. The same year wih EB42.

For me, best case would be Iggy for a lotto big man like Bismack or Kanter.

Plan B would be for an serviceable center with a contract that expires not later than 2013.

Plan C could be this G-Wall trade.

[rsavaj]

I have no idea if this will fly or not but if you guys are looking for salary relief and a lotto pick or a young center, how about

Vince Carter($4 million buyout)+
Mickael Pietrus(an expiring contract assuming he picks up his player option, which he said he most likely would) +
EITHER
Robin Lopez
or
the 13th pick in the draft

FOR

Iggy+Brand.

We try to go all in for Nash's final years, and you guys get massive salary relief and a prospect either way(13 or Lopez, depending on which you like better).