The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

[snoopdogg88]

Ben loves to get snippy and defensive with the media when they press him , “well I’m an all star”

So what’s his excuse going to be this year when he’s not even close to being an all star?

[DaSixers]

I cant stress enough how soon we need to act and can Brown, and trade simmons. Each day that goes by, Simmons value goes down more. Brown is not capable of building around his team, he plugs his team into his ridiculous offense.

We need to make moves, it is painfully obvious this aint going to work. We want to win a chip? I know this is crazy, and IDK if I would do it, but SGA and Chris Paul for simmons and tobias.

We get rid of arguably a worse contract thatn pauls at this point, and get one of the best PnR players in the league in paul.

Paul
SGA
Jrich
Horford
Embiid

that starting 5 is WAY better than our current one. Yes our window is questionable with that age, but hell, horford is 33 already anyways. We get the hell out of tobias's contract and simmons contract, both of which are AWFUL

[Vsauce12]

Serious question, what does Ben Simmons do now that he couldn't do in his rookie season or even his college season? He's looked like the same player for the past 4-5 years now. His problem is that he's too scared to be embarrassed, look at Giannis, air balling fts and missing threes short but he's still going, despite him being made fun off on places like insta and twitter . Simmons justs need to say f it and go with the growing pains, he'll be better for it.

[youngcrev]

Serious question, what does Ben Simmons do now that he couldn't do in his rookie season or even his college season? He's looked like the same player for the past 4-5 years now. His problem is that he's too scared to be embarrassed, look at Giannis, air balling fts and missing threes short but he's still going, despite him being made fun off on places like insta and twitter . Simmons justs need to say f it and go with the growing pains, he'll be better for it.

He's gotten better on defense, scoring in the post, and at making practice 3 pointers. You might be right about him being scared to be embarrassed, both from outside and the free throw line.

[DaSixers]

Serious question, what does Ben Simmons do now that he couldn't do in his rookie season or even his college season? He's looked like the same player for the past 4-5 years now. His problem is that he's too scared to be embarrassed, look at Giannis, air balling fts and missing threes short but he's still going, despite him being made fun off on places like insta and twitter . Simmons justs need to say f it and go with the growing pains, he'll be better for it.

He's gotten better on defense, scoring in the post, and at making practice 3 pointers. You might be right about him being scared to be embarrassed, both from outside and the free throw line.

Man you muat be his baggest STAN

He is not better in the post hest still atrocious at scoring even atthe rim

[youngcrev]

Serious question, what does Ben Simmons do now that he couldn't do in his rookie season or even his college season? He's looked like the same player for the past 4-5 years now. His problem is that he's too scared to be embarrassed, look at Giannis, air balling fts and missing threes short but he's still going, despite him being made fun off on places like insta and twitter . Simmons justs need to say f it and go with the growing pains, he'll be better for it.

He's gotten better on defense, scoring in the post, and at making practice 3 pointers. You might be right about him being scared to be embarrassed, both from outside and the free throw line.

Man you muat be his baggest STAN

He is not better in the post hest still atrocious at scoring even atthe rim

Another highly intelligent post from you. Keep it up.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The most annoying thing (for me anyway) is that Simmons bailed on the Aussie national team to 'work on his game'. If BS has played in the world cup Aussies would likely take home gold.

So what has Simmons developed in his game?? About the only thing i've seen is his lateral quickeness and hands/effort on D (not sure if these are thing you 'work on'. He did show nice touch on some floaters earlier in the season but that has been missing lately. I still do not understand his complete refusal to use his L hand anywhere near the basket.

Surely this guy has people in his ear telling him he'd be an MVP candidate if he had any kind of outside game, but he seems content to max out as a top25-30 player in this league. He'll likely be out of the league when his athleticism wanes and can;t get any offense in transition

I disagree, I think Simmons is the epitome of a player where the wait will have been worth it. I personally think he will continue to improve probably every year until he is thirty at which point he'll probably be a MVP candidate on a yearly basis. I know it's frustrating with him now, but it's going to be worth it in the long run.

Continue to improve?

This guy hasn't improved a single aspect of his game dating back to highschool.

Freshman year at LSU: same player he was at Montverde
Rookie year in the NBA: milked an injury so he could be eligible for rookie of the year
2nd year in the NBA: same player he was at LSU
3rd year in the NBA: same player he was the year before
4th year in the NBA: had to re-discover his love for the game, same player he was the year before

I seem to remember you saying on this forum....After Ben scored 44 points in a college game....That he was a plug in play superstar for any team that ended up with him. Clearly you have changed your stance. I really don't feel like digging to find your post about that, but you were all about him his freshman year at LSU. The Plug in Play Superstar is a direct quote from you about him. Some of us still believe he's going to be a great player. We've already paid him, which means we are heavily invested in him. Now, i'm never opposed to trading a player if the return is worth it, but I think the team should tread very carefully in doing so with him. They may end up regretting it. For the record, I doubt he finishes his career with us which could very well be an unfortunate thing...Maybe not. We'll see.

[shlo]

Ben Simmons is FOOLS GOLD! Everybody sees what they want to see in him. But he is what he is. Nothing special. Every game he plays his trade value plummets. Brand blew it by not trading him last year.

[Black Mage]

Ben Simmons is FOOLS GOLD! Everybody sees what they want to see in him. But he is what he is. Nothing special. Every game he plays his trade value plummets. Brand blew it by not trading him last year.

Not true, he would still have value if a team has a disgruntled star.

[shlo]

Ben Simmons is FOOLS GOLD! Everybody sees what they want to see in him. But he is what he is. Nothing special. Every game he plays his trade value plummets. Brand blew it by not trading him last year.

Not true, he would still have value if a team has a disgruntled star.

haha. So his value only comes from a desperate team. That's exactly my point. A year ago, he had far more value.

[Black Mage]

Ben Simmons is FOOLS GOLD! Everybody sees what they want to see in him. But he is what he is. Nothing special. Every game he plays his trade value plummets. Brand blew it by not trading him last year.

Not true, he would still have value if a team has a disgruntled star.

haha. So his value only comes from a desperate team. That's exactly my point. A year ago, he had far more value.

If he had continued to play like he did opening night against the Celtics he'd have a huge value. I truly want to know what happened to that Ben Simmons. I don't even recognize the guy who has played in the last 3 or 4 games.

[shlo]

Not true, he would still have value if a team has a disgruntled star.

haha. So his value only comes from a desperate team. That's exactly my point. A year ago, he had far more value.

If he had continued to play like he did opening night against the Celtics he'd have a huge value. I truly want to know what happened to that Ben Simmons. I don't even recognize the guy who has played in the last 3 or 4 games.

Every player in the NBA has a game or two or ten that when you look at THAT game you think, "This guy could be a star." But real stars do that all the time. Ben Simmons is what he is. An overpaid role player.

[Arsenal]

haha. So his value only comes from a desperate team. That's exactly my point. A year ago, he had far more value.

If he had continued to play like he did opening night against the Celtics he'd have a huge value. I truly want to know what happened to that Ben Simmons. I don't even recognize the guy who has played in the last 3 or 4 games.

Every player in the NBA has a game or two or ten that when you look at THAT game you think, "This guy could be a star." But real stars do that all the time. Ben Simmons is what he is. An overpaid role player.

Ben Simmons is a better handling and passing, and worse shooting (lol) Draymond Green. You can win with a guy like that, but you'd be beyond (Please Use More Appropriate Word) to run the offense through him. He needs to be surrounded by stud shooters and a primary perimeter playmaker, like the Warriors with Steph, Klay, etc.

[SixthStreet]

Still think we can win with Ben, but he can’t initiate offense in the half court any more. Tobi and Josh can split duties there.

I think the bigger problem now is that very soon the fans are going to revolt against Ben at home. I’m really not sure how that’s going to go. Get yo popcorn ready!

[DaSixers]

where is this fallacy that ben simmons is a good ball handler still resonating from? please tell me

is it because he runs fast it a strait line? or does his super coolio amazing between the legs dribble or his fake spin dribble into a pass to a wide open guy that he half the time bounces off someones foot or throws into the seats?

a good ball handler is someone that can beat his man in ISO situations, and get into the paint and not lose his dribble, but rather keep his dribble alive

ben simmons doesnt do that literally at all, as in never

all of his "handling" is coming up the court, and either passing it to a wing and then going and standing in his "I suck at bball hole" or doing a hand off and then going and standing in his "I suck at bball hole".

that is great ball handling?

[eyeatoma]

where is this fallacy that ben simmons is a good ball handler still resonating from? please tell me

is it because he runs fast it a strait line? or does his super coolio amazing between the legs dribble or his fake spin dribble into a pass to a wide open guy that he half the time bounces off someones foot or throws into the seats?

a good ball handler is someone that can beat his man in ISO situations, and get into the paint and not lose his dribble, but rather keep his dribble alive

ben simmons doesnt do that literally at all, as in never

all of his "handling" is coming up the court, and either passing it to a wing and then going and standing in his "I suck at bball hole" or doing a hand off and then going and standing in his "I suck at bball hole".

that is great ball handling?

Hahahaha that was awesome to read.

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[Black Mage]

Still think we can win with Ben, but he can’t initiate offense in the half court any more. Tobi and Josh can split duties there.

I think the bigger problem now is that very soon the fans are going to revolt against Ben at home. I’m really not sure how that’s going to go. Get yo popcorn ready!

Too late, I already advocating in the game thread that at the next home game the crowd needs to start a "coward" chant every time he touches the ball so he knows we're directing it at home and calling him out.

You're about to be paid $35 mil a year, you don't get to be coddled anymore and if the coach and team won't confront you, it's on us as the fans to do it.

[the_process]

Just waiting for the off-season trade of this guy.

[brannigan73]

Ben gets another year and then its bye bye if he doesnt get significantly better by next years trade deadline. Still too early to cut the cord as much as his passiveness and immaturity chafes me. Ultimately you cant have a guy that refuses to take the steps necessary to get better.

[Simmons25]

Still think we can win with Ben, but he can’t initiate offense in the half court any more. Tobi and Josh can split duties there.

I think the bigger problem now is that very soon the fans are going to revolt against Ben at home. I’m really not sure how that’s going to go. Get yo popcorn ready!

Too late, I already advocating in the game thread that at the next home game the crowd needs to start a "coward" chant every time he touches the ball so he knows we're directing it at home and calling him out.

You're about to be paid $35 mil a year, you don't get to be coddled anymore and if the coach and team won't confront you, it's on us as the fans to do it.

I'm shocked this hasn't happened this year yet. They should chant coward every time he goes to drive and then stops his dribble instead of keeping his dribble and backing out to give himself some space to shoot it. This chant needs to become a thing.