2019 NBA Draft

[Negrodamus]

Louis King?
On the street yet?

Not yet. I imagine he's pulling a Terence Davis and doesn't want to be a 2-way player.

[FireMorey]

It’s Harris who doesn’t know what he’s doing, not Brand. Look at what the guy has done. Let a commissioner force his GM out and force new GMs in, abandoned the process something he agreed to let Hinkie do, let all the awful medical stuff with Embiid go on, conducts a joke of a GM search, goes into last year’s draft WITHOUT A GM, and forces them to sell 2nd rounders.

Dude doesn’t care about winning he just wants to inflate to value so he can see sell the team. Any competitive owner would be pissed giving away 2nd rounders.

[smittybanton]

anyone know if dedric lawson landed anywhere?

Warriors.

of course!

[Sixerscan]

We've run the calculations a 1000 times. If you assume they bring back Butler (max), Harris (max), Redick (somewhere between 9 and 12 first year) and Scott (somewhere between 3 and 5), the apron is going to be a real issue.

Now maybe they don't end up bringing back one of Harris or Butler or Redick or Scott or don't use the MLE. But that's just compounding our problems and being even more dependent on the seemingly endless supply of quality veteran minimum players that they seem to think are out there.

Sure but there’s also permutations where they can stay under. Redick and Scott taking the lower end of your projection for example. Splitting up the mid level with two guys.

I assume they have a plan on how they are using the money. Like I’m sure they’ve discussed numbers with JJ. Judging it now not even halfway through doesn’t seem right.

It's fine if we have different amounts of faith in the front office to navigate the cap issues. But I will never understand the thought process that an eleventh veteran and the third, fourth, or fifth of the best veteran you're able to convince to take the minimum is going to provide more present or future value to the team than the 34th and 42nd best players in the draft.

I mean Markelle Fultz has amassed the 36th most win shares in his draft class so I think that’s probably wrong. Ideally you’re getting someone you think is better than the 34th best player at 34 though.

I just think they look at it like they have as many developmental guys as any contender, they have 5 picks next year, adding another young guy that could cause guys to get lost in the shuffle. How many times over the years have we seen a young player in a contract year cause an issue because there clearly isn’t a future for him here? At least a vet knows what he’s signing up for.

I’m not saying they’re gonna nail it and there might be something annoying like them only carrying 14 for part of the season, but what brand said last night made it pretty clear they have a plan for all that, and it certainly doesn’t seem inconceivable that they do.

[LloydFree]

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Really curious to see this guy in action....really raw but a ton of athleticism

Naaah. He's a stiff. He has a good physique, but he isn't athletic. He doesn't move that much better than Boban, and he doesn't hit free throws. Probably friends with Ben Simmons though, since they went to the same HS.

[FlyingArrow]

What kind of contract? Rookie min? Two-way?

[Sixerscan]

What kind of contract? Rookie min? Two-way?

Probably one of those training camp contracts to that don’t count against the cap.

[Kobblehead]

I'd rather have Tarczewski

[LloydFree]

Louis King?
On the street yet?

Not yet. I imagine he's pulling a Terence Davis and doesn't want to be a 2-way player.

I'm shocked that Louis King wasn't drafted. 18 year old 6'7, wing who can shoot already... what? Must be resisting the 2-way deal. There is no other logical reason he's not with someone.

Luguentz Dort was a guy that I was worried about, for declaring too early. He took a 2-way qith OKC. He should have returned to school, dominated, increased his 3% a little for show, and gotten himself drafted in the top 20 next year.

[PhilasFinest]

A piss poor draft and now were signing guys like Harris' brother and Koumadje who is a big stiff.

The entire scouting department should be canned.

[aHealthy3]

Do you guys believe me yet that Elton has absolutely no idea what he's doing?

Last night was an embarrassment for the organization.

[Negrodamus]

I look forward to Dedric Lawson replacing Cousins and possibly Looney. Then everyone will say “where do the Warriors find these extremely versatile big men that compliment their stars?!” Especially because the Warriors will need cheap contracts while Klay and Durant are out.

[freshie2]

Do you guys believe me yet that Elton has absolutely no idea what he's doing?

Last night was an embarrassment for the organization.

How? Poor draft and he traded away multiple picks for future assets and cash? Take a chance on the kid at 20 as a potential 3&d player, and another long shooter in the second round...focus on free agency and vets...pretty reasonable approach when you are trying to win a championship.

[Bum Adebayo]

Koumadje is not a stiff, when I watch him move he looks way more light and fluid running than a Boban. Skillset and IQ is a different thing though.
But I like taking a chance on these players because he started playing basketball at 16, there is a possibility that these kind of players have some untapped potential, albeit not very likely.

[Arsenal]

Do you guys believe me yet that Elton has absolutely no idea what he's doing?

Last night was an embarrassment for the organization.

It's already been proven on several occasions in the past. But its not Elton, it's the "collaborative front office" which means its really Harris and Blitzer who are to blame. They are meddling from behind the scenes using Elton as the front man.

[ZarcMumoff]

I would have preferred they go that route with a 2nd draft pick, but I get their line of thinking. They already have 4 guys they consider developing plus 2 2 way guys. For comparison the Raptors did not have a single rookie on their team and OG is the only real “development” guy on their roster.

No, please, do not bring up how other contenders have their roster filled out. It's much more fun to bitch that we won't be carry 6 first and second year players.

[Sixerfever216]

I would have preferred they go that route with a 2nd draft pick, but I get their line of thinking. They already have 4 guys they consider developing plus 2 2 way guys. For comparison the Raptors did not have a single rookie on their team and OG is the only real “development” guy on their roster.

No, please, do not bring up how other contenders have their roster filled out. It's much more fun to bitch that we won't be carry 6 first and second year players.

Finally people who get it lol right or wrong Elton has a plan and he told us that before the draft.

[PLO]

The day after and I'm really pessimistic about this franchise moving forward. We were sitting in a plum spot with all the picks we had and threw most of our draft away. I'm on board with Bully King's posts about this topic in recent pages.

The only thing I can say in our defence is maybe our scouting was down overall on the players available to us, but overall as a philosophy it is absurd to toss them when we have a head coach who cut his teeth as a developmental mentor.

FYI Thybulle will not be a good man defender IMO, at least this season - for all his athleticism he really isn't that strong. I hope to be proven wrong but I can well see a scenario where a Grant Williams is more of a positive on that end because of his strength while being also a much better offensive player.

[PLO]

Just to illustrate some of the opportunities missed in this draft by the 76ers, without mentioning the host of other draftable players that we passed on that potentially could be contributors for us down the line:

Gribanov's HIGHEST ranked players compared to consensus/projection. These players will present value in the draft: 1. Tremont Waters 2. Isiah Roby. 3. Justin Robinson. 4. Dedric Lawson. 5. Jordan Poole

LOWEST ranked players compared to projection, ie these players are being ranked too high according to him: 1. Pascahal/Windler. 3. Ponds/Jerome. 4. Cam Johnson. 5. Darius Garland

Interesting. I wonder how he decided on the highest ranked since a few of them have definitely caught my attention at certain points during the process.

I forgot, he also had Quinndary Weatherspoon as the 6th among his potential "steals", here are his comments on them:
1. 1. Tremont Waters (at one point I said, **** the size. The guy can freaking play. Everyone asks about next Van Vleet. I think waters is best bet for that sort of arch [sic]) DRAFTED by CELTICS
2. Isiah Roby Nah, i mean What can I say. Its similar to KPJ .. the guy is legit talented. Can he bring the intensity and motor consistently? We will see. DRAFTED by the MAVERICKS
3. justin Robinson - super underrated among PGs in this class. Young for a senior. Was Va Tech best overall player when healthy. UDFA to WIZARDS
4. Dedric Lawson - ya he can barely move. That hasn't stopped ppl ranking ty Jerome for some reason tho WARRIORS
5. Jordan Poole - basically same age as some of the freshmen but one of best shooters in the draft already. Solid enough on D to not be a total negative there. WARRIORS
6. Q. Weatherspoon - a very solid all around combo guard. Kind of "quiet" game prob has him underrated but he can play SPURS

[Mik317]

I would have preferred they go that route with a 2nd draft pick, but I get their line of thinking. They already have 4 guys they consider developing plus 2 2 way guys. For comparison the Raptors did not have a single rookie on their team and OG is the only real “development” guy on their roster.

No, please, do not bring up how other contenders have their roster filled out. It's much more fun to bitch that we won't be carry 6 first and second year players.

The Raptors bench is legit full of guys they drafted the years prior. They also were used in trades to get other pieces.

Not really the best example as to why punting on picks is a good thing.

it is simply the best method for teams like Toronto to get depth because not many people are going to go there in FA.

Recent history shows that the same is for us. Look at our FA hauls over the last 10 or so years and tell me how many great cheap deals there were....

i'll **** wait