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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1401 » by stormi » Sun Mar 6, 2022 5:19 pm

Looking at guys to bring in to capitalize off of Harden's playmaking. In terms of wide open looks, Dallas is littered with guys that are terrific off the catch from Luka dimes. DFS, Kleber and Bullock are all in the top 15 league wide for volume and are all making their open 3's at about a 40% clip.

Dallas could be a fruitful location to dump Tobi off.

Markkanen, Eric Gordan, Bojan Bogdanovic, Coby White, Royce O'Neale, Cedi Osman all seem like the somewhat more attainable guys that are willing and capable shooters to pair with our star duo.

Malik Beasley ( :( ), Bogdan Bogdanovic and Kevin Porter Jr are other shooters that have intriguing numbers.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1402 » by mjkvol » Sun Mar 6, 2022 7:04 pm

stormi wrote:Looking at guys to bring in to capitalize off of Harden's playmaking. In terms of wide open looks, Dallas is littered with guys that are terrific off the catch from Luka dimes. DFS, Kleber and Bullock are all in the top 15 league wide for volume and are all making their open 3's at about a 40% clip.

Dallas could be a fruitful location to dump Tobi off.

Markkanen, Eric Gordan, Bojan Bogdanovic, Coby White, Royce O'Neale, Cedi Osman all seem like the somewhat more attainable guys that are willing and capable shooters to pair with our star duo.

Malik Beasley ( :( ), Bogdan Bogdanovic and Kevin Porter Jr are other shooters that have intriguing numbers.


May have missed the boat on Osman, as he seems to be a staple in Cleveland's rotations.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1403 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Mar 6, 2022 10:34 pm

So I'll ask the board this would you trade Harris for Randle? With maybe taking Kemba too to make the salaries work

Not saying it's the ideal trade just that is probably what kind of offers are available at his point
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1404 » by Arsenal » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:09 pm

stormi wrote:Looking at guys to bring in to capitalize off of Harden's playmaking. In terms of wide open looks, Dallas is littered with guys that are terrific off the catch from Luka dimes. DFS, Kleber and Bullock are all in the top 15 league wide for volume and are all making their open 3's at about a 40% clip.

Dallas could be a fruitful location to dump Tobi off.

Markkanen, Eric Gordan, Bojan Bogdanovic, Coby White, Royce O'Neale, Cedi Osman all seem like the somewhat more attainable guys that are willing and capable shooters to pair with our star duo.

Malik Beasley ( :( ), Bogdan Bogdanovic and Kevin Porter Jr are other shooters that have intriguing numbers.


Kleber is the ideal PF to go w/Embiid, Harden and Maxey. Can space the floor on offense, serve as a secondary rim protector and switch on D.

I'd seriously consider packaging Thybulle + Harris to Dallas for Kleber + THJ + Bullock. Not sure they'd do it though.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1405 » by mjkvol » Sun Mar 6, 2022 11:11 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:So I'll ask the board this would you trade Harris for Randle? With maybe taking Kemba too to make the salaries work

Not saying it's the ideal trade just that is probably what kind of offers are available at his point


Why would the Knicks even think about that? To me it's a no brainer, if for no other reason than moving Randle and even Kemba would be substantially easier than Tobias.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1406 » by SixthStreet » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:37 am

Randle cannot do anything without the ball. I hate the player Tobias has become but I'd rather keep him than trade him for Randle.

And there's no way Randle is easier to move than Harris in the offseason. Randle starts a 4 year 120m deal next year. That's UGLY. Harris only has two years left.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1407 » by Arsenal » Mon Mar 7, 2022 12:39 am

mjkvol wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:So I'll ask the board this would you trade Harris for Randle? With maybe taking Kemba too to make the salaries work

Not saying it's the ideal trade just that is probably what kind of offers are available at his point


Why would the Knicks even think about that? To me it's a no brainer, if for no other reason than moving Randle and even Kemba would be substantially easier than Tobias.


I wouldn't do it without incentive.

Harris = 2 years left of a guy who doesn't fit.
Randle = 4 years left of a guy who doesn't fit.

Randle is a worse shooter than Harris. Plus a 2 years longer contract. At least Harris expires in summer 2024 when we need to MAX Maxey.

No thanks.
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Post#1408 » by mjkvol » Mon Mar 7, 2022 1:42 am

Arsenal wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:So I'll ask the board this would you trade Harris for Randle? With maybe taking Kemba too to make the salaries work

Not saying it's the ideal trade just that is probably what kind of offers are available at his point


Why would the Knicks even think about that? To me it's a no brainer, if for no other reason than moving Randle and even Kemba would be substantially easier than Tobias.


I wouldn't do it without incentive.

Harris = 2 years left of a guy who doesn't fit.
Randle = 4 years left of a guy who doesn't fit.

Randle is a worse shooter than Harris. Plus a 2 years longer contract. At least Harris expires in summer 2024 when we need to MAX Maxey.

No thanks.


Forgot Randle's extension. You're right, no deal.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1409 » by stormi » Mon Mar 7, 2022 10:15 pm

Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:Looking at guys to bring in to capitalize off of Harden's playmaking. In terms of wide open looks, Dallas is littered with guys that are terrific off the catch from Luka dimes. DFS, Kleber and Bullock are all in the top 15 league wide for volume and are all making their open 3's at about a 40% clip.

Dallas could be a fruitful location to dump Tobi off.

Markkanen, Eric Gordan, Bojan Bogdanovic, Coby White, Royce O'Neale, Cedi Osman all seem like the somewhat more attainable guys that are willing and capable shooters to pair with our star duo.

Malik Beasley ( :( ), Bogdan Bogdanovic and Kevin Porter Jr are other shooters that have intriguing numbers.


Kleber is the ideal PF to go w/Embiid, Harden and Maxey. Can space the floor on offense, serve as a secondary rim protector and switch on D.

I'd seriously consider packaging Thybulle + Harris to Dallas for Kleber + THJ + Bullock. Not sure they'd do it though.


The money doesn't work by like a few hundreds of thousands of dollars. A Shake/Boban swap might have to be included. But yea, I do this deal all day long. Bullock is a KCP type, has decent size and loves to shoot. Kleber is a legit switchable big that grabs boards, is a bomber and can finish lobs. And THJ gives us a scorer 6th man type.

Harden/Springer
Maxey/THJ
Bullock/
Kleber/Niang
Embiid/Bassey/Marjanovic

If we could bring in another defensive wing that'd be huge and it'd allow us to shift Bullock to the bench to be a way better version of Furk.

Harden/Springer
Maxey/THJ
[Thad Young / Robert Covington / Otto Porter Jr) / Bullock
Kleber/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Bassey/Marjanovic

I think that team is really close to being flawless.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1410 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:44 pm

Big picture, we need more role players who can score or offer athleticism. I wonder if Utah would bite on a Harris/Thybulle/2023 ATL/CHA SRP for Clarkson/Bogdanovic/O'Neal.

Harden/Clarkson/Springer
Maxey/Green/Milton
Bogdanovic/O'Neal/Korkmaz
MLE/Niang/Reed
Embiid/FA/Bassey
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George/Oubre/Edwards
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1411 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:06 pm

I'd do that trade with Dallas. Adding a healthy Tim Hardaway Jr would be huge for our bench. They have Dinwiddie who kind of makes Hardaway expendable.
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Post#1412 » by 76ciology » Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:57 pm

Read on Twitter


I can see this. And his defense has been good since Harden’s arrival. I just hope he can improve his accuracy and volume in knocking down his 3s
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1413 » by mjkvol » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:54 pm

76ciology wrote:
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Seeing that kind of schiit makes it seem less likely he is moved. I have a feeling that if Doc is here, Tobias will be here.

In which case the entire Process will have been for naught.
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Post#1414 » by the_process » Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:08 pm

Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:Looking at guys to bring in to capitalize off of Harden's playmaking. In terms of wide open looks, Dallas is littered with guys that are terrific off the catch from Luka dimes. DFS, Kleber and Bullock are all in the top 15 league wide for volume and are all making their open 3's at about a 40% clip.

Dallas could be a fruitful location to dump Tobi off.

Markkanen, Eric Gordan, Bojan Bogdanovic, Coby White, Royce O'Neale, Cedi Osman all seem like the somewhat more attainable guys that are willing and capable shooters to pair with our star duo.

Malik Beasley ( :( ), Bogdan Bogdanovic and Kevin Porter Jr are other shooters that have intriguing numbers.


Kleber is the ideal PF to go w/Embiid, Harden and Maxey. Can space the floor on offense, serve as a secondary rim protector and switch on D.

I'd seriously consider packaging Thybulle + Harris to Dallas for Kleber + THJ + Bullock. Not sure they'd do it though.


I'd let Dallas switch Bullock for Bertans and still pull the trigger on it.
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Re: Tobias Harris Trade Thread 

Post#1415 » by Zumramania » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:14 pm

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
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Seeing that kind of schiit makes it seem less likely he is moved. I have a feeling that if Doc is here, Tobias will be here.

In which case the entire Process will have been for naught.


Looking at it from a different perspective, stuff like that could make him more attractive to other teams. It signalizes that he is not as inflexible as a typical tank commander and could adapt to the other team's needs.
And luckily Morey is the one calling all the shots 8-) . Also if I were Brand, who is still officially our GM haha, I'd be working night and day to figure out the best solution for moving Harris, just to move on from this gigantic professional failure that was his contract.
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Post#1416 » by stormi » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:15 pm

76ciology wrote:
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I can see this. And his defense has been good since Harden’s arrival. I just hope he can improve his accuracy and volume in knocking down his 3s


This quote LMAO

Same vibes

Read on Twitter


They're in asset preservation mode.
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Post#1417 » by mjkvol » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:39 pm

stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Read on Twitter



This quote LMAO



Yeah, because Lord knows he would be piling up those individual accolades if not for the selfless sacrifices he has made for the good of the team.
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Post#1418 » by mjkvol » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:43 pm

Zumramania wrote:Looking at it from a different perspective, stuff like that could make him more attractive to other teams. It signalizes that he is not as inflexible as a typical tank commander and could adapt to the other team's needs.


Damn, that's certainly a glass half full viewpoint I can get behind.
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Post#1419 » by Ferry Avenue » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:44 pm

stormi wrote:Same vibes

Read on Twitter


They're in asset preservation mode.

Harden's career FG% is 44%, so Tobias's 4 for 10 in that instance has him making just 4 fewer shots than Harden out of every 100.
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Post#1420 » by stormi » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:47 pm

Ferry Avenue wrote:
stormi wrote:Same vibes

Read on Twitter


They're in asset preservation mode.

Harden's career FG% is 44%, so Tobias's 4 for 10 in that instance has him making just 4 fewer shots than Harden out of every 100.


You just made a generalizing comparison between Tobias Harris and a top 5 scorer in NBA history.

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