Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0

mjkvol · Post #1401 » by **mjkvol** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:47 pm

Looking forward to Kings-Warriors game 7 about as much as any NBA game this season.

GoSixersBro · Here Lies The Process May 13, 2013 - April 6, 2016

Eyeamok wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Sixers felt the need to control Butler because he was an alpha male lead, as such he could dominate and hurt feelings of a beta like Simmons, Sixers didn't want that.

Usually I find your posts to be all over the place. But this one is probably spot on. Good job.

We can all come together peacefully when it's time to trash Ben.

Eyeamok · Post #1403 » by **Eyeamok** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:48 pm

blargh wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:Simply loved what a healthy Denver team did to the sun's last night. They are basically treated as an afterthought by the media. But Murray, Gordon and Porter played extremely well. Not taking anything away from joker and the rest of the team. Gordon reminds me of Iggy. He got out of being looked at as one of the main cogs in Orlando. Went to a team where he had less pressure on him and now he has found his groove. Or it could just be the dreads he has grown.

I would still be very, very happy if somehow the Sixers ended up in the Finals against the Nuggets.

You and I both.

Zumramania · Post #1404 » by **Zumramania** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:29 pm

Mike Brown's coaching in this game is giving off some peak Doc Rivers choking vibes. Lack of adjustments, giving minutes to a trash vet like Harrison Barnes etc.

mjkvol · Post #1405 » by **mjkvol** » Mon May 1, 2023 12:54 am

Zumramania wrote:Mike Brown's coaching in this game is giving off some peak Doc Rivers choking vibes. Lack of adjustments, giving minutes to a trash vet like Harrison Barnes etc.

I can't agree. They went ice cold in the second half, they got crushed on the boards, and an all time great showed why he's that. The Kings are a fun team that can compete for a championship with a couple of tweaks and some growth from their young guys, but they ran into a championship team that played like one.

76ciology · Post #1406 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 1, 2023 8:09 am

Zumramania wrote:Mike Brown's coaching in this game is giving off some peak Doc Rivers choking vibes. Lack of adjustments, giving minutes to a trash vet like Harrison Barnes etc.

IMO the problem with this Kings is their frontcourt can’t play at a high level when Sabonis is not playing the 5 position whereas Warriors can play at a high level either with Draymond at the 4 or Draymond at the 5. But its their first year so they should look like vanilla, and yet they are already impressive. Once Brown makes adjustments from this playoff series while Warriors continues to have a hard time tweaking their roster because of their payroll, eventually Kings will caught up to them and eventually beat them.

If there is similarity with Brown and Doc is both guys are victimized with fanbase blaming coaches on roster flaw or players’ poor performance. Which has always been the case since the sport started by Dr. Naismith back in the 1800s.

Zumramania · Post #1407 » by **Zumramania** » Mon May 1, 2023 10:49 am

mjkvol wrote:
Zumramania wrote:Mike Brown's coaching in this game is giving off some peak Doc Rivers choking vibes. Lack of adjustments, giving minutes to a trash vet like Harrison Barnes etc.

I can't agree. They went ice cold in the second half, they got crushed on the boards, and an all time great showed why he's that. The Kings are a fun team that can compete for a championship with a couple of tweaks and some growth from their young guys, but they ran into a championship team that played like one.

I'm not saying that they were not ice cold, but they could have defended Curry better as well, he was basically the only Warriors player that was producing something and he managed to score 50 on them.
But yeah, my impression was that they lost the series when they had the opportunity to go 3-1 and they didn't. In that game Warriors looked like they did everything to lose and the Kings did not take the opportunity. When you lose a game like that, it is hard to win a series against the Warriors.

mjkvol · Post #1408 » by **mjkvol** » Mon May 1, 2023 11:02 am

Zumramania wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Zumramania wrote:Mike Brown's coaching in this game is giving off some peak Doc Rivers choking vibes. Lack of adjustments, giving minutes to a trash vet like Harrison Barnes etc.

I can't agree. They went ice cold in the second half, they got crushed on the boards, and an all time great showed why he's that. The Kings are a fun team that can compete for a championship with a couple of tweaks and some growth from their young guys, but they ran into a championship team that played like one.

I'm not saying that they were not ice cold, but they could have defended Curry better as well, he was basically the only Warriors player that was producing something and he managed to score 50 on them.
But yeah, my impression was that they lost the series when they had the opportunity to go 3-1 and they didn't. In that game Warriors looked like they did everything to lose and the Kings did not take the opportunity. When you lose a game like that, it is hard to win a series against the Warriors.

Agree that game four was where the Kings let the opportunity to win the series slip through their hands. Regarding Curry, the amount of crazy, contested shots he made is evidence that they were focused on him. To me it was more Looney and getting killed on the boards in the 3rd quarter that sealed their fate. As badly as GS shot the ball, this game would have been right down to the wire without all those second and third chances, which took the life out of the Kings.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1409 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Mon May 1, 2023 11:20 am

Golden State went 4-13 from the free throw line in the third quarter. The game was there for Sacramento to take. They went ice cold in that quarter despite the Dubs missing a ton of free throws. Curry was on a heater, I think the Kings did what they could, but this was more about the brilliance of Steph Curry vrs what The Kings didn't do right. I had a feeling experience would win out in this series when it first got started.

rzzzzz · Post #1410 » by **rzzzzz** » Mon May 1, 2023 4:14 pm

Murray_17 wrote:Also, Butler himself said in the JJ podcast that his issue was he heard one of the higher up in management talks about the need to "control him".

That don’t make sense. What the hell does higher management care about Jimmy calling Brett out, especially if Brett is cool with it? Coach is supposed to take the heat, and there’s no such thing as bad PR when you’re selling entertainment. And why was Embiid furious until they got rid of Brett if Brett was cool, and the someone else pushed his best buddy out is still around? Is what we call cognitive dissonance. But I guess all the trouble that Jimmy is causing Miami, despite it having a good coach, proves the point.

mjkvol · Post #1411 » by **mjkvol** » Fri May 5, 2023 2:14 am

Wow. Wonder who they'll go after.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271444/Bucks-Fire-Mike-Budenholzer

Embiid P · Post #1412 » by **Embiid P** » Fri May 5, 2023 2:32 am

mjkvol wrote:Wow. Wonder who they'll go after.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271444/Bucks-Fire-Mike-Budenholzer

Maybe Cassell due to his playing days with the Bucks?

It would obviously suck for us but you can't rule it out either.

mjkvol · Post #1413 » by **mjkvol** » Fri May 5, 2023 10:56 am

Embiid P wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Wow. Wonder who they'll go after.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271444/Bucks-Fire-Mike-Budenholzer

Maybe Cassell due to his playing days with the Bucks?

It would obviously suck for us but you can't rule it out either.

I could see Nurse getting an interview there.

Kobblehead · Post #1414 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat May 6, 2023 6:53 pm

Devin Booker was 20-25 for 47 points.

Durant just looking at him in awe.

Embiid P · Post #1415 » by **Embiid P** » Sun May 7, 2023 11:06 am

Kobblehead wrote:Devin Booker was 20-25 for 47 points.

Durant just looking at him in awe.

Just imagine if Hinkie drafted him instead of Okafor in 2015. He would have fit like a glove next to Embiid.

mjkvol · Post #1416 » by **mjkvol** » Sun May 7, 2023 1:13 pm

Embiid P wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Devin Booker was 20-25 for 47 points.

Durant just looking at him in awe.

Just imagine if Hinkie drafted him instead of Okafor in 2015. He would have fit like a glove next to Embiid.

It's pure masochism looking at some of the players we passed up over the last ten years to draft busts, but it's hard not to do.

brannigan73 · Post #1417 » by **brannigan73** » Sun May 7, 2023 9:54 pm

This team doesnt know how to win big games. I don't care if they win this game they arent going to win this series. They have too many guys that come up smalll in these games. Tobias Harris is a loser. We cursed the entire orgination when he chose him over Butler. I hope we lose in 5 and clean house. Its probably too much to ask for though. Fat boy Morey deseves to be **** canned too. If we had another solid player besides Tucker it might have been enough.

spikeslovechild · Post #1418 » by **spikeslovechild** » Mon May 8, 2023 4:26 am

Kobblehead wrote:Devin Booker was 20-25 for 47 points.

Durant just looking at him in awe.

So tired of hearing about chokic so-called improved defense.

Nuggets are going nowhere with that man anchoring their defense. No matter how good he is offensively

76ciology · Post #1419 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 8, 2023 4:48 am

The game favors these scoring machine combo guards, specially with that landing space they impose. Booker frequently flails his leg to generate space, you can see the same thing with Jimmy.

Watch on YouTube

Sorry for the plug, but Cam Thomas is also an expert with this.

Kobblehead · Post #1420 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon May 8, 2023 9:24 pm

If the game favored munchkin combo guards, the Cavs wouldn't have been so pitiful in the playoffs. This will always be a wing league. 6'5-6'9" is the ideal size for your franchise player.