TTP wrote:hookshot199 wrote:TTP wrote:
I presented my argument for why I disagree using RPM, on/off splits, team record, rebounding rates, etc.
You've indicated many times that you oppose my view but as far as I can tell, you haven't stated why. Why do you say he had a good rookie season?
Compared to what? Someone who plays 10 mpg and comes in during garbage time? Or someone who plays almost exclusively in the D League and then gets cut? Or someone who plays when Stephan Curry is in the lineup verus someone who played when Hinkie got it in his head that Isiah Canaan could play point?
I'll give you 50 years of rookies, not 20 or 30 if wish to persist, and Okafor is in the upper half. He wasn't the main reason the Sixers were bad last year. And I went through the list of top 15 or top 16 and you tried to argue that guys who played 10 or mpg had better seasons. No they didn't.
It doesn't need to be relative but maybe let's say compared to the average NBA player that played 1000+ minutes if that makes it easier.
I disagree though - I think he was one of the primary reasons the Sixers were bad last year (as well as this year when he plays).
As for the last sentence, it depends on your perspective. From my perspective, a D League level player that played less than 200 minutes all year at an atrocious level of play is going to be less detrimental than someone who played 1500 minutes at a slightly less detrimental level. The former player might be worse when he's on the court on a per minute basis, but the latter player is more harmful to his team's success.
Conversely, let's say someone was incredible and actually better than Steph Curry on a per minute basis but only played 200 minutes. I wouldn't say that player was the best (or one of the best) players in the league last season.
However, I don't think it's necessarily unreasonable to have that point of view so I'll revise my statement to "
of players that played a significant amount of minutes per game last season, Okafor was one of the worst players in the league".
Yes, and he was also a rookie. And a 19-year-old rookie. His defensive shortcomings are problematic. But his offensive game for a 19-year-old is quite incredible. Where the history part comes in is if you go back and look at some of the great players in the game, many of them were not standouts as college freshmen. And many of them didn't enter the league until they were 21 or 22. That's why it's unfair to judge him so harshly.
Do it if you wish, but I think it's a mistake.