Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0

Kobblehead · Post #1421 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon May 8, 2023 11:11 pm

All-Rookie teams announced:

First Team
Paolo Banchero, Orlando Magic
Walker Kessler, Utah Jazz
Bennedict Mathurin, Indiana Pacers
Keegan Murray, Sacramento Kings
Jalen Williams, Oklahoma City Thunder

Second Team
Jalen Duren, Detroit Pistons
Tari Eason, Houston Rockets
Jaden Ivey, Detroit Pistons
Jabari Smith Jr., Houston Rockets
Jeremy Sochan, San Antonio Spurs

Feels like they got it correct.

mjkvol · Post #1422 » by **mjkvol** » Tue May 9, 2023 12:24 am

Kobblehead wrote:All-Rookie teams announced:

First Team
Paolo Banchero, Orlando Magic
Walker Kessler, Utah Jazz
Bennedict Mathurin, Indiana Pacers
Keegan Murray, Sacramento Kings
Jalen Williams, Oklahoma City Thunder

Second Team
Jalen Duren, Detroit Pistons
Tari Eason, Houston Rockets
Jaden Ivey, Detroit Pistons
Jabari Smith Jr., Houston Rockets
Jeremy Sochan, San Antonio Spurs

Feels like they got it correct.

It has to kill MIN fans that they gave up that kid plus a king's ransom to get an older and maybe not even as good version.

spikeslovechild · Post #1423 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue May 9, 2023 2:15 am

GoSixersBro wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:Sixers felt the need to control Butler because he was an alpha male lead, as such he could dominate and hurt feelings of a beta like Simmons, Sixers didn't want that.

Usually I find your posts to be all over the place. But this one is probably spot on. Good job.

We can all come together peacefully when it's time to trash Ben.

It had nothing to do with Beta or alpha. Butler doesn't stretch the floor enough to keep Ben in the lineup.

He also needed the ball in his hands to work. So did Ben. In retrospect it was a terrible decision but at the time it made perfect sense if the plan was to keep and develop Ben because there is only one basketball and too much overlap.

Iverson Armband · Post #1424 » by **Iverson Armband** » Tue May 9, 2023 7:01 am

spikeslovechild wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:

Usually I find your posts to be all over the place. But this one is probably spot on. Good job.

We can all come together peacefully when it's time to trash Ben.

It had nothing to do with Beta or alpha. Butler doesn't stretch the floor enough to keep Ben in the lineup.

He also needed the ball in his hands to work. So did Ben. In retrospect it was a terrible decision but at the time it made perfect sense if the plan was to keep and develop Ben because there is only one basketball and too much overlap.

There were people back then saying it was time to cut bait on Simmons and calling it a bad decision to let Jimmy walk.

spikeslovechild · Post #1425 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue May 9, 2023 10:16 am

Iverson Armband wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
We can all come together peacefully when it's time to trash Ben.

It had nothing to do with Beta or alpha. Butler doesn't stretch the floor enough to keep Ben in the lineup.

He also needed the ball in his hands to work. So did Ben. In retrospect it was a terrible decision but at the time it made perfect sense if the plan was to keep and develop Ben because there is only one basketball and too much overlap.

There were people back then saying it was time to cut bait on Simmons and calling it a bad decision to let Jimmy walk.

And they would have been right.

Unfortunately, I wasn't one of them. What was said back then and I think it is still true is that Butler and Ben could not co-exist on the same team beyond that year. It was already causing friction because Butler refused to play off the ball

I mean I also never thought Bens contract would age more poorly than Butlers either. I'll be honest. If you told me then Ben Simmons would regress and look done in the NBA at age 26 I would have laughed in your face.

Eyeamok · Post #1426 » by **Eyeamok** » Tue May 9, 2023 2:16 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
It had nothing to do with Beta or alpha. Butler doesn't stretch the floor enough to keep Ben in the lineup.

He also needed the ball in his hands to work. So did Ben. In retrospect it was a terrible decision but at the time it made perfect sense if the plan was to keep and develop Ben because there is only one basketball and too much overlap.

There were people back then saying it was time to cut bait on Simmons and calling it a bad decision to let Jimmy walk.

And they would have been right.

Unfortunately, I wasn't one of them. What was said back then and I think it is still true is that Butler and Ben could not co-exist on the same team beyond that year. It was already causing friction because Butler refused to play off the ball

I mean I also never thought Bens contract would age more poorly than Butlers either. I'll be honest. If you told me then Ben Simmons would regress and look done in the NBA at age 26 I would have laughed in your face.

I would have joined you. Let's face it Simmons had all world potential. He was always just a summer away from developing that jump shot. Then the NBA world was his. Yikes. And at the time Jimmy was going around talking about he is the hardest working man in basketball. And yes he had skills but he was not the bubble Jimmy or the Jimmy we see today when he was a 76er. But to his credit that hard work has paid of extremely well.

76ciology · Post #1427 » by **76ciology** » Tue May 9, 2023 5:45 pm

The Original Jimmy trade could be the best trade in our franchise history. The problem is.. the Jimmy trade part 2 is definitely the worst trade in our franchise history.

76ciology · Post #1428 » by **76ciology** » Tue May 9, 2023 5:49 pm

Btw i dont know if ya’ll watched this but its really funny lol

Watch on YouTube

the_process · Post #1429 » by **the_process** » Tue May 9, 2023 7:36 pm

76ciology wrote:Btw i dont know if ya’ll watched this but its really funny lol

Watch on YouTube

Jimmy would like Reed and Maxey.

I imagine he and Harden would fight every day.

the_process · Post #1430 » by **the_process** » Tue May 9, 2023 7:37 pm

76ciology wrote:The Original Jimmy trade could be the best trade in our franchise history. The problem is.. the Jimmy trade part 2 is definitely the worst trade in our franchise history.

If you're going franchise history... the best trade was Wilt, and the worst was Barkley. IMO.

mjkvol · Post #1431 » by **mjkvol** » Tue May 9, 2023 8:18 pm

the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:The Original Jimmy trade could be the best trade in our franchise history. The problem is.. the Jimmy trade part 2 is definitely the worst trade in our franchise history.

If you're going franchise history... the best trade was Wilt, and the worst was Barkley. IMO.

Trading the 1st that would have been Brad Daugherty for Roy Hinson was pretty dreadful as well.

Arsenal · Post #1432 » by **Arsenal** » Tue May 9, 2023 8:55 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:The Original Jimmy trade could be the best trade in our franchise history. The problem is.. the Jimmy trade part 2 is definitely the worst trade in our franchise history.

If you're going franchise history... the best trade was Wilt, and the worst was Barkley. IMO.

Trading the 1st that would have been Brad Daugherty for Roy Hinson was pretty dreadful as well.

Plus Moses for Jeff Ruland as a part of that terrible 1986 draft day trade. One of my initial basketball memories is the Sixers torpedoing their chance of ever building a contender around Charles Barkley in just one day lol.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/moses-malone-brad-daugherty-charles-barkley-julius-erving

76ciology · Post #1433 » by **76ciology** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:31 am

How to be a 20pt scorer in the NBA

Get a skillscoach and tell him to train you on these 5 moves:
- stepback
- push off + sidestep
- drive strong, stop then pivot for a fade away
- shoot with leg kicking out
- pull up jumper at bigs when they drop on defense

blargh · Post #1434 » by **blargh** » Wed May 10, 2023 10:24 pm

Lopez making first team all-defense over Embiid is crazy, and these playoffs are showing it.

Kobblehead · Post #1435 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed May 10, 2023 10:47 pm

Writers/broadcasters have always rewarded awful defenders. Rudy Gobert is a 3X defensive player of the year and there's not a single ball handler in the NBA that he can guard.

Basic rule of thumb should be that if people literally run screens to get matched up on you because they think they can torch you for bucket after bucket, you should be disqualified from consideration.

Lopez is an even worse defender. And what's even worse about Lopez is that not only can he not guard anyone, he can't rebound either. He gives up more offensive rebounds than Jahlil Okafor.

Post #1436 » by **Stanford** » Wed May 10, 2023 11:00 pm

Redick coaching the Raptors would be perfect

GoSixersBro · Here Lies The Process May 13, 2013 - April 6, 2016

blargh wrote:Lopez making first team all-defense over Embiid is crazy, and these playoffs are showing it.

I'm not here to defend Lopez over Embiid, but Lopez was a shot blocking machine this past season. Most BPG in his career plus tied for 2nd in the league for BPG.

Post #1438 » by **Stanford** » Thu May 11, 2023 12:30 am

GoSixersBro wrote:
blargh wrote:Lopez making first team all-defense over Embiid is crazy, and these playoffs are showing it.

I'm not here to defend Lopez over Embiid, but Lopez was a shot blocking machine this past season. Most BPG in his career plus tied for 2nd in the league for BPG.

And Embiid only tries on defense in the fourth quarter of important games in the regular season.

the_process · Post #1439 » by **the_process** » Thu May 11, 2023 1:32 am

The big doofus got 1st team All NBA for the first time.

Also interesting that Jaylen Brown made 2nd team. Which means he can now ask for that supermax 5-207 deal.

76thBearCub · Post #1440 » by **76thBearCub** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:31 am

the_process wrote:The big doofus got 1st team All NBA for the first time.

Also interesting that Jaylen Brown made 2nd team. Which means he can now ask for that supermax 5-207 deal.

I saw 5 for 290-295 which absolutely blew my mind.