Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[the_process]

Also if true and Daryl reneged, it shows that social media does influence him IMO.

[GoSixersBro]

Also if true and Daryl reneged, it shows that social media does influence him IMO.

Good point.

Time for us to get him to go after Cam Thomas. Let's get to work boys!

[the_process]

maybe its us lol

maybe we are just so toxic that it somehow leads to stupid **** happening lol.

Gloated about the process? Well Embiid is out for two years bitch.
Gloated about Simmons? Turns out he hates basketball, ho.
Gloated about trading up for Fultz? Sure would be a shame if his shoulder just stopped working, prick.
Gloated about Jimmy? Nah, he gone too, ****.
Gloated about Darryl? He has had two players quit on him ever since, punk.
Gloated about Harden over Simmons? He has quit like the Nets fans claimed....jerk
Gloated about Biid's MVP? He went out like a loser, you clod.

Maybe we should try just not having any hope and expecting bad things.....

lol.

Way ahead of you. Still think it's the water, though.

[HotelVitale]

At the end of the day, this is Daryl's fault. He should have known Harden would turn on him if he didn't pay him.

The timeline is more complicated than that, it was never actually made clear that the Sixers wouldn’t pay him. Harden opted in BEFORE free agency started so they didn’t even discuss deals, and was on record being very upset that Morey didn’t secretly negotiate with him beforehand; he’s right that that’s normal, and who knows about Morey’s story that they just got hit with the tampering sanction and wanted to wait for the legal time. It’s all a little weird but what seems clear is that they never actually had any negotiations this season, never had a chance to.

I agree Morey should’ve been able to anticipate Hardens reaction to an extent but it’s also very weird that Harden decided that opting in would absolutely go one way—I’ll make a trade demand and the team will fulfill it—instead of either doing the FA negotiation or coming to some trade agreement with Morey.

[Revived]

Did he say this on his trip to China? if so, that’s actually hilarious and they should have had a bigger crowd for the mic drop lol. Obviously pandering, I can appreciate it.

Yeah think it was definitely done at least in small part to appease the crowd there. Obviously people in China are no Daryl Morey fans lol.

[Warfelg]

Also if true and Daryl reneged, it shows that social media does influence him IMO.

If Morey did reneg on this and Harden didn’t trust him why opt in? You don’t trust the guy already. Heck if you think that’s what’s happening and you “would have a max offer” on the table makes even less sense to opt in.

I think that Harden and Lillard are pushing the limits of the Player Empowerment era in two different ways. Lillard by having so many years left and only wanting one place. Harden by pushing to be out 3 times in 3 years. When you add in that in both cases they want one place that’s limited in their assets you get these situations where the GM’s have little incentive to make the move. And now for Harden (and a lesser extent Lillard) why would you give up anything of value if you are another team? He’s refusing to play. We need to get rid of him and teams are more doing us a favor by taking him.

[Warfelg]

At the end of the day, this is Daryl's fault. He should have known Harden would turn on him if he didn't pay him.

The timeline is more complicated than that, Harden opted in BEFORE free agency started so they didn’t even discuss deals. He was on record being very upset that Morey didn’t secretly negotiate with him beforehand; he’s right that that’s normal, and Morey said it was cuz they just got hit with the tampering sanction and wanted to wait for the legal time. It’s all a little weird but what seems clear is that they never actually had any negotiations this season, never had a chance to.

I agree Morey should’ve been able to anticipate that to an extent but it’s also a little weird that Harden just decided that opting in would absolutely go one way—I’ll make a trade demand and the team will fulfill it—instead of either doing the FA negotiation or coming to some trade agreement.

Harden is in the Find Out part of the F Around and Find Out.

[Black Mage]

Morey and Harden are both losers.

Don't promise people **** you can go back on.

and

Don't expect to get maxes when you give up in important games.

If Morey really made a firm promise, don't you think Silver would have punished Sixers more harshly?

[HardenGoat]

he could be talking about the opt in and trade. He was told if he opts in he would be traded to Clippers but the lie was they are shocked he opted in. Just another angle to think about. It could be the Clippers that screwed it up by backing out of including Mann. It would still be false hope though. I do believe Morey reassured Harden he would get a max though and pulled back on that.

[Warfelg]

he could be talking about the opt in and trade. He was told if he opts in he would be traded to Clippers but the lie was they are shocked he opted in. Just another angle to think about. It could be the Clippers that screwed it up by backing out of including Mann. It would still be false hope though. I do believe Morey reassured Harden he would get a max though and pulled back on that.

I think this is the bigger part because if he really felt like this, I feel like he would have said something earlier. The fact that he said this within 24hrs of the news coming that we weren’t pursuing the trade anymore is telling. Add on that the Clippers seemed to never seriously engage in the talks (all reports were they only offered up their “bad” contracts) and Morey pulling back could just really be no one was seriously engaging in talks to make a move.

[the_process]

I also think this just adds to the optics that this franchise is dysfunctional. You have like Hinkie leaving / getting removed, Colangelos come in, the guy has burner accounts trashing own players, Brett brown takes over, he’s gone, now rivers gone. Then on the players side you’ve had multiple number one picks with issues. Maybe Fultz and Simmons have same things happen anywhere, but it’s not a great look. Butler and harder come and then leave. Maybe embiid can do a sell job to some FAs to say that despite all the optics, it’s not actually a mess over here.

Except Embiid is not that guy.

They will more than likely use their cap room next summer in a trade or two as opposed to signing any FAs.

I'd really like to find a way for Jo to sit the year out. Aren't there some elective surgeries he needs?

[Jailblazers7]

The idea that Morey gave a firm promise of a max extension doesn’t hold water. Why was Harden leaking Rockets rumors all year if he had a promised deal?

[Mik317]

If Adam Silver was really about that life, he'd force some team to trade us something solid to get this over with.

[the_process]

Morey and Harden are both losers.

Don't promise people **** you can go back on.

and

Don't expect to get maxes when you give up in important games.

If Morey really made a firm promise, don't you think Silver would have punished Sixers more harshly?

I do remember Morey said something to the effect of "not engaging before official FA this year because the team got the biggest tampering fine in league history last year".

Maybe ownership said "hey Daryl f your deal with Harden we're not paying another massive tampering fine" ? IDK.

What I do know is that other teams do this ish all the time without incident or issue. The Sixers can't seem to figure it out no matter who is in charge.

[Warfelg]

Morey and Harden are both losers.

Don't promise people **** you can go back on.

and

Don't expect to get maxes when you give up in important games.

If Morey really made a firm promise, don't you think Silver would have punished Sixers more harshly?

I do remember Morey said something to the effect of "not engaging before official FA this year because the team got the biggest tampering fine in league history last year".

Maybe ownership said "hey Daryl f your deal with Harden we're not paying another massive tampering fine?" IDK.

What I do know is that other teams do this ish all the time without incident or issue. The Sixers can't seem to figure it out no matter who is in charge.

I doubt ownership said that, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they told him to keep everything up and up.

Other teams don’t do this without incident? The NBA is a tattle tale league but you only call it out if you get caught. We were caught up in the Tucker thing last year. Guess who had a fine the year before for tampering? The Heat. Who were tattled on by a team who saw they were tampering. Teams really only report it if they were just caught.

[Mik317]

The idea that Morey gave a firm promise of a max extension doesn’t hold water. Why was Harden leaking Rockets rumors all year if he had a promised deal?

I think that came from Harden realizing that Morey wasn't going to "keep his word" and trying to gain any leverage he could. Houston immediately pivoting to FVF and Brooks showed that it was a bluff on his part and he had nothing else. "Technically" Morey has "lied" to Harden quite a bit. He "retired" from Houston only to immediately take a job elsewhere leaving Harden with a wreckage of a team. He then pussyfooted on trading for him. Then when he did, he told him to take a paycut because he would give him the max next offseason...and then did not. THEN he told him to opt in and he'd trade him to LA. I think Harden is being a baby about it all BUT I also can see how one could feel led on. Harden is a delusional dolt but Morey being a snake isn't wrong either lol. Morey has been living off of Harden's success for a while now IMO...so while again its the right move longterm it is kinda lame at the same time for a guy who virtually made you too.

again both guys are losers...hell we all are.

[eyeatoma]

Ummm...

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Seriously, people think that Morey promised Harden he'll trade him?

I'm, not sure where the media get's this stuff from. Again, it doesn't make logical sense that Morey said I'll trade you no matter what, obviously it needs to benefit the Sixers.

[eyeatoma]

Also, lol...

Yet some want to still blame Jo for our playoff failures...

Yeah I get it, Jo has a role, but he has to deal with this ****...

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[eyeatoma]

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Dude, can't see your tweets, can't read them.