Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0

[Wilfried]

The Original Jimmy trade could be the best trade in our franchise history. The problem is.. the Jimmy trade part 2 is definitely the worst trade in our franchise history.

If you're going franchise history... the best trade was Wilt, and the worst was Barkley. IMO.

Moses? He gave us a ring

[Wilfried]

The big doofus got 1st team All NBA for the first time.

Also interesting that Jaylen Brown made 2nd team. Which means he can now ask for that supermax 5-207 deal.

I saw 5 for 290-295 which absolutely blew my mind.

5 years 290 million indeed

[76thBearCub]

The big doofus got 1st team All NBA for the first time.

Also interesting that Jaylen Brown made 2nd team. Which means he can now ask for that supermax 5-207 deal.

I saw 5 for 290-295 which absolutely blew my mind.

5 years 290 million indeed

Just casually way more than the unprecedented
Deshaun Watson contract. I still don't get it but maybe that's by design

[the_process]

The big doofus got 1st team All NBA for the first time.

Also interesting that Jaylen Brown made 2nd team. Which means he can now ask for that supermax 5-207 deal.

I saw 5 for 290-295 which absolutely blew my mind.

5 years 290 million indeed

Just saw it was up to 5-295?!? I guess the 207 was if he didn't make it? Anyway, that's absurd and you know he wants it and wants to be the man somewhere.

All game long tonight the Sixers should be congratulating Brown and telling him he needs to be the man. Then watch him go ham while no one else on the Celtics touches the ball and they break out in a sideline brawl.

I kid, but not fully. I think there's definitely something there.

[76ciology]

Im gonna supermax Tatum and Brown. And Im very likely to trade one of them. Because you can’t win with those two with supermax contract and having leaner depth.

[mjkvol]

Im gonna supermax Tatum and Brown. And Im very likely to trade one of them. Because you can’t win with those two with supermax contract and having leaner depth.

If they didn't have Brogdon and White, I'm not sure they get by Atlanta.

[Jay555]

Im gonna supermax Tatum and Brown. And Im very likely to trade one of them. Because you can’t win with those two with supermax contract and having leaner depth.

If they didn't have Brogdon and White, I'm not sure they get by Atlanta.

Brogdon is the reason they are the fav. They have crazy depths. But once the two Jay's get their max deals, their depths would suffer.

[Eyeamok]

I saw 5 for 290-295 which absolutely blew my mind.

5 years 290 million indeed

Just saw it was up to 5-295?!? I guess the 207 was if he didn't make it? Anyway, that's absurd and you know he wants it and wants to be the man somewhere.

All game long tonight the Sixers should be congratulating Brown and telling him he needs to be the man. Then watch him go ham while no one else on the Celtics touches the ball and they break out in a sideline brawl.

I kid, but not fully. I think there's definitely something there.

Another reason for the 76ers to win tomorrow is that it causes a lot of confusion for one of the top teams, Boston, in our conference. Is the HC good enough? We have two max players on our team who skill set overlap. How long do we keep them together if they can't win a title. How can we afford to build around them. And the fan base will go absolutely bonkers having to sit through another 76ers victory at home. So many positives to the 76ers winning tomorrow.

[Kobblehead]

Why did the Warriors even make those lottery picks? They had no interest in EVER using Wiseman, Kuminga, and Moody. They should have just traded them for established vets like they wanted to all along.

[Jailblazers7]

Why did the Warriors even make those lottery picks? They had no interest in EVER using Wiseman, Kuminga, and Moody. They should have just traded them for established vets like they wanted to all along.

Really seems like pure hubris from the owner who got greedy & thought he was smart enough to have his cake & eat it too. Imagine this team with LaMelo Ball in the Jordan Poole spot too.

Honestly an epic mismanagement of assets when you look back on it.

[Kobblehead]

The Knicks seem like they're stuck in no-mans land.

Julius Randle is a putrid playoff performer and he's on the books for another 3 years. Probably not a movable deal given his level of appeal.

R.J. Barrett may be young, but there's no real indication that he's ever going to be an efficient offensive player at this point. He wasn't all that good at Duke, either. Seems like a lot of empty production and no real impact. He's on the books for another 4 years.

Josh Hart has a player option that he's probably going to opt out of and get an additional $5m annually over what he would have gotten next year. The Knicks might not be able to retain him.

[mjkvol]

The Knicks seem like they're stuck in no-mans land.

Julius Randle is a putrid playoff performer and he's on the books for another 3 years. Probably not a movable deal given his level of appeal.

R.J. Barrett may be young, but there's no real indication that he's ever going to be an efficient offensive player at this point. He wasn't all that good at Duke, either. Seems like a lot of empty production and no real impact. He's on the books for another 4 years.

Josh Hart has a player option that he's probably going to opt out of and get an additional $5m annually over what he would have gotten next year. The Knicks might not be able to retain him.

Completely agree. The Knicks just look like an average treadmill team - 43-45 wins, maybe a 1st round win over a lesser team - but nothing more. As long as Julius Randle is your main option and 'star', you're going no further than that.

If I'm the Knicks, Brunson and Hart are the only definite keepers on the roster. Get value for Randle off an 'All NBA' season, trade Barrett before the league catches on that he's an empty suit, and go from there.

[Jailblazers7]

I’m a little more optimistic about the Knicks. Brunson is a true star so that’s a big puzzle piece to have settled. Grimes & Hart seem like playoff caliber wings. They own a ton of picks so with some shrewd GMing they should be able to reorganize their roster & dump a bad contract.

This will be a huge summer for them but hopefully they keep playing the long game like they’ve been doing recently.

[mjkvol]

I’m a little more optimistic about the Knicks. Brunson is a true star so that’s a big puzzle piece to have settled. Grimes & Hart seem like playoff caliber wings. They own a ton of picks so with some shrewd GMing they should be able to reorganize their roster & dump a bad contract.

This will be a huge summer for them but hopefully they keep playing the long game like they’ve been doing recently.

I don't disagree that the ingredients are there along with some draft capital, but if they stay tethered to the idea that Julius Randle is their "#1 guy", they will remain where they are. There will never be a better time to move him for another quality guard or big.

[Kobblehead]

I’m a little more optimistic about the Knicks. Brunson is a true star so that’s a big puzzle piece to have settled. Grimes & Hart seem like playoff caliber wings. They own a ton of picks so with some shrewd GMing they should be able to reorganize their roster & dump a bad contract.

This will be a huge summer for them but hopefully they keep playing the long game like they’ve been doing recently.

Grimes is another under 25 guy so I don't want to judge him too harshly, but coming off this playoff run with him shooting 30.4% from the field, I'm closer to putting him in that Julius Randle "playoff unplayable" camp than I him setting him aside in the Brunson/Hart keeper group.

Agree though that the Brunson aspect of it all is a huge win for the Knicks and they've certainly made people like me eat crow for identifying him as a star to sink big money in.

I just think they have a lot of tough work to do. They have to find a taker on Randle. They have to find a take on Fournier. And they have to somehow not lose assets while unloading those two. And they have to find out if Barrett and Grimes can perform in the postseason or not (bad early returns).

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I think as long as they have Jalen Brunson they are going to be a playoff team. He's arguably the best point guard in the game right now. I mean in terms of his actual position. Obviously he's not better than guys like Luka, Butler, or Jokic who are the de facto point guards of their teams, but from a position standpoint, I'm hard pressed to find a player I'd pick over him. I'd even take him over Ja Morant if I was trying to build a team. Morant for all his acrobatic, high flying flair is not the shot maker or creator that Brunson is nor will he ever be. Brunson is the guy that takes the game winner and makes it. New York struck gold with him and I hope they play it smart and not do something stupid like make a trade for Damian Lillard.

[mjkvol]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-parting-ways-with-head-coach-monty-williams-after-four-seasons/

So a finals appearance followed by two second round exits gets Monty fired.

Some organizations are very serious about competing for a championship.

[Murray_17]

I would bring Monty back as an assistant at least, his offense is great.

[Embiid P]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-parting-ways-with-head-coach-monty-williams-after-four-seasons/

So a finals appearance followed by two second round exits gets Monty fired.

Some organizations are very serious about competing for a championship.

True, but will Doc's fate be sealed after tomorrow?

[76ciology]

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