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Around the League: 2020 Offseason

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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1461 » by kriss73 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:06 am

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Adam Silver wrote:"Gross incompetence is acceptable; strategic gaming of a flawed system is not."
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1462 » by Negrodamus » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:07 am

kriss73 wrote:
Read on Twitter


It's funny, all of my tweets are currently from an hour ago and are some variation of this tweet. Then there's a few from a couple minutes ago that are:

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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1463 » by Stanford » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:15 am

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kriss73 wrote:
Read on Twitter


It's funny, all of my tweets are currently from an hour ago and are some variation of this tweet. Then there's a few from a couple minutes ago that are:

Read on Twitter

Hell of a call too. Got me hyped.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1464 » by Eyeamok » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:24 pm

This guy !!

You want it to be one way....but it's the other way. (Marlo)

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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1465 » by ivysixer2000 » Tue Feb 2, 2021 2:31 am

Well Lebusta just did that to the Hawks, it was ugly at the 10.11 mark

Hope Ben will grow up to that point, but it will take years.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1466 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 2, 2021 5:59 am

Bucks and Mavs have limited upside to their team while both are underperforming. If this continues, Giannis and Luka maybe available in the future.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1467 » by Tomjas » Tue Feb 2, 2021 8:51 am

76ciology wrote:Bucks and Mavs have limited upside to their team while both are underperforming. If this continues, Giannis and Luka maybe available in the future.


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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1468 » by Wilfried » Tue Feb 2, 2021 11:50 am

Jimmy will be fun company in the Miami area right now :)
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1469 » by Stanford » Tue Feb 2, 2021 1:49 pm

76ciology wrote:Bucks and Mavs have limited upside to their team while both are underperforming. If this continues, Giannis and Luka maybe available in the future.


Say what you will about Hinkie, but he was deathly afraid of this scenario. What you don't want is a situation where you have one superstar, expectations, and no way to drastically improve your team.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1470 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 2, 2021 6:52 pm

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76ciology wrote:Bucks and Mavs have limited upside to their team while both are underperforming. If this continues, Giannis and Luka maybe available in the future.


Say what you will about Hinkie, but he was deathly afraid of this scenario. What you don't want is a situation where you have one superstar, expectations, and no way to drastically improve your team.


Agree but Bucks and Mavs made some costly gamble with KP and Jrue. Its something we should learn from by not getting trapped to some mediocre acquisition like getting Lowry. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1471 » by SixthStreet » Tue Feb 2, 2021 10:05 pm

I think trading picks and swaps for Beal is handicapping yourself the same as the Mavs and Bucks did. Keep the asset base for when a real star like Harden comes available. Not trading for fake stars.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1472 » by stormi » Tue Feb 2, 2021 10:20 pm

76ciology wrote:
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76ciology wrote:Bucks and Mavs have limited upside to their team while both are underperforming. If this continues, Giannis and Luka maybe available in the future.


Say what you will about Hinkie, but he was deathly afraid of this scenario. What you don't want is a situation where you have one superstar, expectations, and no way to drastically improve your team.


Agree but Bucks and Mavs made some costly gamble with KP and Jrue. Its something we should learn from by not getting trapped to some mediocre acquisition like getting Lowry. :lol: :lol:


Ironic considering you want JJ Redick, old ass immobile Lamarcus Aldrige and Aaron Gordon :rofl2:
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1473 » by stormi » Tue Feb 2, 2021 10:21 pm

SixthStreet wrote:I think trading picks and swaps for Beal is handicapping yourself the same as the Mavs and Bucks did. Keep the asset base for when a real star like Harden comes available. Not trading for fake stars.


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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1474 » by Sixerscan » Tue Feb 2, 2021 10:43 pm

The bucks have the #1 offense but are oddly down at 15th in defense, mainly because teams are shooting 39% from 3 on them. Zach Lowe speculated on his podcast that it’s mainly because they’ve been trying out some more switching at times and there’s been breakdowns in communication (in additional to that probably just being an unsustainably high number, sort of the opposite of the Knicks).

They’ve clearly heard people say that their system is a regular season gimmick that can be exploited when teams have a chance to game plan against them in the playoffs, and are trying to incorporate more looks they can throw at teams. We’ll see how it goes.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1475 » by Negrodamus » Wed Feb 3, 2021 1:01 am

Feels like the Clippers are going to win this one. A more cohesive team that has time playing together and they also play defense. They've already given Kyrie and Harden some trouble so far in this game.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1476 » by youngcrev » Wed Feb 3, 2021 3:14 am

Jesus, VanVleet dropped 54 points on 23 shots. 11-14 from 3, 9-9 from the line. 100.1 TS%, lol
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1477 » by 76ciology » Wed Feb 3, 2021 5:10 am

Sixerscan wrote:The bucks have the #1 offense but are oddly down at 15th in defense, mainly because teams are shooting 39% from 3 on them. Zach Lowe speculated on his podcast that it’s mainly because they’ve been trying out some more switching at times and there’s been breakdowns in communication (in additional to that probably just being an unsustainably high number, sort of the opposite of the Knicks).

They’ve clearly heard people say that their system is a regular season gimmick that can be exploited when teams have a chance to game plan against them in the playoffs, and are trying to incorporate more looks they can throw at teams. We’ll see how it goes.


I find their problem in the playoffs are on offense. Particularly, on crunch time where it seems Middleton is their primary option.

Defensively, they were good the issue was IMO they are predictable.

The big disparity between reg season and playoffs for them IMO is Giannis. I find transition to be more powerful during the reg season, and that is where Giannis thrives. But in the playoffs its less transition and more of those “trading baskets” in the closing minutes stretch (clutch as per the analytics) and that is where I find Giannis struggles.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1478 » by Sixerscan » Wed Feb 3, 2021 2:47 pm

76ciology wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:The bucks have the #1 offense but are oddly down at 15th in defense, mainly because teams are shooting 39% from 3 on them. Zach Lowe speculated on his podcast that it’s mainly because they’ve been trying out some more switching at times and there’s been breakdowns in communication (in additional to that probably just being an unsustainably high number, sort of the opposite of the Knicks).

They’ve clearly heard people say that their system is a regular season gimmick that can be exploited when teams have a chance to game plan against them in the playoffs, and are trying to incorporate more looks they can throw at teams. We’ll see how it goes.


I find their problem in the playoffs are on offense. Particularly, on crunch time where it seems Middleton is their primary option.

Defensively, they were good the issue was IMO they are predictable.

The big disparity between reg season and playoffs for them IMO is Giannis. I find transition to be more powerful during the reg season, and that is where Giannis thrives. But in the playoffs its less transition and more of those “trading baskets” in the closing minutes stretch (clutch as per the analytics) and that is where I find Giannis struggles.


Lowe also said that apparently Giannis is setting more screens than he ever has before so maybe between that and having Jrue as a second creator now will address the stagnation issues.

Still feels like they’re a guy short. And if Lopez is just old now that puts them in a tough spot.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1479 » by 76ciology » Wed Feb 3, 2021 5:46 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
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Sixerscan wrote:The bucks have the #1 offense but are oddly down at 15th in defense, mainly because teams are shooting 39% from 3 on them. Zach Lowe speculated on his podcast that it’s mainly because they’ve been trying out some more switching at times and there’s been breakdowns in communication (in additional to that probably just being an unsustainably high number, sort of the opposite of the Knicks).

They’ve clearly heard people say that their system is a regular season gimmick that can be exploited when teams have a chance to game plan against them in the playoffs, and are trying to incorporate more looks they can throw at teams. We’ll see how it goes.


I find their problem in the playoffs are on offense. Particularly, on crunch time where it seems Middleton is their primary option.

Defensively, they were good the issue was IMO they are predictable.

The big disparity between reg season and playoffs for them IMO is Giannis. I find transition to be more powerful during the reg season, and that is where Giannis thrives. But in the playoffs its less transition and more of those “trading baskets” in the closing minutes stretch (clutch as per the analytics) and that is where I find Giannis struggles.


Lowe also said that apparently Giannis is setting more screens than he ever has before so maybe between that and having Jrue as a second creator now will address the stagnation issues.

Still feels like they’re a guy short. And if Lopez is just old now that puts them in a tough spot.


They need a way better scorer than Jrue. Atleast someone as good as Middleton but preferably way better.

Jrue is scoring 20% on crunch time this season while
Bledsoe scores 40% for them on crunch time last season.

During the 2020 playoffs, Giannis is third on scoring in crunch time, 13% of their team’s shots compared to 26% for Middleton. Bledose took slightly more share of their team’s shot attempts in crunch time than Giannis.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1480 » by Sixerscan » Wed Feb 3, 2021 5:58 pm

76ciology wrote:
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76ciology wrote:
I find their problem in the playoffs are on offense. Particularly, on crunch time where it seems Middleton is their primary option.

Defensively, they were good the issue was IMO they are predictable.

The big disparity between reg season and playoffs for them IMO is Giannis. I find transition to be more powerful during the reg season, and that is where Giannis thrives. But in the playoffs its less transition and more of those “trading baskets” in the closing minutes stretch (clutch as per the analytics) and that is where I find Giannis struggles.


Lowe also said that apparently Giannis is setting more screens than he ever has before so maybe between that and having Jrue as a second creator now will address the stagnation issues.

Still feels like they’re a guy short. And if Lopez is just old now that puts them in a tough spot.


They need a way better scorer than Jrue. Atleast someone as good as Middleton but preferably way better.

Jrue is scoring 20% on crunch time this season while
Bledsoe scores 40% for them on crunch time last season.

During the 2020 playoffs, Giannis is third on scoring in crunch time, 13% of their team’s shots compared to 26% for Middleton. Bledose took slightly more share of their team’s shot attempts in crunch time than Giannis.


I don't know exactly what stat you are referring to here but I don't find that very compelling or predictive of anything. Like you realize Giannis got hurt in the playoffs and missed the end of the Heat series right? And that Jrue number is based on what 2-3 games? Bledsoe has been collapsing in the playoffs for years and I think it's reasonable to expect Jrue to be a steadier performer.

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