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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1481 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:51 pm

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skulky wrote:Fournier is an ufa, no? People complain about harris’ playoff performances, I don’t think Fournier is the answer. He’s been as bad or worse.
Disregard. Thought Fournier still had another year.

It's not that Fournier is some kind of major upgrade (better fit, but I'd say he's a worse overall player than Tobi), its about ridding ourselves of his contract ramifications. Moot point if he's a UFA.

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He's got a player option that I doubt he opts out of, so you were right
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1482 » by the_process » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:53 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Only player under contract in SacTown I think is worth talking about is Fox.

Chicago has some real interesting pieces, though. Would love to get Porter and Young in here as beastly jumbo wing sized defenders. Give us our answer for Boston's scoring Fs, along with Simmons.


Sacto and Chicago are the best chances of dumping the Harris contract is what I was thinking. But there's also OKC and UTA and WSH as potential destinations.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1483 » by skulky » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:54 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I'd rather have Rozier than Schroder. Terry has the ability to defend the point of attack when he's locked in. Dennis seems content to just be annoying/dirty as opposed to actually playing good defense (similar to Lance).

I agree terry would be better target, and probably cost the team a lot less to acquire. Rozier is a good point of attack defender, while also shooting over 40% from 3.

I agree about Schroder being dirty, but I think his defense was improved this year and not just a dirty player. He had harden at times in that series and wasn’t bad.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1484 » by Kobblehead » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:57 pm

youngcrev wrote:He's got a player option that I doubt he opts out of, so you were right

Why's that?

$17m over 1 year isn't a particularly high amount of guaranteed money for a 17+ ppg scorer.

Even if his next contract doesn't eclipse that annual value, he's definitely going to be in the ballpark of it. And he's probably going to either double or triple that total number of guaranteed money over a multi.

I think it would be bad business for him to stay in that deal.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1485 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:58 pm

I think Schroder is just a better basketball player than Rozier. Rozier is a pull your hair out while you're watching him kind of player.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1486 » by Kobblehead » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:03 pm

That's been the knock on Schroder up until this year, too, though.

His scoring efficiency, willingness to distribute, crappy finishing ability and bad defense have always been extremely frustrating for his team's fans to watch.
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Post#1487 » by skulky » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:07 pm

youngcrev wrote:I think Schroder is just a better basketball player than Rozier. Rozier is a pull your hair out while you're watching him kind of player.

In a vacuum yes schroder is a better player. However the opportunity cost to acquire him from okc is going to be much more.

Charlotte has to put both monk and Devonte Graham, and moving rozier is priority this offseason. We could get a serviceable player in rozier, a good backup center in Cody zeller, whole also moving off of horford.

A deal for schroder is not going to unload horford or Harris.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1488 » by Kobblehead » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:11 pm

Schroder is a more productive and consistent scorer, but I'd easily take Rozier's skillset over his.

Terry is at that back half of the 20s age where things start to click for players and they figure out how to contribute to winning basketball. So if he puts his defense and shotcreating abilities together more consistently, he's just a flatout better basketball player than Dennis ever can be in the playoffs.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1489 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:17 pm

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youngcrev wrote:I think Schroder is just a better basketball player than Rozier. Rozier is a pull your hair out while you're watching him kind of player.

In a vacuum yes schroder is a better player. However the opportunity cost to acquire him from okc is going to be much more.

Charlotte has to put both monk and Devonte Graham, and moving rozier is priority this offseason. We could get a serviceable player in rozier, a good backup center in Cody zeller, whole also moving off of horford.

A deal for schroder is not going to unload horford or Harris.


If Charlotte is willing to eat Horford straight up for Rozier I'd be fine with that as well. All things being equal, I'd just rather have Schroder.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1490 » by Los5782 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:27 pm

Lillard... sigh... must be some second hand trees in the air, don't mind me
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1491 » by Arsenal » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:33 pm

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skulky wrote:
youngcrev wrote:I think Schroder is just a better basketball player than Rozier. Rozier is a pull your hair out while you're watching him kind of player.

In a vacuum yes schroder is a better player. However the opportunity cost to acquire him from okc is going to be much more.

Charlotte has to put both monk and Devonte Graham, and moving rozier is priority this offseason. We could get a serviceable player in rozier, a good backup center in Cody zeller, whole also moving off of horford.

A deal for schroder is not going to unload horford or Harris.


If Charlotte is willing to eat Horford straight up for Rozier I'd be fine with that as well. All things being equal, I'd just rather have Schroder.


We'd be crazy to turn down Horford for Rozier straight up. The Hornets would be even crazier to offer it. Happy to take back Zeller too who could slide in as our backup 5.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1492 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:43 pm

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youngcrev wrote:He's got a player option that I doubt he opts out of, so you were right

Why's that?

$17m over 1 year isn't a particularly high amount of guaranteed money for a 17+ ppg scorer.

Even if his next contract doesn't eclipse that annual value, he's definitely going to be in the ballpark of it. And he's probably going to either double or triple that total number of guaranteed money over a multi.

I think it would be bad business for him to stay in that deal.


Because he won't get 17 in this market, and there will be more money out there next year. Too much uncertainty with this season not to opt in.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1493 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:47 pm

Rozier and Schroder are pretty much the same age btw even though it seems like Schroder has been in the league for forever.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1494 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:51 pm

I wonder if we have the pieces (sans Jo/Ben) to pry away Oladipo in a contract year. Another guy with some injury concerns and not the best shooter, but when healthy he's a guy that can score off the bounce in isos and PnR at a good rate while also being a plus on the defensive end. I think he'd be a better option than Jrue (who I'd also have interest in, but we talk about him enough)
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1495 » by stormi » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:59 pm

Ngl I'd much rather have Jrue. Like even if they could be acquired for the same somewhat reasonable cost. He's better on both ends of the ball to me and Dipo's knees are a horror movie
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1496 » by Mik317 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:03 pm

Jrue isn't exactly ironman either
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1497 » by stormi » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:06 pm

Dipo's played less games in the last two seasons than Jrue has played this season alone. A downgrade to me nonetheless
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1498 » by Mik317 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:51 pm

no doubt . Dipo is a one year wonder who may be washed as well. Lowkey lost the Pacers games in the playoffs...

but of course that might make him "easier" to get
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1499 » by youngcrev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:55 pm

stormi wrote:Ngl I'd much rather have Jrue. Like even if they could be acquired for the same somewhat reasonable cost. He's better on both ends of the ball to me and Dipo's knees are a horror movie


I love Jrue, but I'm not sure I'd agree he's a better offensive player, particularly for our needs. I think Vik's a better iso/PnR scorer and a more legit late game go-to-option (when healthy). Better ability to get to the rim and finish or get fouled. Both are mediocre but willing shooters from 3. Jrue's a better passer and plays with more control. Jrue's an elite man-to-man defender, but Oladipo's also good on that end.

Maybe I'm underestimating the injury concerns (though again, not getting him without that). I'd be happy to have either one of those guys, though we probably don't have the pieces regardless.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#1500 » by Kobblehead » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:15 pm

I feel more confident in Jrue's ability to consistently get a bucket off the dribble.

With Oladipo, you're playing role player roulette. Are you getting role-playing OKC Dipo or unchained monster that he was in his first two years with Indy. When he came back from injury in the playoffs, he looked more like a hobbled version of the role player he was in OKC.

I don't want to get my hopes up in a landing a two-way playoff beast and then turns out he can't get a bucket in the halfcourt off the dribble. That would be devastating to my morale.

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