Ben Simmons Trade Thread

[mhunt]

Maybe I'm overestimating the upgrade from Simmons to Lavine but I think it would take Maxey to get that done. I could probably do without the #28 pick for Rubio part of the trade...but it's not that unreasonable.

LaVine is 26 and on an expiring contract.

I wouldn't be throwing in Maxey or a pick. Ben has more value than you're giving him credit for, and LaVine plus a pick or player is probably the baseline Morey is using to give up Ben.

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27ppg & 42% on threes and they'd have to add a pick or player for Simmons? Agree to disagree on that one.
I hope Ben's value really is that high though.

[51X3RF4N]

Maybe I'm overestimating the upgrade from Simmons to Lavine but I think it would take Maxey to get that done. I could probably do without the #28 pick for Rubio part of the trade...but it's not that unreasonable.

LaVine is 26 and on an expiring contract.

I wouldn't be throwing in Maxey or a pick. Ben has more value than you're giving him credit for, and LaVine plus a pick or player is probably the baseline Morey is using to give up Ben.

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27ppg & 42% on threes and they'd have to add a pick or player for Simmons? Agree to disagree on that one.
I hope Ben's value really is that high though.

I mean, there is a bit of recency bias you're carrying, no?

You're using 2 stats...

Malcolm Brogdon and a 1st was reportedly turned down.

On his career, Brogdon is an 18ppg (per 36), 5.6 apg, 5rpg, 38.6% 3pt, 88.7% FT guy.

On his career, Lavine is a 22ppg (per 36), 4.3apg, 4.4 rpg, 38.5% 3pt, 82.4% FT guy.

There are a lot of factors, and my guess is Morey sees Lavine as above Brogdon by quite a bit, but that doesn't mean we send picks and young players instead of Chicago sending picks.

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[mhunt]

LaVine is 26 and on an expiring contract.

I wouldn't be throwing in Maxey or a pick. Ben has more value than you're giving him credit for, and LaVine plus a pick or player is probably the baseline Morey is using to give up Ben.

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27ppg & 42% on threes and they'd have to add a pick or player for Simmons? Agree to disagree on that one.
I hope Ben's value really is that high though.

I mean, there is a bit of recency bias you're carrying, no?

You're using 2 stats...

Malcolm Brogdon and a 1st was reportedly turned down.

On his career, Brogdon is an 18ppg (per 36), 5.6 apg, 5rpg, 38.6% 3pt, 88.7% FT guy.

On his career, Lavine is a 22ppg (per 36), 4.3apg, 4.4 rpg, 38.5% 3pt, 82.4% FT guy.

There are a lot of factors, and my guess is Morey sees Lavine as above Brogdon by quite a bit, but that doesn't mean we send picks and young players instead of Chicago sending picks.

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Lavine came into the league at 19 y/o while Brogdon was 24 y/o as a rookie..so looking at their career stats is a bit misleading, IMO.
If you look at the last 3 seasons, Lavine is 24.7, 26.4, & 28.2 per 36. Brogdon is 19.7, 19.3, 22.1. I think Brogdon has a bit more of an all-around game but Lavine is the superior scorer by quite a good margin.

Idk if the Indy "offer" was even an actual offer but I absolutely think it would take a lot more to get Lavine in a trade than it would Brogdon. We'll see.

[the_process]

If we trade Simmons for Ingram we just need to swap Tobias for Cj and we are set.

Cj
Curry
Green
Ingram
Embiid

And we keep our young players, hoping Maxey, Mathisse and Reed can be solid players next season.

Maybe we can get a decent defensive pf( using hill and Green contract) so we can slid Ingram to Sf.

Ingram is a true scorer. And he's always improving. I dont know why would Pelicans make the trade altough .

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Playing CJ and Curry together is death.

[BNelley24]

LaVine is 26 and on an expiring contract.

I wouldn't be throwing in Maxey or a pick. Ben has more value than you're giving him credit for, and LaVine plus a pick or player is probably the baseline Morey is using to give up Ben.

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27ppg & 42% on threes and they'd have to add a pick or player for Simmons? Agree to disagree on that one.
I hope Ben's value really is that high though.

I mean, there is a bit of recency bias you're carrying, no?

You're using 2 stats...

Malcolm Brogdon and a 1st was reportedly turned down.

On his career, Brogdon is an 18ppg (per 36), 5.6 apg, 5rpg, 38.6% 3pt, 88.7% FT guy.

On his career, Lavine is a 22ppg (per 36), 4.3apg, 4.4 rpg, 38.5% 3pt, 82.4% FT guy.

There are a lot of factors, and my guess is Morey sees Lavine as above Brogdon by quite a bit, but that doesn't mean we send picks and young players instead of Chicago sending picks.

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Trading Ben is going to be Morey's hardest career move. Such a weird spot. You actually believe Ben has more value than Lavine? I mean I guess team fit matters too, but if this was the case a trade would have happened by now. The issue is you have a max player whose value is so low and skills so unique there arent many places he could be traded for that would make sense for both teams. It HAS to be a 3-way deal because of this. I cannot envision any trade scenario involving Ben where a 3rd team isnt involved.

[cksdayoff]

overpay for lillard

[yuuby]

I don't think there is a single fanbase that is rational about trades. They always heavily slant them towards their team.

Minnesota fans on their board think that Rubio (washed), Beasley (jail), plus 2 picks is getting them Simmons.

Do they not realize that this year is the most pivotal of KAT's career (3rd year of 5 year contract). Next offseason he can make a trade request if they suck again with 2 years left on his deal (as Kyrie, Butler, and AD did).

They should be desperate for Simmons. They should sell high on Edwards and we should use Edwards in place of Simmons' in trades if other teams like Edwards more than Simmons.

For example trade Edwards to OKC for Shai or trade Edwards to WAS for Beal. Both of those teams have no interest in Simmons but would probably be more amenable to a 2nd year player who was the #1 overall pick and showed flashes.

[51X3RF4N]

Does Sacramento do the following? Does Philly?

Ben, Shake, Maxey, Hill....

For


Fox, Hield, Wright

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[Embiid-MVP]

Does Sacramento do the following? Does Philly?

Ben, Shake, Maxey, Hill....

For


Fox, Hield, Wright

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Was talking to my friend about this the other day. This is the trade I'd seek if we can't get the obvious guys like Lillard. Wonder if there's any way to keep Maxey out though. I'd be ok with adding another player and/or picks to Make up for taking him out of the deal. If he must go though I'd accept it eventually

[the_process]

Does Sacramento do the following? Does Philly?

Ben, Shake, Maxey, Hill....

For


Fox, Hield, Wright

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Ben and Tobias for Barnes, Hield, and Fox.

I would like that better.

[Tomjas]

If Minny offers Ant as part of a deal then I don’t see why we wouldn’t keep him as he’s got massive potential

Sick of giving away good players and watching them flourish elsewhere

[Tomjas]

Does Sacramento do the following? Does Philly?

Ben, Shake, Maxey, Hill....

For


Fox, Hield, Wright

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Ben and Tobias for Barnes, Hield, and Fox.

I would like that better.

The zero defence option

[the_process]

I don't think there is a single fanbase that is rational about trades. They always heavily slant them towards their team.

Minnesota fans on their board think that Rubio (washed), Beasley (jail), plus 2 picks is getting them Simmons.

Do they not realize that this year is the most pivotal of KAT's career (3rd year of 5 year contract). Next offseason he can make a trade request if they suck again with 2 years left on his deal (as Kyrie, Butler, and AD did).

They should be desperate for Simmons. They should sell high on Edwards and we should use Edwards in place of Simmons' in trades if other teams like Edwards more than Simmons.

For example trade Edwards to OKC for Shai or trade Edwards to WAS for Beal. Both of those teams have no interest in Simmons but would probably be more amenable to a 2nd year player who was the #1 overall pick and showed flashes.

The Athletic piece states Minny wants to build around KAT, DLo, and Edwards. The writer has been a mouthpiece for management there before.

A pile of future 1sts with a pupu platter of salary (Rubio, Culver, Hernangomez) is fine... as long as those picks can be flipped for Ingram or Beal or Shai. The other team that could possibly have something to offer for those picks is Toronto.

[yuuby]

The Athletic piece states Minny wants to build around KAT, DLo, and Edwards. The writer has been a mouthpiece for management there before.

A pile of future 1sts with a pupu platter of salary (Rubio, Culver, Hernangomez) is fine... as long as those picks can be flipped for Ingram or Beal or Shai. The other team that could possibly have something to offer for those picks is Toronto.

Jon Krawczynski can say whatever he wants but the Timberwolves don't have an avenue to getting Ben Simmons if they don't want to give up Edwards.

I don't even like Simmons but if I was a Minny fan I would be clamoring at the chance to sell high on Edwards. He is probably going to be an empty calorie chucker with a bad jump shot going forward. I would rather have Lamelo or even Haliburton over him if I was them.

They are not a serious organization if they think the status quo can last. They should just go ahead and trade KAT if they want to waste the next 3 years developing Edwards. He is a multi year project.

[the_process]

The Athletic piece states Minny wants to build around KAT, DLo, and Edwards. The writer has been a mouthpiece for management there before.

A pile of future 1sts with a pupu platter of salary (Rubio, Culver, Hernangomez) is fine... as long as those picks can be flipped for Ingram or Beal or Shai. The other team that could possibly have something to offer for those picks is Toronto.

Jon Krawczynski can say whatever he wants but the Timberwolves don't have an avenue to getting Ben Simmons if they don't want to give up Edwards.

I don't even like Simmons but if I was a Minny fan I would be clamoring at the chance to sell high on Edwards. He is probably going to be an empty calorie chucker with a bad jump shot going forward. I would rather have Lamelo or even Haliburton over him if I was them.

They are not a serious organization if they think the status quo can last. They should just go ahead and trade KAT if they want to waste the next 3 years developing Edwards. He is a multi year project.

It doesn't matter whether Minny trades Edwards or 3 unprotected future 1sts for Simmons. It simply matters as to what the Sixers can get for the package from Minnesota.

If the Sixers need Edwards as part of the package to get the player they want, then either Minny parts with him or they don't get Simmons.

Simmons may be better off leaving, but Morey of all people won't be selling low.

[Mik317]

teams aren't going to put their best deals on the table asap.

Edwards or Dlo might get added down the line for example.

[DCasey91]

I 100% do not want either lol.

Russell is how do say this politely.... average?

And Edwards for me is no bueno to kind of like Mitchell which a lot of people seem to rate. I don’t rate Mitchell that highly.

Luka Doncic/Brandon Ingram/Jalen Green or Holmgren/Banchero next year. These are my studs that I wish is on this team.

[Kobblehead]

Edwards is not that good, my guys.

[Tomjas]

Maxey is untouchable

Edwards isn’t that good

Come & get your hot takes

[Mik317]

this idea that you are going to get a perfect fit is stupid lol. Whoever we get back for Ben are going to have their own little flaws.